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[cypezokyli]

it was not about provocateurs rolo. they were not killed in order to accuse us.
they have been killed bc they believed in a unified cyprus.

one of them was killed in 1958, while one in 1996.
they have been killed bc of their views. bc they believed that we can live together. and people like that usually spread "dangerous" ideas, dont they ?

[Michael]

Michael

I am so sorry you are a sad pathetic person I know yout mother god forgive her , loves you but you really do need to realise ,,,,,, there is more to life than hate

And I am sorry, that you’re a thief with the morals of a Borgia Pope. You really are quite oblivious to any right and wrong. An Englishman of the worst sort. A lower middle class nobody with the aspirations of your betters. Well, if you can’t afford your retirement why not steal one. You’re no better than the muggers and killers that you foam about every morning over your Daily Express. I hope you rot over there.

[lysi]

RETIRED2CYPRUS you and your gangster pals who have bought property in the occupied north are a bunch of scumbags, we will get our land back from you filthy maggots one day.

[rolo]

So, that means it never happened right?

Now did I write that? Two sides to every coin? Yet you only quoted one side of what I wrote about tc provocation, so please let me quote the other side of of what I wrote but which you omitted, just scroll up and you'll see :

I am though prepared to accept the possibility that tcs were provoking,

You are quite right there is more than one side to every coin.
So let me ask

Do you think enonsis idea was in response to the threat of intervention by Turkey with taksim or even complete rule of cyprus by turkey as its aim or was the desire for taksim in response to the gc desire for enonsis, or even to allow for a peaceful partial enosis?

Two sides per coin as you rightly point out.

[Michael]

To the Mr Moderator , why did you edit my post. Sorry Mr Retired to Cyprus, the end of that

......I hope you rot over there. If by some luck that you and your friends catch an incurable disease, I could recommend a good Doctor, Shipman.

[Michael]

So, that means it never happened right?

Now did I write that? Two sides to every coin? Yet you only quoted one side of what I wrote about tc provocation, so please let me quote the other side of of what I wrote but which you omitted, just scroll up and you'll see :

I am though prepared to accept the possibility that tcs were provoking,

You are quite right there is more than one side to every coin.
So let me ask

Do you think enonsis idea was in response to the threat of intervention by Turkey with taksim or even complete rule of cyprus by turkey as its aim or was the desire for taksim in response to the gc desire for enonsis, or even to allow for a peaceful partial enosis?

Two sides per coin as you rightly point out.

What are you gibbering on about? This is not a discussion about Turkish Cypriots but filthy English swine that live in a military occupied area. And who appear to have carte blanche to advertise themselves on a Greek Cypriot Forum. What next, paedophiles advertising on a Children Charity website. IT MAKES BE LITERALLY SICK!!!

[rolo]

cypezokyli


i appologise i thought you were quoting names of provocateurs............

so the names you quoted are the names of tcs who believed that tc and gc should live together, but were killed by tc terrorists.

well cypezokyli i too believe that tc and gc can live together, however not our present day generations, or probably even the next. To put us back together again now and tell us to forget that i murdered your grandfather or that you murdered my mother and you now live on my land, and expect us to kiss and make up is stretching human kindness a bit.

but i do look forward to being able to share cultures, languages, friendships.....................

unfortunately i dont think it can happen in our lifetime. Hopefully it will evolve naturally, but i dont think we can push it upon people who are not yet ready for it................just read some of the hate filled posts by both sides on this site.

a few nutters have spoilt it for all cypriots - i think we know that -
btw when i do come across the odd tc nationist claiming this or that i do speak up for the vast majority of good gcs.

[rolo]

What are you gibbering on about? This is not a discussion about Turkish Cypriots but filthy English swine that live in a military occupied area. And who appear to have carte blanche to advertise themselves on a Greek Cypriot Forum. What next, paedophiles advertising on a Children Charity website. IT MAKES BE LITERALLY SICK!!!

what is this a grek cypriot website?...................WTF are you on about?

[Alexis]

Now did I write that? Two sides to every coin? Yet you only quoted one side of what I wrote about tc provocation, so please let me quote the other side of of what I wrote but which you omitted, just scroll up and you'll see :

Ok, you didn't explicitly say that it never happened that was something I inferred from your post. If that is not what you intended please accept my apologies. As for TC provocation, another inference I made from your post is that you think the first move was made by the GCs and that Taksim was solely in response to GC aggression and desire for Enosis. Again please accept my apologies if I am wrong.

Do you think enonsis idea was in response to the threat of intervention by Turkey with taksim or even complete rule of cyprus by turkey as its aim or was the desire for taksim in response to the gc desire for enonsis, or even to allow for a peaceful partial enosis?

I would say neither.
In my opinion all these things had a bearing on each other. In my opinion Taksim/Enosis were never reponses to any one thing. They were simply the desires, however misguided, of the two separate communities. The 1923 'exchange of populations' set the precedent that Greek and Turkish communities wherever they exist should be separated. It went a step further, it resulted in two highly nationalist states with aims to achieve demographic and cultural homogeneity. The population of Cyprus found it very easy to categorise themselves as either Greek or Turkish, thus their desires for Enosis and Taksim. One point though, you talk of a 'peaceful partial enosis', what exactly do you mean by this? Surely this is a contradiction in terms. How could partition have been achieved peacefully in Cyprus?

[Michael]

What are you gibbering on about? This is not a discussion about Turkish Cypriots but filthy English swine that live in a military occupied area. And who appear to have carte blanche to advertise themselves on a Greek Cypriot Forum. What next, paedophiles advertising on a Children Charity website. IT MAKES BE LITERALLY SICK!!!

what is this a grek cypriot website?...................WTF are you on about?

Do try and tap the correct letters on your keyboard.
This is a Greek Cypriot operated forum, with obvious participation from anybody that wants to. Apparently, even criminals are allowed their say.
Is that clear?