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[Piratis]

Oh by the way Piratis who the hell do you think you are to assume that i will buy greek Cypriot land anyway ?

You admitted yourself when you said that you would buy a so called "exchange land", didn't you say that?

[bakala]

i am not a nazi and i take it personally if anyone accuses me of such
My grandfather was wounded in WW 1 at a little place called the somme 60.000 british dead in one battle
My father fought all through WW 2 and was transfered to the far east theatre and fought at a little place called Kohima
look that up in your history books mate

[bakala]

no the only reference i made about buying exchange land was

if i checked to make sure that the land had been accepted for sale by its previous owner be it greek cypriot or turkish Cypriot or who ever,
i would buy exchange land only if the previous owner had accepted willingly, land in the south in exchange

[Agios Amvrosios]

SO you are saying about 300 people allegedly died at the hands of criminals who have no proven links to the legitiamte democratically elected government and therefore the deaths of 6000 plus and ethnic cleansing of 1/3 of an entire country and as a follow on retired colonialists should be allowed to profit from the court recognized abuses of human rights.

My solution would be a lot simpler. prosecute the individuals who did what ever you reckon they did lock them up if they're alive and then let everyone who has no criminal connection to these idiots live like human beings in towns and villages they have legal title to and every one else can fuck off. But things are never simple you wouldn't want these individuals punished you want unconnected civilians to suffer so you can steal property and deny people their ethnic identity and heritage.

[bakala]

Agios
thats a blody good idea
problem is it wasent just greek soldiers who were responsible there was a lot of Greek Cypriots joined militia and formed gangs of thugs to help loot and pillage
sorting them out from the Good Greek Cypriots who tried to hide and help the Turkish Cypriots is gonna be a big problem for you
By the way mate you are wrong about one or two things
ive been on holiday north and south of the border
i believe the genuine Cypriots Notrth and South are really nice people who just want to get on with thier lives.
The Cypriot population are stuck in the middle of an undeclared war thats been going on between greece and turkey since the days of Troy, the only way to solve the problem is to make sure that niether greece or Turkey ever gets to control Cyprus and let the Cypriots govern themselves
and just to make sure lets say that Turkey greece and Britain stand by with the right to unilaterally return to make sure they stay independant
hang on a minute this is starting to sound like a good idea or has it been tried before

it looks like a divided island forever, some kind of federation, and a land compensation package,
Hang on it seems like a good idea or has it been rejected once ?
Its no wonder the Turkish Cypriots cant trust the Greeks

[Agios Amvrosios]

some kind of federation, and a land compensation package,

Land compensation cannot be a remedy for ethnic cleansing- and the way you are suggesting it is effected will be in breach of a whole raft of international and human rights laws. There is only one remedy for ethnic cleansing living together like human beings. If we can' aim to do that there is no hope for the human race.

There is only one human race- and then there are cheap bastard retirees.

p.s.
Troy where are you going with that one mate?

[Agios Amvrosios]

http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article350941.ece

good article

when is the Orams case in Court?

Anyone know?

[bakala]

part of a report by ICG
international Crisis Group

Challenging a basic assumption of the Greek Cypriot thesis that the Cyprus problem dated back to 1974 when Turkey sent its troops to the island in the wake of a coup bysupporters of annexation of the island to Greece, the report also said the period of ethnic disturbance on the island before 1974 was not given due regard, when Turkish Cypriots were pushed into enclaves under an ethnic cleansing campaign.

"In Greek Cypriot historiography, the period between 1963 and 1974 is completely ignored, giving an impression that the ethnic communities coexisted harmoniously," it said.

According to the report, it is time for the European Union, the United Nations and the United States to "do everything possible to reduce the isolation of the Turkish Cypriots, as they promised in April 2004 most urgently, by improving and implementing the EU's proposals for trade with the north

[stuballstu]

Agios


As far as i am aware the Orams case due to be heard on the 8th March however the GC asked for an 8 week deferral. They were granted 4 weeks by the UK courts.

Which is a little peculiar given the fact that they case was prepared and brought before a court in ROC within 12 days.

[Piratis]

Here we go again with the 1963-1974 the only period of history you can remember, nothing before and nothing after.

Didn't I repeatedly said that during the Intercommunal conflict some 100s of TCs were killed??? Yes or No?

Therefore I do not ignore at all any period.

Who ignore the 99% of history remembering only the 1% that suits them are you.

The Turks had killed 10s of thousands when they first set their foot on Cyprus. Is this part of your history?
The Turks had oppressed Greek Cypriots for 3 centuries. Is this part of your history, or you ignore it?
The Turkish Cypriot nationalists had killed some 100s of GCs during the intercommunal conflict, you forgot about this also?
The turkish invasion has caused the death to 6000 people and the ethnic cleansing of 200.000, do you ignore this?

So it is about time to cut the lame excuses of trying to portrait Greek Cypriots as the "evil" that deserve even more punishment and violations of their human rights.