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[bakala]

Piratis
seems a bit unfair that Turkey should be criticised for " stealing" a third of Cyprus when everyone knows that greece tried to steal all of it . make a well known saying using these words " pot kettle black "

greece will continue to cry about the Turkish troops occupying half of " their " island. but hang on a minute are we talking about the independant island of Cyprus or a part of greater greece ?

i also notice you didnt answer when i asked what would have happend if the 74 coup had suceeded. or is it that you dont want to answer ?

also lets not forget that every island in the mediteraenian has graveyards from WW2, those graves contain the remains of my countries soldiers who died so that you wouldnt end up as part of greater germany or greater italy
My country paid the price when it stood alone against the Axis to make sure you are free today to speak as you do

Your suggestion that the Turkish Cypriots should be ethnicly cleansed from Cyprus and returned to Turkey shows you to be a moderate minded fair sort of guy who everyone could trust to be fair
By the way exactly how do you define a turkish Cypriot ?
is it someone who is different to you and therefore has no right to live.
or is it the thousands of Cypriots who follow islam ?
and when you suggest ethnicly cleansing the turkish Cypriots are you including the women and children too ?

You could be a very dangerous guy Piratis if anyone took any notice of you

[Piratis]

Cyprus population is made up by 82% Greeks.

The British Colonialists, exploited Cyprus in the way they did with India and all other of their colonies.

According to the resolution 1541 ( http://daccess-ods.un.org/access.nsf/Ge ... ES/1541(XV)&Lang=E ) of the UN about decolonization, the areas liberated from colonialists should have these available options: 1)free association with an independent State, 2) integration into an independent State, 3) Independence

The choice among any of the 3 should be given to the people with democratic procedures.

So if the great majority of Cypriots wanted to be part of Greece, like Crete, Rhodos Myconos etc are, then you British should have no say about it. It was our 100% right.

Even so Greek Cypriots made the compromise for a separate independent state in Cyprus.

also lets not forget that every island in the mediteraenian has graveyards from WW2, those graves contain the remains of my countries soldiers who died so that you wouldnt end up as part of greater germany or greater italy
My country paid the price when it stood alone against the Axis to make sure you are free today to speak as you do

Oh please. The Germans never came to Cyprus. Greeks and Cypriots fought against the Nazis as well. But now it turnes out that the British were no better than the Nazis and they support the Turk nazi occupation of Cyprus.

Just like the Nazis had invaded and occupied Czechoslovakia with the excuse of protecting the German minority there, the modern day Nazis use the same excuse to occupy part of the independent and sovereign Republic of Cyprus.

i also notice you didnt answer when i asked what would have happend if the 74 coup had suceeded. or is it that you dont want to answer ?

We were fighting against the coup and we would not allow it to succeed. What you are saying is that if somebody is sick with flu we should cut his head so he will not have flue any more

Your suggestion that the Turkish Cypriots should be ethnicly cleansed from Cyprus and returned to Turkey shows you to be a moderate minded fair sort of guy who everyone could trust to be fair

Where did I make this suggestion. Isn't it you who claim that ethnic cleansing can be a solution and a way to peace? All I am saying is that if you (and Turks) insist that ethnic cleansing is the solution then maybe it is you that should be ethnically cleansed.

is it someone who is different to you and therefore has no right to live.
or is it the thousands of Cypriots who follow islam ?
and when you suggest ethnicly cleansing the turkish Cypriots are you including the women and children too ?

You are a sick racist.

What I support: Human and democratic and legal rights FOR ALL.

Now do YOU continue to insist on racism, ethnic cleansing, illegalities and human rights violations? YES or NO?

You could be a very dangerous guy Piratis if anyone took any notice of you

I am very dangerous to people like you. Make no mistake about it. I hate racist criminals of your kind. They make me sick. An advice to you is that if you go ahead and become criminal by buying the properties that were stolen from us in the occupied part of our country, that you should never dare to cross in the free areas. If you do you will receive what you gave to us in kind.

[bakala]

Sorry Piratis you were the first to make the reference to ethnic cleansing
the good thing about this forum is you cant change your mind about what you say
this is cut and pasted from your previous post , your words not mine

if ethnic cleansing is the way for peace, then how about ethnically cleansing all the TCs for Cyprus and sending them to Turkey?
Then we would again have peace and we would even have a sea separating us which should be even more secure. What do you think?

You also forget that the reason the axis powers never touched Cyprus was because UK soldiers stopped them just like we did in North Africa Malta and Gibralter
When britain gave Cyprus its independance it was on the condition that it remained for all time independant

When Creete was overun british soldiers died in thier thousands to keep it free not for Britain but for Greece

[Piratis]

if ethnic cleansing is the way for peace, then how about ethnically cleansing all the TCs for Cyprus and sending them to Turkey?
Then we would again have peace and we would even have a sea separating us which should be even more secure. What do you think?

Exactly. This is the answer to all those that support that ethnic cleansing is the way for peace. I have never supported that ethnic cleansing is the way for peace. I support human, legal and democratic rights for all.

Do you support the ethnic cleansing of Greek Cypriots form the land of their ancestors? Do you disagree that legality should be restored and all people be allowed to return to their homes with all their legal, human and democratic rights?

You also forget that the reason the axis powers never touched Cyprus was because UK soldiers stopped them just like we did in North Africa Malta and Gibralter

They attacked UK itself as well as many of the UK controlled areas around the world. So this is not the reason they didn't touch Cyprus. They were not afraid at all to touch a place because it belonged to the British.

In fact being a British colony actually increased the danger for us, just like now we are in danger due to the British bases when the UK starts their unfair crusades in the middle east.

The bases were given the British to supposedly guarantee the sovereignty and independence of Republic of Cyprus. They didn't do anything to stop the coup and then they did nothing to stop the invasion. Now they are even collaborating with the Turks helping them to maintain their illegal occupation. Not only that, they don't even pay the rent that was agreed.

If they can't do what they were responsible to do, then they should give back the bases to us and never get involved with our country again.

[Viewpoint]

Viewpoint, if ethnic cleansing is the way for peace, then how about ethnically cleansing all the TCs for Cyprus and sending them to Turkey?
Then we would again have peace and we would even have a sea separating us which should be even more secure. What do you think?

Or you like ethnic cleansing as a solution only when the GCs are the ones who are ethnically cleansed and the TCs steal twice as much the amount of land that they left behind?

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Piratis, you are right that could be a solution but the same could be said for GCs seeing that it was always their dream to unite the WHOLE island with Greece, why dont you all move there and leave us to get on with things. But this is the difference between us Piratis we never say that, we say Cyprus belongs to both communities, the fact that we cannot share the whole island is as much your fault as it is mine, you yourself have admitted to this, the problem now is that we cannot still agree to live together and it was the GCs that said OXI last not us.
The fact that we have more than our fair share as you like to put it, well think about it this way, you have recognition and isolation and we have the army and land, until we can find a way to resolve things we will stay divided.

[Piratis]

But this is the difference between us Piratis we never say that, we say Cyprus belongs to both communities

Oh OK. So it is ok for you to ethnically cleanse Greek Cypriots from 1/3rd of their country? TCs are the 18% and yet they stole the 37%.

So how about moving all TCs in 0.1% of the land? This way we will both "share" the island based on your idea of "sharing". What do you think?

The fact that we have more than our fair share as you like to put it, well think about it this way, you have recognition and isolation and we have the army and land, until we can find a way to resolve things we will stay divided.

We have nothing more than what legally belongs to us, but way less. Why should we not have recognition? Because we have been invaded?? On the other hand what you keep does not belong to you and you are the ones who insist on illegality.

[bakala]

Piratis your like the greedy little kid at the birthday party crying as the cake gets cut up because you dont want it sharing you want it all
your alwyas going on about shares of this and shares of that, then you pontificate about rights and legality.
lets face it
Turkey at present holds for the Turkish Cypriots a percentage of the island : they hold it like evryone else before them held it
By right of Conquest

your just like the rest of them moaning on and on because when you tried to take all the island you lost more than you gained : and you were bloody lucky that Turkey eventualy agreed to stop advancing south or you would have lost it all, learn to live with it
and no one gave the british bases on Cyprus they were there when Cyprus was given independance By britain,

[Realist]

Well lets put it this way, when Iraq splits up and the Kurds create a state which then leads to the Kurds of Turkey also wanting union with a greater Kurdistan I hope you won't begin to cry like a greedy kid when the Turkish cake gets cut. Afterall is all about conquest as far as your concerned.

[Piratis]

I promise to you that you will be the one moaning and crying in the end. You are officially the enemy of 500.000 people. In fact I have information that the names of people like you are already collected and will be soon published for our refugees to proceed with legal charges against you. Of course this info be sure will not be used only in that way. We will fight you with all ways possible. You have no right to steal our land.