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Britain and the Invasion

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Postby MR-from-NG » Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:31 pm

Why not do a google on the legality of the Turkish intervention and see for yourself.
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Postby lysi » Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:04 pm

The british government has always supported turkey and the turkish cypriots because thats what the usa government told the brits to do, it stems from the cold war because the usa has military bases in turkey and also because it seemed to the usa that the greek cypriots were being supported by the soviet union. Also the british used divide and rule tactics to keep there greedy hands on cyprus.
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Postby MR-from-NG » Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:34 pm

The question is "was the Turkish intervention legal or not" . forget your theories, your theories mean nothing.
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Postby NeverSayGoodbye » Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:37 pm

No it wasnt.It didnt protect the republic just divided it like the plan was all along.All you have to do is go read the UN resolutions.
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Postby MR-from-NG » Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:52 pm

It had no choice but to devide the island. Anything less would have been the end of every single TC.

In case you have not been told by your parents, teachers and priests back in 63 your elders had this crazy desire to unite with Greece, it is commonly known as ENOSIS. The sittuation you are in now is a direct result of your elders desir for ENOSIS. Blame them and not all those that disagree with you.
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Postby NeverSayGoodbye » Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:40 pm

Do you hear people wanting ENOSIS today?If that is the only reason for the invasion why dont they pick it all up and leave?
The turkish invasion was preplanned before 1960 and then was put foward with the help of its T.M.T buddies in Cyprus.First Turkish attacks in Cyprus happened in 1963 turkish air force bombed civilians.Maybe if i was living back then i would of wanted ENOSIS as well.
Talks like these become a vicious circle.Were crimes done against both communites? Yes
Maybe if you took that turkish flag down from Penataktulos with the "Proud to be turkish......."
Maybe if you made fasicts groups as the Grey wolves illegal.
Maybe if you tell us were the missing went.
Maybe if you stop bringing here turkish colonoist.
Maybe if you stop stealing then selling the islands heritage
Maybe if you stop selling reugees properties.
Then maybe you can actually convince yourselves that it was a peaceful operation after all.
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Postby Piratis » Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:04 pm

It had no choice but to devide the island. Anything less would have been the end of every single TC.

My friend in 1974 no single TC had died until the Turks decided to start their criminal invasion and murder 6000 GCs and ethnically cleanse 200.000!

The invasion was illegal, the occupation is illegal, the pseudo state of "trnc" is illegal.

What is legal in Cyprus is one and only state, the Republic of Cyprus, part of which is illegally occupied by Turkey.

This is a fact that only Turkey denies since Turkey is the only country to recognise the pseudo puppet state of "trnc".

Here is the Treaty of Guarantee:

The Republic of Cyprus of the one part, and Greece, Turkey and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland of the other part,
I. Considering that the recognition and maintenance of the independence, territorial integrity and security of the Republic of Cyprus, as established and regulated by the Basic Articles of its Constitution, are in their common interest,

II. Desiring to co-operate to ensure respect for the state of affairs created by that Constitution,

Have agreed as follows:

Article I

The Republic of Cyprus undertakes to ensure the maintenance of its independence, territorial integrity and security, as well as respect for its Constitution.

It undertakes not to participate, in whole or in part, in any political or economic union with any State whatsoever. It accordingly declares prohibited any activity likely to promote, directly or indirectly, either union with any other State or partition of the Island.

Article II

Greece, Turkey and the United Kingdom, taking note of the undertakings of the Republic of Cyprus set out in Article I of the present Treaty, recognise and guarantee the independence, territorial integrity and security of the Republic of Cyprus, and also the state of affairs established by the Basic Articles of its Constitution.

Greece, Turkey and the United Kingdom likewise undertake to prohibit, so far as concerns them, any activity aimed at promoting, directly or indirectly, either union of Cyprus with any other State or partition of the Island.

Article III

The Republic of Cyprus, Greece and Turkey undertake to respect the integrity of the areas retained under United Kingdom sovereignty at the time of the establishment of the Republic of Cyprus, and guarantee the use and enjoyment by the United Kingdom of the rights to be secured to it by the Republic of Cyprus in accordance with the Treaty concerning the Establishment of the Republic of Cyprus signed at Nicosia on to-day's date.

Article IV

In the event of a breach of the provisions of the present Treaty, Greece, Turkey and the United Kingdom undertake to consult together with respect to the representations or measures necessary to ensure observance of those provisions.

In so far as common or concerted action may not prove possible, each the three guaranteeing Powers reserves the right to take action with the sole aim of re-establishing the state of affairs created by the present Treaty.


Article V

The present Treaty shall enter into force on the date of signature. The original texts of the present Treaty shall be deposited at Nicosia.

The High Contracting Parties shall proceed as soon as possible to the registration of the present Treaty with the Secretariat of the United Nations in accordance with Article 102 of the Charter of the United Nations.
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Postby MR-from-NG » Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:25 pm

You have to be from a different planet if you believe that no TC was killed in 74. Two of my closest friends were killed by the golf course in Nicosia you lying sad Greek. Or maybe, just maybe you are trying to wind me up. I will not bother with such people.
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Postby Kifeas » Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:31 pm

mrfromng wrote:The question is "was the Turkish intervention legal or not" . forget your theories, your theories mean nothing.


No my friend, it was not legal!

But since you play the international law expert, can you tell me which is the ultimate international law document that overrules and regulates international law, i.e. it serves as the international law constitution, and everything else falls under its cloak?
Do you know?
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Postby bones » Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:03 pm

I was based here in the UN in 1970, never at that time had any idea what was going to happen.
Now i look at the island split in 2 and am sometimes sad at the outcome, the ilsand has been invaded by many people over a lot of years, what happened in 1974 was wrong, had it not happened what would we have here now? no one will ever know.
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