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[Get Real!]

Turkey has begun the Israeli encroachment

I suspect Israel is by now having major regrets for allowing; or even conspiring with, Britain and France in transferring Ukrainian arms to resurrect the Syrian Jihadis who then went on to oust Syrian president Assad recently!

With Assad gone the Israelis are starting to realize they have a much bigger and more sinister problem approaching the Israel border… Turkey... talk about a bad miscalculation!

The Assad government is no longer the buffer that existed between Turkey and Israel and with the Jihadis fully on Erdogan’s side, he can now advance through Syria and set up all the Turkish bases he desires right up to the Israeli border!

And advancing in Syria is exactly what Turkey is now doing… Erdogan has been eager for a clash with the Israelis for a very long time…he’s always hated them with a passion and now at long last there’s no legitimate Syrian authority standing in his way!

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-848349

https://www.arabprogress.org/en/escalat ... culations/

To counter Turkey’s moves Israel recently scrambled to salvage the two Russian bases in Syria and even frantically called for US support to prevent the Jihadis from going anywhere near them, and Putin was more than happy with the convenient arrangement.

The Russians have even expanded these bases supposedly to house the Allawite (Christian) Syrians, but I doubt Turkey will be prevented or even bothered by the Russians from filling in Assad’s void… as long as they stay out of each other’s way!

With full Syrian Jihadi support, I suspect the Turks will get comfortable very quickly in Syria and start setting up all sorts of military posts and maybe even train the Jihadis to become their auxiliary militia!

Israel, having been spoiled with getting its way over feeble neighbors that couldn’t fight back, will soon begin to experience the exact opposite!

Btw, this development will no doubt be sweet music to Maximus’ ears who would welcome a clash between Israel and Turkey thinking that Israel being a military "big shot" could teach Turkey a lesson or two… but he would be very much mistaken because Turkey could wipe the floor with Israel in like a month, if they wanted. Sorry Maximus…

[Lordo]

I would like to give a bit of advice to the Syrians regarding protection from Turkey. A similar situation existed in Cyprus back in 1963/4. Turkish Cypriots withdrew from government and Kucuk wrote a letter to Ismet Inonu who was then the PM of Turkey. In that letter, Kucuk asked Inonu to come send his army to Cyprus to protect the TCs. He claimed that the GCs were going to kill all the TCs. Inonu advised Kucuk and the TC MPs to go back to parliament and take their seat. He also exclaimed to Kucuk that there would be no problem sending the Turkish Army in the protect them but pose this question. The question was "Who will protect you from us?".

Syrians should think very seriously about asking protection from Turkey. As Ukrainians found out to their cost depending on somebody else for their protection.

[Maximus]

Btw, this development will no doubt be sweet music to Maximus’ ears who would welcome a clash between Israel and Turkey thinking that Israel being a military "big shot" could teach Turkey a lesson or two… but he would be very much mistaken because Turkey could wipe the floor with Israel in like a month, if they wanted. Sorry Maximus…

Thank you for your kind words GR, but I will wait before making more elaborate comments on this topic.

What I will say for now is both Israel and Turkey will reap what they have sowed.

[Get Real!]

It looks like the shortsighted Jihadi clown who was celebrating his pyrrhic victory not too long ago, has now found himself stuck between a tiger and a lion…

“Israel's defence minister warned Syria's interim President Ahmed al-Sharaa on Thursday that he would "pay a very heavy price" if he allowed "forces hostile to Israel" to enter the country”

There’s no way anyone is gonna stop Turkey’s advancement in Syria considering all the investment/sacrifices they made since 2011, at the Turkish border and northern Syria.

So the little Jihadi is probably a dead man walking…

[Lordo]

What difference will it make if they kill him? There is another in the wings waiting to take over. Nothing will change. But unfortunately the Israelis have yet to learn that killing an individual no matter what rank does not solve the problem simply prolongs the agony. Those who have a choice of fighting age are abandoning Israel back to the West.

America did not allow Turkey and Greece to go to war, it will be interesting if they allow Turkey and Israel to go to war.

Considering Israel has not been able to defeat Hamas or Hezbollah, and the Turks have a serious army behind them, they will train these Jihadis that will make them a lot more effective. Add to that Turkey produces their own drones and Israel indeed does have something to fear.

[Maximus]

It looks like the shortsighted Jihadi clown who was celebrating his pyrrhic victory not too long ago, has now found himself stuck between a tiger and a lion…

“Israel's defence minister warned Syria's interim President Ahmed al-Sharaa on Thursday that he would "pay a very heavy price" if he allowed "forces hostile to Israel" to enter the country”

There’s no way anyone is gonna stop Turkey’s advancement in Syria considering all the investment/sacrifices they made since 2011, at the Turkish border and northern Syria.

So the little Jihadi is probably a dead man walking…

its important to approach the situation with a nuanced perspective GR.

You may be rooting for Turkey to punish Israel for what has been done to the Palestinians, but lets not forget that Turkey was one of the main protagonists stirring up the Syrian Civil war and providing support to their ISIS proxies. That conflict created over half a million dead, by some estimates, and millions of people displaced over the course of a decade.

In such a fluid environment, it is challenging to predict outcomes.

Some regional actors might seem in a "precarious" position now, but alliances and strategies can shift quickly.

[Maximus]

Add to that Turkey produces their own drones and Israel indeed does have something to fear.

This is always presented by Turkophiles as some kind of ace up Turkeys sleeve, but it is nothing of the sort and it all depends.

Iran sent hundreds of drones to overwhelm Israeli air defences, and you can count on one hand how many got through, to cause no damage.

Just to let you know, that Israel has (now) superseded THAT air defence system with a new iron "beam", which would probably render Turkey's entire airforce useless, all at the speed of light.

I am just saying,

[Get Real!]

Add to that Turkey produces their own drones and Israel indeed does have something to fear.

This is always presented by Turkophiles as some kind of ace up Turkeys sleeve, but it is nothing of the sort and it all depends.

Iran sent hundreds of drones to overwhelm Israeli air defences, and you can count on one hand how many got through, to cause no damage.

Just to let you know, that Israel has (now) superseded THAT air defence system with a new iron "beam", which would probably render Turkey's entire airforce useless, all at the speed of light.

I am just saying,

As if Israel would ever admit to any sustained damage from its foes in the West’s worthless media!

But thanks to Russian satellite imagery we can ascertain the exact damage done to Israel as happened the day after the last Iranian strike when around 2,000 strikes of sorts were fired and flown at them.

One thing I love about the Russian media is the fact that they never shy away from publishing all the news… good or bad!

Even their own bad news such as…

“Today the armed forces of Ukraine struck the oil refinery at…”

…they just don’t care about reporting their bad news let alone that of other countries!

So having observed the satellite imagery and all evidence that was presented at the time I can inform that about 98% of Iran’s ballistic missiles had successfully landed on Israeli territory.

From those, around 40% had hit their targets with accuracy including Netanyahu’s villa, a group of five F-35s parked at one end of a military airport destroyed, and many other targets destroyed or damaged… detail of which I no longer recall.

I do however recall that the strike against the Mossad HQ had missed by about 100 meters as the missile ended up half-buried in some dirt patch across and further down the road.

No doubt the US will have by now supplied the Israelis with something to better counter Iran’s ballistic missiles, just as the Iranians will by now have made their own trajectory adjustments and fine-tuning after observing the outcome of their efforts through Russian satellite imagery and perhaps their own.

My intend here is not to bore you with details but to highlight the fact that the West, including Israel… are full of shit when it comes to facts.

There’s no question that Turkey can seriously damage Israel… and much deadlier than what Iran can.

[Maximus]

I also thought that RT was unbiased, and possibly biased at times and certainly better than some western media outlets. I did enjoy reading it to get a more balanced view of geopolitical affairs.

If you have that Russian satellite imagery of the damage done by the Iranian strike, i would like to take a look at it.

But it doesnt really matter if you dont, because;

1) an iranian university professor from tehran was on piers morgan uncensored, confirming that the strike was unsuccessful and did nothing but test israeli air defences and preparedness.

2) the iranian government themselves did not dispute claims that the attack was unsuccessful. They actually confirmed too and put their own spin on it.

3) It does not make sense to me as to why the western media would want to play an attack on Israel down. Especially, a significant one like you have portrayed. Given that the western media is controlled by jews, and how they have a reputation of portraying themselves as the victims, I would have thought it would have been in their interest to play something like this up, to further justify the reasons to attack Iran and milk some international sympathy out of it.

Playing it down would just be the wrong sort of propoganda, innit.

[Get Real!]

That Israel downplays its military losses is an old story, Maximus.

For example, you won’t find them publishing their losses (troops, vehicles, choppers, jets) after over a year of clashes on multiple fronts (Gaza, Syria, Lebanon, etc) or even those of friendly fire.

Troops, choppers and tanks in particular, are not difficult to target and destroy with the firepower their opponents possess… and it would be impossible for the Israelis to not have suffered any losses.

What you will certainly find; to aid Israel’s propaganda that you mention, is reports of when a rocket or missile hits a civilian target (intentionally or otherwise)… which is selective reporting and no different to what the Ukraine does.

On sources…

These days there are many locals (civilians) recording damage and whatever is flying overhead in their neighborhoods which they then post on (predominantly) Telegram.

More relevant to the topic at hand, there was a young Israeli guy who drove around and captured footage of the damaged Netanyahu mansion, the Mossad HQ and fallen missile, and much other destruction around Tel Aviv, which he then posted (video and images) on his Telegram channel.

A few days later he was arrested by the Israeli police but I don’t have any further updates on his current status.

Here’s a Singaporean article as an example of evidence…

https://www.ibtimes.sg/iran-strikes-nev ... foot-76305

More...

https://www.npr.org/2024/10/04/nx-s1-51 ... i-air-base

https://apnews.com/article/iran-attack- ... a6fe1dcd42

Btw, you mention a “Iranian university professor” and the “Iranian government” putting themselves down after the strike… but you should question the legitimacy of such interviews and statements in the West’s media!