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[cypezokyli]

rawk you are new in the forum, and despite the differences or fights i had with kifeas , i can assure you that he is not this person you are reffering to.

you can make a search , and see if you can get on kifeas 1600 posts sth similar :

from the page you provided :

Costas Economides 21 March 2006 09:26
Rawk. I am a Greek ultra-nationalist and as such I believe that Cyprus is a Greek island.

Costas Economides 21 March 2006 06:38
I am pleased that you now have to slander me. You cannot match my words, no argument can match the power of EOKA!

Costas Economides 20 March 2006 16:11
Rawk. Unfortunately my best comments were deleted by the site administrator. They cannot handle the threat of EOKA as a liberating force, thus they mock. I can tell you the outcome of the Orams case; another victory for EOKA! I take pride in that they were not able to match my words and had to resort to childish mocking. I have claimed a victory for EOKA and I am laughing at the Orams.

Costas Economides 6 March 2006 14:59
I go to Church every Sunday. We are blessed by God. Our blessing will result in victory of the Orams case.

when you first came here, you didnt seem like someone who makes stereotypes of people. or try to compare or even degrate people you dont even know....thats what i thought..... now.... na ja.

some people thought that you were fresh air in this forum....
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btw, as a gc, this costas economides is absolutely out of his mind. and as he claims , he is an ultranationalist. as a concequence not a person to have a discussion with him..... or compare him with anyone else.

[rawk]

cypezokyli

Thank you for making that clear. I accept that Kifeas is not this Costas character, my apologies to him for drawing that mistaken conclusion.

rawk

[cypezokyli]

my apologies too... perhaps i was kind of hard on you....

sorry

[rawk]

cypezokyli

Perhaps you should come along for that drink as well in the Colony, mrfromng is buying!

rawk

[MR-from-NG]

Rawk, this is from the heart mate. Any of my GC friends on the forum would be most welcome. It would be a great evening.

[cypezokyli]

its not the first time that i ve been in the north for drinks with tcs friends.
i would be glad to join.

....despite the fact that mrfronmg has posted things sometimes that show not so much respect for peoples pain. and i repeat , not political views, but pain .

[MR-from-NG]

cypezokyli, please don't take it personal. My comments can be in the heat of the moment. I have nothing against GC's, they are human and I respect the human race.

Lets arrange a boys night out, I will be in Cyprus in May and back again in July or August.

[TheCabbie]

If they didn't want to be a guarantor anymore then they should have at least returned the bases to RoC.

How can you "return" what was never the RoC's in the first place?

The SBA has existed for exactly as long as the RoC.

[Piratis]

If they didn't want to be a guarantor anymore then they should have at least returned the bases to RoC.

How can you "return" what was never the RoC's in the first place?

The SBA has existed for exactly as long as the RoC.

It was part of the Treaty of Guarantee:

The Republic of Cyprus of the one part, and Greece, Turkey and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland of the other part,
I. Considering that the recognition and maintenance of the independence, territorial integrity and security of the Republic of Cyprus, as established and regulated by the Basic Articles of its Constitution, are in their common interest,

II. Desiring to co-operate to ensure respect for the state of affairs created by that Constitution,

Have agreed as follows:

Article I

The Republic of Cyprus undertakes to ensure the maintenance of its independence, territorial integrity and security, as well as respect for its Constitution.

It undertakes not to participate, in whole or in part, in any political or economic union with any State whatsoever. It accordingly declares prohibited any activity likely to promote, directly or indirectly, either union with any other State or partition of the Island.

Article II

Greece, Turkey and the United Kingdom, taking note of the undertakings of the Republic of Cyprus set out in Article I of the present Treaty, recognise and guarantee the independence, territorial integrity and security of the Republic of Cyprus, and also the state of affairs established by the Basic Articles of its Constitution.

Greece, Turkey and the United Kingdom likewise undertake to prohibit, so far as concerns them, any activity aimed at promoting, directly or indirectly, either union of Cyprus with any other State or partition of the Island.

Article III

The Republic of Cyprus, Greece and Turkey undertake to respect the integrity of the areas retained under United Kingdom sovereignty at the time of the establishment of the Republic of Cyprus, and guarantee the use and enjoyment by the United Kingdom of the rights to be secured to it by the Republic of Cyprus in accordance with the Treaty concerning the Establishment of the Republic of Cyprus signed at Nicosia on to-day's date.

Article IV

In the event of a breach of the provisions of the present Treaty, Greece, Turkey and the United Kingdom undertake to consult together with respect to the representations or measures necessary to ensure observance of those provisions.

In so far as common or concerted action may not prove possible, each the three guaranteeing Powers reserves the right to take action with the sole aim of re-establishing the state of affairs created by the present Treaty.

Article V

The present Treaty shall enter into force on the date of signature. The original texts of the present Treaty shall be deposited at Nicosia.

The High Contracting Parties shall proceed as soon as possible to the registration of the present Treaty with the Secretariat of the United Nations in accordance with Article 102 of the Charter of the United Nations.

But even if we leave the treaty out, the British bases are nothing more than remains of colonialism. Why should UK have sovergnity over any part of Cyprus?
With the same argument you could support that the whole Cyprus should remain under UK. Do you support colonialism?

[rawk]

If the Brits had had a handle on this situation back in 1974, rather than had a waste of space PM Edward Heath who dithered because IRA bombs were going off in London, andsent the troops in big time like the Falklands. the EOPKA Bs would have been rounded up for trials, UN soldiers sent into all areas with armoured support, Turkey warned off, Greek military sent packing and 32 years later, a united Cyprus in the EU and everybody hunky dory under the watchful eye of the Sovereign bases.

Colonialism? Maybe, but it sounds a lot better than the pile of poo you've got now.

rawk