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Postby Sotos » Thu Mar 23, 2006 2:25 am

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How can you call the British crooks, they never stole anything. A crook is someone who has commited theft. What have the British stole?

Are your assumptions about British or about British buyers in the North? Please clarify as you have sounded like you have termed everyone British a crook


I said - "British crooks for their "great investment" in stolen Greek Cypriot properties" so it is obvious about which British I am talking about ;) Buying something which is stolen and it is illegal to buy also makes somebody a crook. :idea:
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Postby andri_cy » Thu Mar 23, 2006 6:53 am

Sotos wrote:
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How can you call the British crooks, they never stole anything. A crook is someone who has commited theft. What have the British stole?

Are your assumptions about British or about British buyers in the North? Please clarify as you have sounded like you have termed everyone British a crook


I said - "British crooks for their "great investment" in stolen Greek Cypriot properties" so it is obvious about which British I am talking about ;) Buying something which is stolen and it is illegal to buy also makes somebody a crook. :idea:



Buying stolen goods is being an accomplice to a felony. Especially if there was bloodshed during the time that the goods were stolen from their rightful owners. 8)
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Postby rawk » Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:43 pm

grownuptcs

Do you watch a lot of movies?

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Postby growuptcs » Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:50 am

Watch a couple of good flicks a week, not a buff, but thanks for asking.
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Postby growuptcs » Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:07 am

Rawk, we didn't cast our possessions, we were robbed.
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Postby bakala » Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:13 am

you were not robbed
your possesions were gambled by the greeks on a wager that they could take over the whole island. Unfortunately they lost.
well actualy they didnt loose anythiing, they gambled with your possesions
so it was you that lost mate
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Postby bakala » Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:19 am

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Seeing as it was greece that lost your land in a silly wager they should give you some of greece as compensation

ie you should now take possession of say, Crete, then we could have a bit of a break from your continual bleating
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Postby Piratis » Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:35 am

What was the "wager"? Turks have oppressed Greek Cypriots for 300 years, killing 10s of thousands of people. Today they continue with the violations of our human rights and international law.

What you say is that If I come and start beating you up for 10 days in a row, and then at some point you respond by giving me a slap, this means I have the right to keep beating you up in eternity.

So cut the crap please. Turks have commited 100 times more and worst crimes against Greek Cypriots. Stop trying to potrait Greek Cypriots as the evils that deserve to be punished by the angelic Turks.

What is needed is to cut the excuses and give to all the people their human and legal rights and their properties back. And yes, in this senario you will miss the chance of buying a stolen Greek Cypriot property, so it doesn't suit you. But sorry that we insist on human rights instead of the interests of some foreing crook that wants to profit on the expense of the human rights violations of 100s of thousands of people.
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Postby andri_cy » Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:04 am

bakala wrote:...
Seeing as it was greece that lost your land in a silly wager they should give you some of greece as compensation

ie you should now take possession of say, Crete, then we could have a bit of a break from your continual bleating



LOl take a piece of Crete....good idea... :shock:
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Postby Piratis » Fri Mar 24, 2006 5:09 am

Sometimes your posts are sensible and other times they are so completely off the mark it is incredible. Without getting into a "my dads willy is bigger than your dads willy" competition why dont you at least try to look forward. The debate on who is right and who is wrong could go on for centuries. Didnt you know that there is 3 sides to every story? Side A, Side B and the truth. Going on about what happened centuries ago is never going to solve the Cyprus problem. I am sure you will agree that the world has changed since then.

Do you have a sensible, workable proposal? if so lets here it instead of whinging.


Sure, there can be many sides in a story and the truth can be different from all. However the truth is just one, and it remains the same no matter what the claims of side A or side B are. Making outrageous claims does not change the truth. If I make the claim that the whole earth belongs to me, it doesn't mean that the truth should be than I own half of it.

Unfortunately the Turkish side, who is currently in a power position, feels that this power position gives them the right to move this truth to their direction. They make not only outrageous, but also illogical claims. E.g. that the 18% of TCs owns 35% of land, that the 18% of TCs is not a minority (!!!), that it is democratic when in a country the 18% has the same power with the 82%, that they have the right to call part of Cyprus "Turkish", that they have the right for ethnic cleansing and human rights violations, etc.

The truth is that in the past TCs had suffered, and GCs had suffered much more.

My proposal is for a united democratic country, without racist discriminations but with the equal respect for all languages, religions and differences between the Cypriot people.

Asking for human rights is not "whinging". How would you feel if your human and legal rights were violated and then when you tried to find justice you were told: "stop whinging"??
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