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[pumpernickle]

all this talk of lining up cypriot men is making me nervous, and rather ill.

Please, keep the sick inuendoes to the joke section.

[cypezokyli]

I didn't have time to read the whole thread but one quick reply to cypezokyli.

Have you taken any linguistic courses cypezokyli? I did. And believe me, language is a living thing, it never stays the same.

In Cyprus we speak Greek for more than 3000 years, and our culture is predominately Greek. If you go to Greek islands like Crete, Rhodos etc, you will notice that they also speak a different dialect, which in fact is closer to the Cypriot dialect than the one of mainland Greece.

There is no reason to try to fake history to make Greek Cypriots less Greek than any other Greek. This is stupid.

What is wise is to understand that people with different language, culture etc can live together peacefully without any kind of discrimination. We don't have to make everybody the same "plain Cypriot" to have peace. In fact our diversity and our differences can enrich our island and they shouldn't be used as an excuse for conflict.

piratis, i do not deny, the greek origins of the gc dialect. i think i have posted that already.

i have stated a very simple question, and i expect a very simple answer. i didnot ask for a history class.

i agree that language is a living thing. if u read my post, u will see that i said that the language has evolved.
i am not going to repeat again what i wrote, bc it is tiring.
go back to my previous post and read it again.

[Alexis]

Incorrect.

The moderator has used th Present Simple tense. Which means that he is saying greeks generally as a matter of course, speak greek for 3,000 years....thus implying that after the 3,000 years is done, the greeks will presumably stop speaking bubble and start waffling in some other inane langauge no one can understand.

all the while, Greeks from Greece will be saying: "well i couldnt fackin understand what they were saying before, never mind now, the peasants."

You obviously did not read Piratis' mail carefully.
Try once more:

In Cyprus we speak Greek for more than 3000 years

You will spot the words: 'more than', implying that the Cypriots speak Greek for more than 3000 with no explicit indication of when or whether they will stop doing so. So while Piratis' has made the mistake of using the 'Present Simple tense' as you put it, your interpretation is incorrect.

[Michael]

all this talk of lining up cypriot men is making me nervous, and rather ill.

Please, keep the sick inuendoes to the joke section.

I bet it’s making you sick, sick with delight that old Mohammed, and Ali, and Pasha are only an illegal crossing away.

[pumpernickle]

Incorrect.

The moderator has used th Present Simple tense. Which means that he is saying greeks generally as a matter of course, speak greek for 3,000 years....thus implying that after the 3,000 years is done, the greeks will presumably stop speaking bubble and start waffling in some other inane langauge no one can understand.

all the while, Greeks from Greece will be saying: "well i couldnt fackin understand what they were saying before, never mind now, the peasants."

You obviously did not read Piratis' mail carefully.
Try once more:

In Cyprus we speak Greek for more than 3000 years

You will spot the words: 'more than', implying that the Cypriots speak Greek for more than 3000 with no explicit indication of when or whether they will stop doing so. So while Piratis' has made the mistake of using the 'Present Simple tense' as you put it, your interpretation is incorrect.

Still incorrect, and your point is rendered irrelevant.

to say more than 3,000 years is clearly not an indication of...3,000 and beyond till infinity and the end of the universe and Newton's and Einstein's laws as we know it.
No, I'm afraid the inference is that the time span is 3,000 years or a little way past this, but not an incredible amount more. Otherwise, why provide the figure of 3,000 years.

Go back to school, and don't leave until you get what is called a 'qualification'.

[Michael]

Oh bloody hell, he’s right. Now move on!

[Simon]

Pasha said:

It seems no-one else apart from pumpernickle and cypezokyli will stand up to the ultra-nationalism of the chucklebrothers "Michael & Simon" on this forum

OK, so if your going to label me could you please give me a definition on what a 'ultra-nationalist' is and then describe how I fit into this definition.

All I do is promote the rule of law, democracy and human rights. What you seem to promote and others who support your views is violations of human rights, ethnic cleansing, occupation and mass theft - to create your pathetic little 'state.'

Oh and in the words of one GC who you have named above, "there is a limit to what we can demand because we lost a war." Is that what you call standing up to nationalism? I bet you just loved that quote. So a message to all GCs, we have lost the war, so we must forget about it until the tide turns. When we are powerful enough, we strike back!

By the way, for anyone who is a bit slow, I'm being ironic.

[Pasha]

etc etc etc.....

Did you exhaust your vocabulary at that point?

You liberals are very dour lot!

"It's a shame that your face turned out this way."

Michael like I said, give up mate. It's funny how you resort to personal attacks, but it has to be said your ability to debate scores a zero.

[cypezokyli]

1. there is a reason why greece signed not to demand instabul back.
2. yesterday i thought you posted sth with some sense. today you are back with the same things all over again.

who was the one that said yesterday in another thread ?

I do not believe that all refugees can or would even want to return.

why would that be ?
why are YOU putting a limit on what we can demand?
why are YOU putting a limit on the human rights of some refugges?

and then YOU say

in the words of one GC who you have named above, there is a limit to what we can demand because we lost a war.

paradox ?


3. i have never said "till the tide turns". that is for those who wait for the balance of power to change. my point of view is that WE turn the tide, by sitting on the negotiating table.

[Pasha]

All I do is promote the rule of law, democracy and human rights. What you seem to promote and others who support your views is violations of human rights, ethnic cleansing, occupation and mass theft - to create your pathetic little 'state.'

No Simon, you don't.

You only promote it when it suits you, and when it doesn't, well, it gets swept under the carpet.