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Postby eleftheria » Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:53 pm

unlucky, cto losers!

very good. But of course, all this means the end for tourism in the south! (if you believe greek economists)


Nice to see that ur remotely concerned (not!) about Cyprus Tourism in the south...

It is actually quite a major issue as tourism in the north could have a potential impact on tourism in the south...not just for hotels and resorts but for restaurants, bars...hospitality in general.

You need to look at the bigger picture and just look at how important the hospitality industry is to Cyprus the economy and the number of people that work in the industry in CY...beeing a hospitality graduate myself people not seeing the importance of the issue really irritates me!!! :x
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Postby lysi » Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:26 pm

Those that do not agree with the promotion of tourism to the occupied north of cyprus should email or phone thomson or any other travel company to complain .
How many of you anti occupation forum members will do this ?
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Postby cypezokyli » Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:47 pm

eleftheria wrote:
unlucky, cto losers!

very good. But of course, all this means the end for tourism in the south! (if you believe greek economists)


Nice to see that ur remotely concerned (not!) about Cyprus Tourism in the south...

It is actually quite a major issue as tourism in the north could have a potential impact on tourism in the south...not just for hotels and resorts but for restaurants, bars...hospitality in general.

You need to look at the bigger picture and just look at how important the hospitality industry is to Cyprus the economy and the number of people that work in the industry in CY...beeing a hospitality graduate myself people not seeing the importance of the issue really irritates me!!! :x


i ve never heard the term "hospitality industry" eleftheria. could you explain?
the reason, that we did that is, I hope, not bc that will have an effect on "our" tourism, but strictly for political reasons. bc we are not supposed to think in terms of "ours" and "theirs", if we are after a solution..
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Postby eleftheria » Mon Mar 06, 2006 3:05 pm

The Hospitality Industry basically includes tourism, hotels, restaurants, bars, things like the day trip boats u get and scuba diving (adventure tourism) these kinds of businesses that could essentially be effected...and as it says in the english dictioanary under hospitality, "friendliness in welcoming strangers or guests". I hope that explains it a bit more for u...
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Postby cypezokyli » Mon Mar 06, 2006 3:11 pm

thanks eleftheria..

do you think that the fall in the tourism industry revenues, is bc of the north, or bc of our own mistakes ?
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Postby eleftheria » Mon Mar 06, 2006 3:28 pm

A combination of many factors including our own mistakes and the increase in competition from a cost perspective and options for the holiday maker to choose as a destination which could include the north...eg of one contributory factor:


Bucking the tourism trend
By Jacqueline Theodoulou The Cyprus Mail
(archive article - Tuesday, February 7, 2006)

A sore point holding the development of Cypriot tourism back, said Photiou, is the operation of casinos in northern Cyprus: “£30-40million a year is being spent in illegally operating casinos of the north,” he said.

Photiou informed the Committee that the occupied areas accepted around 566,000 tourists a year; 450,000 of them come from Turkey and 116,000 of them are British.
“Tourists come to unoccupied Cyprus and go on day trips to the Turkish Cypriot side. Some even stay overnight. There has been an increase in excursions to the north in the past year.”
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Postby Michael » Mon Mar 06, 2006 3:46 pm

pumpernickle wrote:I dont thik trying to get the yanks to travel 4,000 miles to a med island is a good idea. They prefer mexico or the caribbean. you know what yanks are like. If it means having to get a passport, they have an aneurism brought on by a fear of adopting anti-patriotic sentiments....

the idea of a yank leaving his back yard is still considered communist out there.

unless it's to jump in the nearest mig and flatten some dust bowl in the middle east. gotta use up them past-sell-by-date missilies and rockets some how.

Would you leave a pack of sausages in the fridge to rot if they have a day left on the packaging, and they are just waiting to get sizzled in the pan and munched.

extra ketchup and chips please. Mmmmmmm.


Are you up to your old tricks? If you are, then don’t run to mummy when your “mocked”.
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Postby NeverSayGoodbye » Mon Mar 06, 2006 4:27 pm

Your hate for Greeks is very obvious pumkin not for your comments on CTO but other messages.Who are you anyway?
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Postby NeverSayGoodbye » Mon Mar 06, 2006 4:30 pm

Dont get me wrong i find some of them hilarious but the hell are you doing in Larnaca?? Wouldnt it be better to move to the more civilized north??
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Postby paaul12 » Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:48 pm

01/03/2006
www.financialmirror.com

New gov’t taxes “a serious blow”
Passengers to foot the bill

Foreign airlines are ready to chop their Cyprus routes that could deal a serious blow to tourism arrivals, following the government’s unilateral decision to hike airport taxes and fees when the new operator takes over in June.
Some airline companies, which have consistently provided Cyprus with the majority of well-spending tourists, are seriously considering whether to reduce their flights to Cyprus, or cut them altogether and divert their traffic to other neighbouring destinations.
The concerns arose after the Ministry of Communications held a two-day briefing with all airlines operating in Cyprus and presented them with a fait accompli of new and higher fees that will be levied as of June 1 and until the island’s new airports start operating by 2010.
"We are very concerned," said one airline representative who had been to the January 19-21 meetings of airport users with the Ministry officials told the Financial Mirror.
"We estimate a 140% increase in our costs from the day the new operator will take over," the representative said, adding that the authorities renewed their rental of facilities and office space at the airport from the end of December, when the previous contracts expired, to June only, beyond which there is no indication of what will happen.
"Which airline can properly plan its future operations this way?" was the question raised by several airline officials, who concluded that there were only three options left for them -- reduce flights to Cyprus, avoid Cyprus altogether or raise ticket costs once again.
The increases are expected to be absorbed into the ticket price of each airline, which will naturally see a dramatic increase.

Major hike

During the briefing between Ministry of Communications and airlines, the government verbally informed airline representatives that airport fees and charges would be gradually hiked.
The increases will not be incorporated into the airport tax, which for political reasons and in an effort not to infuriate the public, will only be hiked from CYP 9 per person to CYP 10.5 per head.
Some of the increases include:
* Ground handling fees rising from CYP 400 to CYP 1200.
* Fire department fees for both incoming and outgoing flights charged at 25 cents per passenger at Larnaca airport and 35 cents per passenger at Paphos airport.
* Security charge per passenger starting at 67c per head from May climbing eventually to CYP 1 per head, charged for both incoming and outgoing flights.
* Excess Fuel charge of 0.005c per litre. Most of this hit is expected to affect Cyprus Airways since foreign airlines use Cyprus airports only to top up fuel tanks.
* Landing fees, based on separate legislation already voted through are set to rise by 18% from November 1, 2006.
A spokesman from Hermes Consortium who won the BOT contract refused to comment on the proposed fee increases and said that until the official handover date, sometime in early April, such issues concern the government and not the consortium.

Protest

The only body that is competent to speak on behalf of the airlines is the Board of Airline Companies in Cyprus (BARIC), which is headed by a senior member of the Cyprus Airways management team.
Ironically, representing the government in the aforementioned talks was Lazaros Savvides, Director General of the Ministry of Communications who also wears another hat, that of Chairman of the troubled national carrier.
This explains the unusual silence of the majority state-owned Cyprus Airways, that seems to be unconcerned with these critical developments and is most exposed to the fee increases, with some analysts putting the additional annual charge at CYP 7 mln.
The survival of the Cyprus operations of most airlines is now in jeopardy.
"Do they (the government) realise the repercussions of their actions? We need to know the service levels we will receive from the new airport operator, something we have not yet been informed about," added another airline spokesperson, who concluded that some colleagues were already contemplating slashing the number of flights to Cyprus this summer.

Tourism threat

The island’s tourism industry may also feel an unwarranted squeeze if the same charges now planned for the scheduled airlines are also applied to the charter flights bringing a large part of the 2.5 mln annual tourists to the island.
A charter flight operator contacted by the Financial Mirror said they had not been invited to the meeting with the Ministry of Communications but acknowledged that he was aware “that charges would be hiked.”
The officer whose company handles many charter flights said either the government, through the Cyprus Tourism Organisation, will subsidise the charter airlines, or risk a flight to cheaper destinations, mostly Turkey.
During the Gulf war, the CTO was subsidising the cost of the insurance surcharge imposed on Cyprus flights to reduce the impact on charter flights, very sensitive to price changes, but following EU accession, such a subsidy would likely be blocked by Brussels as unfair advantage against the scheduled flight operators.
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