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[djtrax98]

Lysi wrote:

PIMPERNIPPLE is an english prat who is trying to wind everybody up with his crackpot anti cyprus posts.
He has nothing of intrest to say so why reply to this english colonial type fool.

Was that called for? WHO ARE YOU TO CRITICIZE OTHER PEOPLE?
DO NOT GET PERSONAL THIS IS A DEBATE AND A DISCUSSION TO THE CYPRUS PROBLEM FOR ALL OUR BENEFITS.
IF YOUR INPUT IS OF A NEGATIVE NATURE THEN DONT SAY ANYTHING AT ALL.
IT WILL ONLY ADD TO THE FLAMES THAT ARE ALREADY FLYING BETWEEN PEOPLE.

[Michael]

Oh for god sake. This forbearance is becoming nauseating. Lysi, quite rightly points out that this despicable character Pumpernickel is mocking, in a very camp way I may add, to our suffering. He thinks it’s funny to laugh at our misfortunes. What makes it worse, this Ape is living among us. I think your efforts should be more usefully employed than attacking Lysi.

[NeverSayGoodbye]

The expansion policy using military might by the Turkish Repulic is the problem.They have had maps with Cyprus divided in the middle years before 1960.Lets say turkish cyps didnt exist they still would of had found a way to enter the island..so all this "the greeks did this and then this happened" and "the turks did this and that happened" is just bla bla bla and not to the core of the real problem.Even Dektash admits the burning down of mosques by turks to cause hostility a very known method ,thats how the crimes against greeks in Constatinopoli got started turks burned down Kemal's house in Salonika.Now these are not conspiricies but facts not even proven but admitted by the Turks.
Thats how simple it all is unfortunetly.If Turkey convinces me that they have change they way they think and act in a more european manner and not like The Ottoman empire then hey "peace dudes".
I live in Limassol and thats already a multi culture town which proves that people are able living toghether no matter what ethnic backround.
So all this about 1960..and bla bla bla..1974..bla bla bla..is all just camoflage for the real problem which is once again >Turkeys expansion policy< .And not all this saving the turkish cyps or whatever.
Thats how simple it is folks so discussing what happened and who did what do who and when and why...bla bla bla is just a waste of time.
We Greek cypriots are not perfect far from it but we have done little miracles on this island and we do manage to produce some very high quality people every now and then

[pumpernickle]

I'm not camp.

I do care about Cyprus

I do not mock others as a general rule, only those in need of a mock up the arse to make them realise they need to take a different perspective on things.

I'm not evil or otherwise an irrational and nasy person.


Now that my self character reference is over, do ou think we could discuss the thread without degenerating into unecessary insults? Michael? Lysi? and to some extent, one of the moderators, Piraeus?

Less on the sniping front and personal jibes, and more on banter and debate please.

[paaul12]

djtrax98 wrote

What were the deciding factors of you buying property in the north and not the south? What do you think will happen if and when a solution is reached to your property?
I would like to hear out the opinion of someone who has property in the north to see what makes people choose to live in the north than the south..
Its always good in a debate to get the opinion of someone on the other side of the fence, unfortunately people on this forum don’t seem to understand the word debate, many think its a synonym for 'attack'.

Well let’s just take a look at what makes someone choose the TRNC over the south. In order to do this we need to look back at the history of Cyprus and where we are today.

I think a lot of people choose the north as a sign of support for the Turkish Cypriot people. Support for the knowledge that over the years the Turkish Cypriot people have lost so much through the inhumanity shown by the Greek Cypriot. You can not deny that we have reached this position today because of the way you “Greek Cypriots” treated your brothers the Turkish Cypriot.

You cannot deny that the TC were robbed of all that they owned, they would go to work each day not knowing if they would be coming home that night, have you ever seen the film “Voice of Blood 2” it is so sad and it tells the story written by a Greek Cypriot of how these TC were treated and how they were taken from their homes an executed in mass graves.

You then had your master plan to wipe the TC from the Island of Cyprus and if it had not been for the intervention of Turkey you would have had your wish. Fortunately the Turkish army arrived and blew you out of the water instead of finding yourself shooting farmers with sticks to defend themselves you were now facing a real army and you ran!

Since then you have done what ever you can to put the TC down you do not allow them simple things that you a I would take fro granted, they cant post a letter play a game of football against another country and even fly directly to their own country. Despite all this and more the TC have eked out a living for themselves they are succeeding in spite of all your efforts and each year that goes by only allows the TC to grow stronger against all the odds.

Having considered all the above I believe that someone choose to purchase in the north as a show of support, a clear sign that yes we know what you have been through, you have succeeded where many would have fallen by making this purchase I hope that my efforts will allow you to grow stronger and succeeded with your goals.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but not their own facts

[Piratis]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but not their own facts

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but not their own laws.

In Cyprus there is only one legal state, the Republic of Cyprus. Or maybe you will deny this fact paaul12?

The scum that buy property in the occupied areas instead of the free areas or Turkey or Greece or Spain or anywhere else in the world do it for one reason: They get the property at a bargain price because it is stolen.

After they "buy" the property and they realize that they can loose their investment they subscribe to all the usual lame Turkish propaganda trying to give excuses first and above all their own conscience (if there is anything left in them).

In fact paul, Turks in Cyprus have committed 100 times more crimes against Greek Cypriots for a much much longer period of time. In fact Turks have massacred 20.000 people within days the first time they set their foot in Cyprus, and in fact again they have killed 6000 and ethnically cleansed 200.000 with their illegal invasion in 1974. Here paul we are talking about 100s of years of oppression and over 3 decades of illegal occupation, were the Turks at times have massacured 1000s (or even 10s of thousands) of people within days.

The "evil" GCs on the other hand have killed some 100s of TCs during the intercommunal conflict (period of about a decade), in which decade the TCs had killed an equal number of GCs!

The Turks have invaded Cyprus with the pretext of the Turkish minority, just like the Nazis had invaded Czechoslovakia. And just like the Nazis, the Turkish military ruled terrorist state, is having their own puppet commanders in the areas they illegally occupy.

Human scum that "buy" our properties in the occupied areas deserve no respect. As another member pointed out, these are the same kind of scum that in the 40s had a nice ring made from the gold teeth of the murdered millions from a death Nazi camp.

[djtrax98]

pauul12 wrote:

djtrax98 wrote

Quote:
What were the deciding factors of you buying property in the north and not the south? What do you think will happen if and when a solution is reached to your property?
I would like to hear out the opinion of someone who has property in the north to see what makes people choose to live in the north than the south..
Its always good in a debate to get the opinion of someone on the other side of the fence, unfortunately people on this forum don’t seem to understand the word debate, many think its a synonym for 'attack'.



Well let’s just take a look at what makes someone choose the TRNC over the south. In order to do this we need to look back at the history of Cyprus and where we are today.

I think a lot of people choose the north as a sign of support for the Turkish Cypriot people. Support for the knowledge that over the years the Turkish Cypriot people have lost so much through the inhumanity shown by the Greek Cypriot. You can not deny that we have reached this position today because of the way you “Greek Cypriots” treated your brothers the Turkish Cypriot.

You cannot deny that the TC were robbed of all that they owned, they would go to work each day not knowing if they would be coming home that night, have you ever seen the film “Voice of Blood 2” it is so sad and it tells the story written by a Greek Cypriot of how these TC were treated and how they were taken from their homes an executed in mass graves.

You then had your master plan to wipe the TC from the Island of Cyprus and if it had not been for the intervention of Turkey you would have had your wish. Fortunately the Turkish army arrived and blew you out of the water instead of finding yourself shooting farmers with sticks to defend themselves you were now facing a real army and you ran!

Since then you have done what ever you can to put the TC down you do not allow them simple things that you a I would take fro granted, they cant post a letter play a game of football against another country and even fly directly to their own country. Despite all this and more the TC have eked out a living for themselves they are succeeding in spite of all your efforts and each year that goes by only allows the TC to grow stronger against all the odds.

Having considered all the above I believe that someone choose to purchase in the north as a show of support, a clear sign that yes we know what you have been through, you have succeeded where many would have fallen by making this purchase I hope that my efforts will allow you to grow stronger and succeeded with your goals.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but not their own facts

dear pauul12,
that is not an answer to the question that i asked, instead you seem to have added more fuel to the fire, and are now being attacked as a result.
What i am asking is what generally drives people to buy property in the north, i.e is it cos its cheap the lifestyle weather, the people ect etc....
You missed the point entirely, i do hope you understand?
Cheers djtrax98

[djtrax98]

pumpernickle i couldnt have put it better myself on this you are a true voice of reason amongst shadows of the dark....
When will people realise that this should not be getting personal its turned into a breeding ground for attacks and personal insults between differing opinions.
Bring back the debate and friendship lets calm this down, all testosterone filled writers cool off and calm down, people are just expresisng their views, some you may agree with others you wont, dont consider someones differing opinions an insult to you, that is a backdoor to a fighting ring.
Its just turning stupid now. Sad thing is its stopping people from debating the subject constructively cos a minority few are intent on getting personal over things they really shouldnt be getting personal about.
Peace and love hand in hand towards the light:

[Michael]

pauul12 wrote:

djtrax98 wrote

Quote:
What were the deciding factors of you buying property in the north and not the south? What do you think will happen if and when a solution is reached to your property?
I would like to hear out the opinion of someone who has property in the north to see what makes people choose to live in the north than the south..
Its always good in a debate to get the opinion of someone on the other side of the fence, unfortunately people on this forum don’t seem to understand the word debate, many think its a synonym for 'attack'.



Well let’s just take a look at what makes someone choose the TRNC over the south. In order to do this we need to look back at the history of Cyprus and where we are today.

I think a lot of people choose the north as a sign of support for the Turkish Cypriot people. Support for the knowledge that over the years the Turkish Cypriot people have lost so much through the inhumanity shown by the Greek Cypriot. You can not deny that we have reached this position today because of the way you “Greek Cypriots” treated your brothers the Turkish Cypriot.

You cannot deny that the TC were robbed of all that they owned, they would go to work each day not knowing if they would be coming home that night, have you ever seen the film “Voice of Blood 2” it is so sad and it tells the story written by a Greek Cypriot of how these TC were treated and how they were taken from their homes an executed in mass graves.

You then had your master plan to wipe the TC from the Island of Cyprus and if it had not been for the intervention of Turkey you would have had your wish. Fortunately the Turkish army arrived and blew you out of the water instead of finding yourself shooting farmers with sticks to defend themselves you were now facing a real army and you ran!

Since then you have done what ever you can to put the TC down you do not allow them simple things that you a I would take fro granted, they cant post a letter play a game of football against another country and even fly directly to their own country. Despite all this and more the TC have eked out a living for themselves they are succeeding in spite of all your efforts and each year that goes by only allows the TC to grow stronger against all the odds.

Having considered all the above I believe that someone choose to purchase in the north as a show of support, a clear sign that yes we know what you have been through, you have succeeded where many would have fallen by making this purchase I hope that my efforts will allow you to grow stronger and succeeded with your goals.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but not their own facts

dear pauul12,
that is not an answer to the question that i asked, instead you seem to have added more fuel to the fire, and are now being attacked as a result.
What i am asking is what generally drives people to buy property in the north, i.e is it cos its cheap the lifestyle weather, the people ect etc....
You missed the point entirely, i do hope you understand?
Cheers djtrax98

It’s as obvious as the nose at the end of your face. These “people “are devoid of any morality. That’s why they buy property in the occupied areas. The fact that the Turks always sell at a 100 % profit is neither here nor there. They don’t care as long as these parasites have the cheap holiday homes. Sometimes it’s left to Mr. Robb to strike back at these scums. I hope he is having a great life at their loss. If these “people” were around in NAZI Germany during the war, they would be working as guards at the camp.

[djtrax98]

OK AGREED the issue of property sale in the north is wrong and i readily admit that it is immoral, but leaving sentiments aside what factors actually contribute in peoples decisions to choose northern cyprus over souther cyprus to invest their money?
Bear in mind not only Brits buy houses over there, many other nationalities too, (Norwegians, Danish etc etc..)

Perhaps someone who has bought property over there would like to answer?
And guys we are all talking-Lets find out what drives people to buy land in the north, PLEASE DONT ATTACK ANYONE.