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[Bananiot]

Piratis, I did not say that Afxentiou was not an idealist. I said that Afxentiou was not "idealistic" as someone suggested in this forum. By the way, what do you mean when you say that Afxentiou was an idealist? Does it mean you can use all available means to promote your cause, at any cost? Should we be proud of our idealist heroes?

[Piratis]

Piratis, I did not say that Afxentiou was not an idealist. I said that Afxentiou was not "idealistic"

Ok, so you were correcting his grammar or what?

Does it mean you can use all available means to promote your cause, at any cost? Should we be proud of our idealist heroes?

When there is democracy there is only one way to promote your cause: your vote. This is the ideal way, and if we had this option before 1955 there wouldn't be the need for EOKA.

Unfortunately before 1960 the colonialists applied their will on us by force. The cause of enosis was not just the cause of Afxentiou, it was the cause of the majority of Cypriots.

Therefore I believe that when some foreigners want to impose their will on us, and restrict us from our 100% rightful demands (according to the UN), then we have the right to react in a similar violent way. (I didn't say is the best way, I said we had the right to react in this way).

So yes, we should be proud to our idealist heros, because they are the parts of our history that will remind some others that for us ideals such as freedom and democracy worth every cost and we will never give them up.

[MicAtCyp]

Bananiot,
Sometimes you make me feel like I am attacking a very old person, who just lives with his memories. You are kind, but simply, we cannot communicate. I beleive you base all your thinking on vague impressions.
In this respect then yes I feel guilty for attacking you.
You may say whatever you beleive, I will not debate it anymore. Just know that I disagree with many of your writtings.

Best Regards

[Bananiot]

Funny, but I never felt I was being attacked. All I do is express my viwes in a public forum. Sometimes it gets hilariously funny with some responses and I have a lot of fun. For example, I am greatful to Piratis because he makes me lough a lot with his way of thinking, despite the fact that I disagree with him almost totally. I say this in a nice way, not meaning to downgrade him. His one-track mind absolutely amazes me and his simplistic way of dealing with very complicated issues is out of this world. On the other hand, there is a handful of really decent TC users who behave in an impaccable manner and with whom, if ever we were given a chance, we could solve the Cyprus issue in a matter of some hours, I am sure. Yet, you decide, all of a sudden, to shift the debate on a pure personal basis. I hold no hard feelings towards you and if ever you decide to revert to your old self this would please me a lot. If not, again, it does not really matter. Life is too short to be spent on petty arguments.

[Piratis]

All I do is express my viwes in a public forum.

What views????? You mean the personal attacks and mad throwing? Because other than these, you express nothing else.

not meaning to downgrade him

Don't worry. You wouldn't be able to downgrade me even if you wanted.

[brother]

NOW IS THAT NOT NICE WE ARE TURNING INTO A FAMILY HERE , WHEN WE START TO FEEL LIKE THE ABOVE MENTIONED CHAT.

BUT PIRATIS MY FRIEND YOU DO LOOK FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO DIVE INTO THE PAST AND PROVE HOW BAD THE TURKS ARE, MAYBE YOU COULD GET SOME HELP FOR THAT CONDITION I CALL TURKOPHOBIA.

[Piratis]

Where do you see "Turkophobia"???

Do you see me being afraid of Turks?? If I was, I would accept to do whatever they order, and I wouldn't ask to veto them. Some others are afraid of Turks, not me.

[brother]

PIRATIS THAT WAS MEANT TO BE A JOKE

[Bananiot]

THE UNITED Nations Office for Project Services (UNOPS) yesterday joined the fray over foreign funding in Cyprus, noting its concern in particular about the “misrepresentation of facts” in the Cypriot media and personal attacks on “peace-builders” in society.

In an unusually strongly worded statement, UNOPS sought to end speculation over apparent grey areas in the funding of bicommunal programmes on the island.

“UNOPS is very concerned about the misrepresentation of facts that has recently appeared in the Cypriot media about the Bicommunal Development Programme and its funding practices, as well as about the civil society representatives and non-governmental organisations that the Programme has supported over the years,” said the statement.

The UN body made specific reference to the increasingly negative press associated with people receiving funds to work on bicommunal projects to enhance understanding and contacts between the two communities.

“In particular, UNOPS deplores the personal attacks on individuals and organisations from civil society who have worked so hard over many years to build bridges between the two communities and to establish peaceful relationships amongst Cypriots of all backgrounds in the context of longstanding efforts to achieve a peace settlement on the island.”

Regarding general criticism by the government that it has been left in the dark over funding in Cyprus, UNOPS stated that all updated information on bicommunal activities was submitted to the relevant authorities through the Cyprus Red Cross Society on October 27. Information on all activities funded under the Programme from 1998 to September 30 2004 can be accessed on the UNOPS website at www.unopspmu.org/projects.htm.

Meanwhile, President Tassos Papadopoulos made it clear that the government would not be ordering a public inquiry into the funding saga as he left for Brussels yesterday to participate in an EU summit.

Responding to a question on the proposal by the island's opposition to conduct an investigation in connection with US funds spent in Cyprus before the April referendum on the Annan plan, he said no investigation would be able to reveal what had really happened.

''The only ones who know who took money, not for bi-communal programmes but in particular for the referendum are the ones who took this money and the ones who gave it'', he said.

The US through USAID and the United Nations Development Programme funded bicommunal projects on the island through UNOPS.

Cyprus Mail

[brother]

interesting