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[Piratis]

By the way, interesting that all those that "predict" the recognition of the pseudo puppet state are those criminals that bought land there.

They think that if they keep saying it many times it will become true. Is your propaganda effort coordinated by your "homebuyers pressure group"?

[bakala]

looks like someones getting upset

[Piratis]

Of course I am upset when I see you advertising your crimes without any shame.

Is it your aim to upset us more? I hope you know that for us this is not just an internet game and we take the issue very seriously. You might think you are superman with super "self defence" capabilities, but believe me, if you are ever face a person to whom you committed crimes against then you would wish you kept hiding behind those 40,000 Turkish invasion troops.

[rawk]

piratis I fear the term "moderator" is wasted on you, there is nothing moderate in your language!

What properties, what oppression? Most of the colonies that Britain gave freedom to would beg to come back after the shambles of independance. The land you crave so much was given away by the actions of your forebearers when they took up arms against their fellow countrymen in a mad dream of ethnic identity and national re-union with Greece.

On that day they took all they held precious and threw into the arms of fate! I am not going to be accused 32 years later as a thief when I buy a property from an owner holding a title deed from a sane rational civilized authority.

What's your alternative? Watch some Turkish family being machine gunned and their bodies pushed into a ditch by some EOKA thugs, who walk up laughing and give me the keys to their villa for a few quid in Pathos in 1974?

Swear away, but look to yourself. like the Serbs are going to have to for their shameful acts in Bosnia. Sooner or later,you are going to have to come to terms with what your countrymen did in 1974, unless you don't, this awful shame will pass from generation to generation and stain the name of all Greek Cypriots.

rawk

[Piratis]

And what did my countrymen did in 1974 to deserve this? The Turks in 1974 had killed 6000 people and ethnically cleansed 200.000. Compare that with just some 100s of TCs that got killed after the Turkish invasion had started. Or compare that with the 10s of thousands that the Turks have butchered when they first set their food on Cyprus.

Yes, there was a coup. So it has been in Greece and several times in Turkey. Is that an excuse for a foreign invasion and an occupation? No it is not, this is why the Turkish occupation is illegal.

So stop trying to give lame excuses for your criminal illegal actions. You selectively remember only the TC casualties, conveniently forgetting the 100 times more casualties of GCs from the Turkish atrocities. Before you compare Cyprus with Bosnia remember that it is the Turks that have committed mass murdering and ethnic cleansing here, not Greek Cypriots.

I did my role as a moderator when I suggested to the Admin to ban all the criminal extremists from this forum that advertise their criminal illegal actions. I hope we will soon see the results of my request so you will realize that the term moderator is not wasted on me (even if this is not the section I am responsible for.)

[bakala]

when the schoolyard bully picks on the little guy and trys to steal all the marbles and the little kids big brother steps in and kick the bullies arse i would say justice has been done
its no good asking for the marbles back now claiming you did nothing wrong

As the greek Cyprio milita and the greek soldiers were killing the TCs andd thier own Gcs who were against enosis the UN was asking them to stop . but the GCs turned a deaf ear, and wouldnt listen

the pople who tried to wipe out the TCs gambled when the did what they did, pre 74, if they had suceeded there would be no TCs now because they would all be dead.
Unfortunately for you . they got beat up by the Turkish Regular troops who then proceeded to advance across the island.

Only Greece pleading and begging the UN to step in stopped the turks from taking the whole island. so to be honest you were lucky you didnt loose all the marbles

the truth is you got caught picking on the wrong little guy and to be honest you were lucky only to lose half the island
now its called spoils of war. ever heard of it ? its what the winners get

the land now belongs to who ever governs the North, it happens to be the TRNC, its their land now . so Tough Titty

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[Piratis]

The bully has been the Turks who have been oppressing Greek Cypriots for centuries and have committed 10s of thousands of murders since the day the arrived on our island.

Nobody ever tried to "wipe out" the TCs as you claim. In fact only some 100s of TCs had been killed by GCs since the day Turks arrived on the island, compared with 10s of thousands of GCs that had been killed by the Turks. It is clear who was trying to wipe whom, and it is a fact who has committed ethnic cleansing and still denies to the legal owners to return to their own homes.

The criminals of your kind will be punished. As I said already a list with the names of these criminals is created and info collected.

[bakala]

Piratis
answer me the question i keep asking and no one ever answers
what would have happend to the TCs if the Turks hadnt landed ?

[Piratis]

They would live in a united EU state that would be 100 times better than the illegal puppet state they live now and even much better than what a semi occupied RoC has achieved.

The coup had met the resistance of Greek Cypriots and our president had escaped abroad declaring its illegality. If the Turks had landed in order to help Cypriots to fight the coupists then we would all apriciate their help. However as it is now proven, the Turks didn't do what they were supposed to do according to the treaty of Guarantee, but they instead used those events as an excuse to illegally occupy the north part of Cyprus.

[bakala]

.You mean you would have let them out of the Enclaves they were driven into ?
what would you have done about the over hundreds of Turkish Cypriot farms and villages either stolen or burned down ?

The Turks appealed to Britain to land troops and stop the fighting but Britain had its own people in the middle of the fighting and wouldn’t land troops until they were all safe in case it made British Civilians Targets,
Once the British Civilians were all safe the plan was being put into place to land British troops, The evidence is there for anyone who wants to see it

The Turks appealed to the UN to stop it and the UN appealed to the Greeks to stop it but no one listened,
The Turks no longer trusted the Greeks or the UN after that and the Turkish Cypriots appealed to the Turks to help
so the Turks then landed took over half the island and refused to leave until someone could guarantee the security of the Turkish Cypriots
Who can they trust?
The Greeks? They tried to wipe them out once
The British ? They acted too slow to help and left the Turks to land on their own ( much to my shame )
The UN ? they had already proved they were toothless tigers, only good for protesting in letters and condemning the killings,
for all these years the Turks have refused to leave the Turkish Cypriots at the mercy of a bigger nation that hates them.
Turkey has stayed there to keep the whole island from being overrun .

The week prior to the Turkish Landings

The British government was calling for naval assets to be moved from its north Atlantic fleet to the south west and north east side of Cyprus
Fleet Auxiliary ships ( supply ships ) were being diverted from supplying the Atlantic fleet to the Mediterranean fleet
HMS Hermes ( Aircraft carrier ) was diverted to the med

Paratroops and commando unit’s winter training in Norway were transferred to Malta
Malta would have been within easy range of Air transport for parachute drops onto the Cyprus Airfields

Infantry and armoured units were being drawn from Germany and were on standby for overland transport to Gibraltar ( the British ambassador to Spain was negotiating with Spain to allow British Forces to travel through Spanish territory to Gibraltar

a destroyer squadron was en route from the south Atlantic fleet

Two submarines were already going from the Indian Ocean the long way round off South Africa en route to the med




(British Submarines don’t travel through the canal because their position is never ever known and you can’t keep it secret if you pass through the canal)

the parachute brigade was on the move from Germany by air to Malta. You must have heard of the Para’s. These are scary guys about 50% of the SAS come through 2 Para,
The Para’s specialise in night assaults with fixed bayonets and hand grenades. These are very serious guy’s and not to be pissed about with.

Covert forces on Cyprus were already reporting on movements of all aggressive troop movements directly back to Whitehall

So Turkey only did what Britain was going to do . but Britain would have been too late
Once Turkey landed troops Britain backed off the throttle and allowed Turkey to do the Dirty work
The rest is history
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