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Those that buy GC property in occupied Cyprus are criminals

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby retired2cyprus » Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:17 pm

Niki2410 wrote:As a potential buyer in Cyprus (moving in 2007) I have very quickly come to the decision that even though North Cyprus is a lot cheaper than South Cyprus I would in no way wish to buy a property there because of the history.

It is possible however that North Cyprus buyers do this out of ignorance rather than greed as the property agents are very 'hard sell'.

As far as the buyers are concerned they are getting a fantastic house for less money. Immoral to the poor Cypriots who have been turfed out but understandable - we are all human. It is not about deliberate provokation.

I only know of the problems after extensive research on the web. They wouldn't exactly have big banners saying "evil people buy homes in North Cyprus' at the overseas home exhibitions in the UK or in the property magazines.


can you be sure the property or land you buy in the south was not owned by a turkish cyprioy forced to flee to the north ??
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Postby growuptcs » Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:40 pm

retired2cyprus come on tcs were forced out now, when will you ever stop throwing it. just flush it so it wont stink up.
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Postby Piratis » Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:54 pm

can you be sure the property or land you buy in the south was not owned by a turkish cyprioy forced to flee to the north ??


Yes, you can be 100% sure. TC land might be temporarily used to house the 200.000 GC refugees that were forced out of their own homes by the Turkish invaders, but they are not sold to foreigners. The refugees don't even have the title deeds for those properties that are now forced to use since the Turkish army doesn't allow them to return to their own.

There is nothing to fear. All your investments are legal and secure. Which planet are we living on for heavens sake? Buy your house in the north and live happily ever after, in peace.


Peace? Maybe some of these criminals will manage to get away with their crimes if they are old enough and die soon. However one thing we promise that those criminals will not have is peace.
By committing crimes against us they have declared war on us. Currently their names and info are collected and we will fight them back. So the one thing they can forget if they "buy" GC property in the occupied areas is peace.
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Postby rotate » Tue Mar 21, 2006 1:26 am

Piratis wrote:Peace? Maybe some of these criminals will manage to get away with their crimes if they are old enough and die soon. However one thing we promise that those criminals will not have is peace


Unfortunately you may not find any 'peace' if you (Cypriot or foreigner) legally buy GC property in the RoC either. A corrupt police force and municipality employees on the take can soon put paid to any ideas that you may have of 'peace'.

As for buying property in the North you have to be a 'no brain' to do it. My hope is that a European is stupid enough to 'buy' our property so that we could at least have the satisfaction of seeking redress through the courts for that which was lost. It's not only GC and TC names that are to be found on pre 74 RoC Land Title Deeds for Northern Cyprus properties, theres a fair few registered in Anglo Saxon names as well. No prospective buyer should fool themselves that what they are doing is in anyway legal as the Title Deed holder at the time of the invasion/occupation is the only legal owner of the property, no matter if they were forced from their property or not!
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Postby Lala_Mustafa_Pasha » Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:30 am

:lol:

Quick guys, you can come and buy a house if you want, well it seems like you dont recognise us, hmmm these Britts with alot of Money do, there welcome to come and live among people they respect and recognise.

Its a matter for us and people who recognise us.

Houses? What houses? Where? We dont exist apparently, I guess we must exist hey guys :wink:
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Postby retired2cyprus » Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:33 am

if its illegal to buy property in the north as it "may" have been Greek does that mean it is legal to buy property in the south that "was" owened by turkish cypriots?
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Postby Strahd » Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:48 am

retired2cyprus wrote:if its illegal to buy property in the north as it "may" have been Greek does that mean it is legal to buy property in the south that "was" owened by turkish cypriots?


Yes it is illegal and those who try to do this will be prosecuted because those property STILL BELONG TO THE TCs WHO OWNED IT BEFORE THE TURKISH ARMY MOVED THEM TO THE OCCUPIED AREAS.

Not a single of these houses-lands you are refering too has been sold to foreigners or private individuals. It is ALL RECORDED and NOT FOR SALE. Some TC property has been given to refugees but not sold to them, they do not hold titles, as a TEMPORARY MEASURE UNTIL THEY CAN GO BACK TO THEIR HOMES. There are some pecies of land that belonged to TCs and have been exploited for COMMUNITY WORKS (e.g. airport, hospitals, roads and highways), the TC owners will get the compensation as by the law.
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Postby cypezokyli » Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:59 am

retired2cyprus:

if its illegal to buy property in the north as it "may" have been Greek does that mean it is legal to buy property in the south that "was" owened by turkish cypriots?


my foreigner friend , do you realise that your above statement is provoking ?

my opinion is that you realise that, and that you do it on purpose knowing that you can get people so angry and then they say stupid things.

you do not have a clue what you are talking about. there is no "may" "belonged" to a gc or a tc. these things were documented by the british (and i assume you trust their work :wink: )
are you saying to me, that my granfather "may" have lived in the north. so there is a possibility that he grew up in honoloulou and all these years they were lying to me that they used to live in the north ?
do you realise what you are saying ?


second , u cannot buy tc land in the south. why dont you try ?

third , it is amazing , that the tcs - even those who have personally suffered from our sides wrong doings , never and let me repeat NEVER , have shown such disrespect to the pain of refugees , irrespective of what they believe to be better as a solution for the cyprus problem. and you know why that is the case ? bc they suffered themselves... unlike you.

if i am not mistaken, the orams case started not so much that a gc found a british buying his property , but bc he was faced with such an attitude .

do you know that there were case that an old tc spoke in the north greek with a couple of gc and foreigners and a british came out shouting : turkish , turkish , no greek here!!
he was practically demanding from a tc to change the language he communicated with some people!!!

in short, you have made a cheap investement with high risk. u can put pressure on wherever you want , but if respect to peoples pain is not in your vocabulary then better choose silence.
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contact the greedy estate agents

Postby lysi » Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:09 am

I ask again for those who are against the sale and expliotation of greek land and property to contact these greedy british and north cyprus based estate agents to protest at there sale of stolen greek cypriot land and property.
Dont just sit and do nothing you can phone or write or email these crooks.
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Postby bakala » Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:38 pm

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Please Note

Don’t generalise by assuming that every villa built in the north is on ex Greek Land,
Greek Cypriots didn’t own all the land, you forget that the plan to kick all the Turkish Cypriots off the Island and own all the Island didn’t work because of a little event called the Turkish Landings ,

That’s when half the Island was taken over and turned into the TRNC, someone keeps referring to the spoils of war and possession being 99% of the law ,
There was also a reference to “any war is a gamble and no one wins in a war, “
It would appear that the greek Cypriots lost and the Turkish Cypriots won, and that’s today’s reality

Anyway I Digress.

I can buy a two bedroom apartment in Paphos for £100.000,
Or a 3 bedroom Villa with pool for the same in Kyrenia,
I have every confidence in the TRNC being recognised, and some sort of settlement regarding the land issue for those that did buy ex Greek land.
In fact I am so confident I aw willing to bet £100.000 on it.



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