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[Michael]

You are a desperate to show that everything is fine and dandy in your Turkic ghetto. Stealing in the Judeo Christian tradition is a crime. I am sure it is in the Muslim religion. Nomadic Turkic tribes also take a dim view if, say a chicken was stolen, probably kill your whole family. Very civilised. Best thing you can do is pack your bags go home and everything will be fine.

Keep talking, you condemn yourself with your every word - and I love it!

Wait a minute, I get it, you are actually a Turk masquerading as a nutter Greek racist, so as to discredit them. Exposed!!

It would only be racist if it was untrue. Each sentence is statement of fact. Do you not live in a Turkic ghetto? Why are you ashamed of what you are?

[Strahd]

Strahd please clarify what you mean by the crimes still continue. Do you mean the land sale situation or something else?

Maybe the following documents of the UN will enlighten you on the recognised crimes that Turkey is commiting every day in Cyprus by the continuing occupation of part of this country.


Resolutions Adopted By The UN General Assembly

1. 2077 (XX) 1965
2. 3212 (XXIX) 1974
3. 3395 (XXX) 1975
4. 31/12 1976
5. 32/15 1977
6. 33/15 1978
7. 34/30 1979
8. 37/253 1983

On Missing Persons
9. 3450 (XXX) 1975
10. 32/128 1977
11. 33/172 1978
12. 36/164 1981
13. 37/181 1982

ON Human Rights

14. 4 (XXXI) 1975
15. 4 (XXXII) 1976
16. 17 (XXXIV) 1978
17. 1987/50 1987

Resolutions adopted by the UN Security Council

* Res. 186 (1964)
* Res. 187 (1964)
* Res. 192 (1964)
* Res. 193 (1964)
* Res. 194 (1964)
* Res. 198 (1964)
* Res. 201 (1965)
* Res. 206 (1965)
* Res. 207 (1965)
* Res. 219 (1965)
* Res. 220 (1966)
* Res. 222 (1966)
* Res. 231 (1966)
* Res. 238 (1967)
* Res. 244 (1967)
* Res. 247 (1968)
* Res. 254 (1968)
* Res. 261 (1968)
* Res. 266 (1969)
* Res. 274 (1969)
* Res. 281 (1970)
* Res. 291 (1970)
* Res. 293 (1971)
* Res. 305 (1971)
* Res. 315 (1972)
* Res. 324 (1972)
* Res. 334 (1973)
* Res. 343 (1973)
* Res. 349 (1974)
* Res. 353 (1974)
* Res. 354 (1974)
* Res. 355 (1974)
* Res. 357 (1974)
* Res. 358 (1974)
* Res. 359 (1974)
* Res. 360 (1974)
* Res. 361 (1974)
* Res. 364 (1974)
* Res. 365 (1974)
* Res. 367 (1975)
* Res. 370 (1975)
* Res. 383 (1975)
* Res. 391 (1976)
* Res. 401 (1976)
* Res. 410 (1977)
* Res. 414 (1977)
* Res. 422 (1977)
* Res. 430 (1978)
* Res. 440 (1978)
* Res. 443 (1978)
* Res. 451 (1979)
* Res. 458 (1979)
* Res. 472 (1980)
* Res. 482 (1980)
* Res. 488 (1981)
* Res. 495 (1981)
* Res. 510 (1982)
* Res. 526 (1982)
* Res. 534 (1983)
* Res. 541 (1983)
* Res. 544 (1983)
* Res. 550 (1984)
* Res. 553 (1984)
* Res. 559 (1984)
* Res. 565 (1985)
* Res. 578 (1985)
* Res. 585 (1986)
* Res. 593 (1986)
* Res. 597 (1987)
* Res. 604 (1987)
* Res. 614 (1988)
* Res. 625 (1988)
* Res. 634 (1989)
* Res. 646 (1989)
* Res. 649 (1990)
* Res. 716 (1991)
* Res. 750 (1992)
* Res. 774 (1992)
* Res. 789 (1992)
* Res. 831/93 (1993)
* Res. 839/93 (1993)
* Res. 889/93 (1993)
* Res. 902/94 (1994)
* Res. 939/94 (1994)
* Res. 969/94 (1994)
* Res. 1000/95 (1995)
* Res. 1032/95 (1995)
* Res. 1062/96 (1996)
* Res. 1092/96 (1996)

[djtrax98]

Strahd could you do me a favour and send me any online links which i could view these with?
These must be posted somewhere within the EU pages....
Cheers.

[Michael]

Michael wrote:

On the contrary, I think we have grasped the realities all too well. We don’t want to see lower middle class English scum popping over to the occupied areas and buying our land at knock down prices. We don’t hate the English; I think Scots hate the English. We hate cancerous scum like you.

The reality is Michael that its talk like that which turns this debate into a personal firing range. That is why i counter attacked Piratis statement to me last night i do not appreciate being attacked and insulted over expressing my views on a public forum, i as an English Cypriot have as much a right to expression as you do.

English people in general are always after a bargain, however many of them are misinformed when buying or viewing properties in the North by salesmen who just want to make money out of them. Many of them do not their rights and that its wrong to go ahead with such transactions. Many of them do its not for me or you to decide, we cannot judge anyone.

Can someone answer me this?
WHAT HOPE IS THERE OF FINDING A SOLUTION WHEN WE CANNOT EVEN CONGREGATE ON A DEBATE SUCH AS THIS WITHOUT LAUNCHING ATTACKS ON PEOPLES VIEWS?

'We have cancerous scum like you'
Is that really fair? to call someone cancerous scum because they voiced their opinion which YOU did not agree with?
Another Fact. Many people abroad including repatriated Cypriots agree with what i and many others have written on this site regarding the inability to put the past behind us and move forward. Why? Because they have escpaed the brainwash that is Cyprus society and have lived for long enough abroad to be able to take a much more wider scope of the situation.
Perhaps before anyone else gets personal within this forum again either towards me(which i WONT tolerate especially from MODERATORS) or anyone else expressing their views they should book themselves a return ticket to another country.
Maybe after you have lived there and seen the error of your judgements and criticisms you can come back and shed light on this discussion instead of POISON AND FIRE.

The “Turkic Ghetto” response was not aimed at you but a character called Mackettry.
I am at loss to understand your logic. It is always a bargain when it is illegally obtained. There can be no excuse. These people are on generally from the lower end of the social spectra; however they are also fully aware that the land/house is not the sellers to give. If the occupied areas are not recognised by anyone but the occupier how can it be anything but so?
I repeat these scum are a cancer on the face of Cyprus. It is beyond me why slime such as the Omans are not arrested and in thrown in jail as soon as they step unto the R.O.C. They have evidently broken the law.
You are at best misinformed and at worse an appeaser.

[djtrax98]

Apologies Michael i thought that response was aimed at me.
Agreed, there is no excuse for people to proceed with the purchase of land or houses which are sold illegally within northern cyprus.
That i agree with you totally, my ex partners parents used to live in the south however upon their return to the uk proceeded on expensive 5* holidays to the north every year, until 2 years ago when they were actually looking for property to buy.
Their defence was having lived in the south, the north was 'much friendlier, cheaper and not so commercialised' as southern cyprus was.
I never understood their logic they cared nothing for the situation as it stands and this angered me a little.
However in saying this the north is actvely promoting their estates business across the international spectrum, and so people are attracted to buy from these people sometimes not fully understanding what is happening.
Most people are fully aware of the situation , which to be prefectly honest they deserve everything they get for investing money there. The land they purchase is neither theirs once paid nor was it ever the property of the agents selling it and they should think what will happen to them once the problem is solved.
I am not agreeing with this, and it angers me to see land being sold to people that doesnt belong to them.
This is unfortunately one of the problems associated with the situation in the north at the moment being allowed to promote and advertise stolen land.
It would be interesting to get the response of someone who has bought land or a house in the north on this? If anyone who has done so reads this what made you buy the land or house in the north and why?
Wat you think Michael? Objectivity lets see why people are doing this....

[macketterry]

Michael wrote:

On the contrary, I think we have grasped the realities all too well. We don’t want to see lower middle class English scum popping over to the occupied areas and buying our land at knock down prices. We don’t hate the English; I think Scots hate the English. We hate cancerous scum like you.

The reality is Michael that its talk like that which turns this debate into a personal firing range. That is why i counter attacked Piratis statement to me last night i do not appreciate being attacked and insulted over expressing my views on a public forum, i as an English Cypriot have as much a right to expression as you do.

English people in general are always after a bargain, however many of them are misinformed when buying or viewing properties in the North by salesmen who just want to make money out of them. Many of them do not their rights and that its wrong to go ahead with such transactions. Many of them do its not for me or you to decide, we cannot judge anyone.

Can someone answer me this?
WHAT HOPE IS THERE OF FINDING A SOLUTION WHEN WE CANNOT EVEN CONGREGATE ON A DEBATE SUCH AS THIS WITHOUT LAUNCHING ATTACKS ON PEOPLES VIEWS?

'We have cancerous scum like you'
Is that really fair? to call someone cancerous scum because they voiced their opinion which YOU did not agree with?
Another Fact. Many people abroad including repatriated Cypriots agree with what i and many others have written on this site regarding the inability to put the past behind us and move forward. Why? Because they have escpaed the brainwash that is Cyprus society and have lived for long enough abroad to be able to take a much more wider scope of the situation.
Perhaps before anyone else gets personal within this forum again either towards me(which i WONT tolerate especially from MODERATORS) or anyone else expressing their views they should book themselves a return ticket to another country.
Maybe after you have lived there and seen the error of your judgements and criticisms you can come back and shed light on this discussion instead of POISON AND FIRE.

The “Turkic Ghetto” response was not aimed at you but a character called Mackettry.
I am at loss to understand your logic. It is always a bargain when it is illegally obtained. There can be no excuse. These people are on generally from the lower end of the social spectra; however they are also fully aware that the land/house is not the sellers to give. If the occupied areas are not recognised by anyone but the occupier how can it be anything but so?
I repeat these scum are a cancer on the face of Cyprus. It is beyond me why slime such as the Omans are not arrested and in thrown in jail as soon as they step unto the R.O.C. They have evidently broken the law.
You are at best misinformed and at worse an appeaser.

You are for some reason obsessed with a few hundred British pensioners who have chosen the tanquility of north Cyprus to live out their final years. Do you really think that if it weren't for this tiny number of people you'd all be back in your ancestral homes in a jiffy? If you do you are a dunce.

Stop avoiding the issue you weakling - negotiate with your Turkish neighbours and come to a political compromise instead of taking the easy route and bashing a few old grannies.

[djtrax98]

macketterry,
You are spot on with what you have written.
Can i just ask from what you have written on here in the past, you are obviously living in the north.
please dont misunderstand me we are jst debating, and i am in no way biased or over patriotic in my thinking i just like to understand.
I have been trying to make a point that compromise is what is needed for a solution to go through yet noone seems to understand me some took it personally.
May i just ask:
What were the deciding factors of you buying property in the north and not the south? What do you think will happen if and when a solution is reached to your property?
I would like to hear out the opinion of someone who has property in the north to see what makes people choose to live in the north than the south..
Its always good in a debate to get the opinion of someone on the other side of the fence, unfortuantely people on this forum dont seem to understand the word debate, many think its a synonym for 'attack'.
regards

[NeverSayGoodbye]

What problem?
Correct there is no problem since the turkish cypriots are now becoming fewer and fewer.So the Turks came here to save them and the turkish cypriots are running away.How strange.
Somebody seems to be underestimating our intelligence.
Turkey always had the sweet eye for cyprus. Turkish cypriots or not they will still have tried one way or the other to get Cyprus.THATS the F#### problem.
We can go on and on for ever..this happened and this happend.
So the problem is Turkey's conquer policy.You believe they will stop here,no way they also have their eyes on the agean and northern Irak...

[lysi]

PIMPERNIPPLE is an english prat who is trying to wind everybody up with his crackpot anti cyprus posts.
He has nothing of intrest to say so why reply to this english colonial type fool.

[Michael]

Michael wrote:

On the contrary, I think we have grasped the realities all too well. We don’t want to see lower middle class English scum popping over to the occupied areas and buying our land at knock down prices. We don’t hate the English; I think Scots hate the English. We hate cancerous scum like you.

The reality is Michael that its talk like that which turns this debate into a personal firing range. That is why i counter attacked Piratis statement to me last night i do not appreciate being attacked and insulted over expressing my views on a public forum, i as an English Cypriot have as much a right to expression as you do.

English people in general are always after a bargain, however many of them are misinformed when buying or viewing properties in the North by salesmen who just want to make money out of them. Many of them do not their rights and that its wrong to go ahead with such transactions. Many of them do its not for me or you to decide, we cannot judge anyone.

Can someone answer me this?
WHAT HOPE IS THERE OF FINDING A SOLUTION WHEN WE CANNOT EVEN CONGREGATE ON A DEBATE SUCH AS THIS WITHOUT LAUNCHING ATTACKS ON PEOPLES VIEWS?

'We have cancerous scum like you'
Is that really fair? to call someone cancerous scum because they voiced their opinion which YOU did not agree with?
Another Fact. Many people abroad including repatriated Cypriots agree with what i and many others have written on this site regarding the inability to put the past behind us and move forward. Why? Because they have escpaed the brainwash that is Cyprus society and have lived for long enough abroad to be able to take a much more wider scope of the situation.
Perhaps before anyone else gets personal within this forum again either towards me(which i WONT tolerate especially from MODERATORS) or anyone else expressing their views they should book themselves a return ticket to another country.
Maybe after you have lived there and seen the error of your judgements and criticisms you can come back and shed light on this discussion instead of POISON AND FIRE.

The “Turkic Ghetto” response was not aimed at you but a character called Mackettry.
I am at loss to understand your logic. It is always a bargain when it is illegally obtained. There can be no excuse. These people are on generally from the lower end of the social spectra; however they are also fully aware that the land/house is not the sellers to give. If the occupied areas are not recognised by anyone but the occupier how can it be anything but so?
I repeat these scum are a cancer on the face of Cyprus. It is beyond me why slime such as the Omans are not arrested and in thrown in jail as soon as they step unto the R.O.C. They have evidently broken the law.
You are at best misinformed and at worse an appeaser.

You are for some reason obsessed with a few hundred British pensioners who have chosen the tanquility of north Cyprus to live out their final years. Do you really think that if it weren't for this tiny number of people you'd all be back in your ancestral homes in a jiffy? If you do you are a dunce.

Stop avoiding the issue you weakling - negotiate with your Turkish neighbours and come to a political compromise instead of taking the easy route and bashing a few old grannies.

You really are quite dense by little Hun friend. You are not only stupid you appear to exist in a topsy turvy world of right and wrong. Can you not see that the “few hundred British pensioners” are breaking the law? I know that concept of legality is something quite alien to a Turks, but even you can see the obvious injustices. I repeat again, anybody that bought property in the occupied areas are little better than sewer rats.