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[Leonidas]

Just in case you do not realise it. The USA is a superpower. A VERY restrained one. Because IF it was another country after Sept 11 they would had dealt with things in a VERY different way. Screw the rest of the world. Nuke them arabs. YET we did not did we. So shut you mouth up and find someone else to fu*k with.

Are you for real,Leonidas?
The USA response to Sept 11 was very restraint???
25 international criminals highjack planes and attack innocent civilians,and the USA goes and demolishes a country which had nothing to do with the attacks,and you call that very restrained???
Do you know how many men,women and children have been killed in Iraq so that the USA's thirst for revenge is satisfied???If I were you I would hang my head in shame,not boast about it...

Well I guess it is better than sending a few atomic bombs that way right?

And who ARE you to tell me what to do with my head? I stand tall and proud of this country.
Are you going to tell me that Saddam was a nice guy too? Are you going to say that they NEVER had WMDs either? Get real please. Thousands of Iraqis had died because of Saddam and his regim.

THEN again, maybe the USA should had stayed put and let Hittler go on with his plans. Now that would had been nice wouldn't it?

Oh how fast we forget!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Michael]

You do just get worse the more you right . And I repeat....

Feel free, Mr “Leonides” you don’t have to ask Sirs permission to use expletives. That’s swearing to you. I would hazard a guess it might be limited to “f****** dude”, losers etc etc. You have a very dull imagination.
Well anyway back to the matter at hand. Your reply was of the classic Uncle Tom. But it gets worse. You fall into the worse of right wing diatribe that usually come spouting from the arse of the most backward reactionary Republicans. Are you trying to be more American than the Americans? I don’t know what you regard as success. Maybe it’s having a millions of people living on the poverty line or a healthcare system that relies on blood supplies from drunken sodden homeless people. A very restrained superpower indeed! That very same superpower that bombed Vietnam into the dark ages: or supported death squads in South America. I think I prefer not to have many dealings with US thank you.
As a post -script. You really are stupid, if you think this administration was going to “nuke” the Arabs. Why would they loose the one asset, (oil if your having difficulty figuring it out) that keeps the US afloat. They neither care about those poor wretches that died in NY or for that matter those that died in Iraq today.

[Leonidas]

It is like throwing raw eggs on a concrete wall here.

You want to get a solution??
Well 1st try to get along with each other. Stop the blaming the GC's did this the TC's did that.

Stop blaming the world for your actions. The GC side has made MANY crusial mistakes starting with trying to modify the 1960's constitution. Not to mention aligning it's self with mother communist Russia.

Stop blaming the US and UK for your arrongant ways. If you don't want them involved so be it. Tell it as it is. At the same time accept that this is one world and like it or not they are the big players.

And for you who question my motives here. I was in Cyprus during the war. I ve seen what happened and I did not like it. My views though did not change because I became a US citizen. I felt the same then as I feel now.

GC's and TC's must put the past behind and go on with life.

"If you want to fly with Eagles stop hanging around with chicken."

Enough said
I m running out of eggs. And I know most of you are so stuborn I don t know why I am wasting my time here to help you see the other side.

Back to the jokes
Later and goodbye

[BirKibrisli]

And who ARE you to tell me what to do with my head? I stand tall and proud of this country.
Are you going to tell me that Saddam was a nice guy too? Are you going to say that they NEVER had WMDs either? Get real please. Thousands of Iraqis had died because of Saddam and his regim.

I am a human being and a citizen of this world,Leonidas.
There is something terribly wrong with the logic that says "I am going to save you from your tyrant...I will kill you all".The same logic that was used to save the Vietnamese from Communism. It failed then and it will fail again in iraq.For the simple reason that it is inhuman.

[Michael]

If you want to fly with Eagles stop hanging around with chicken."

If you don’t want to be mocked than a more adept metaphor might be advisable.

I am astounded that you believe that there were no US or UK involvement in our past or present woes? What you seem to imply is that we should accept that if we don’t cuddle up with our British or American friends then you can’t really blame them for trying to destroy our country?
Is that what you are saying?

[Piratis]

Are you going to say that they NEVER had WMDs either?

And are you still trying to tell us thay they had?

USA has WMD, and they are they only ones who used nuclear weapons. What should be the punishment for them?

[bg_turk]

Are you for real,Leonidas?
The USA response to Sept 11 was very restraint???
25 international criminals highjack planes and attack innocent civilians,and the USA goes and demolishes a country which had nothing to do with the attacks,and you call that very restrained???
Do you know how many men,women and children have been killed in Iraq so that the USA's thirst for revenge is satisfied???If I were you I would hang my head in shame,not boast about it...

Demolish a country? Men, women and children being killed?

Kibrisli, your perspective on the Iraqi war is definitely one sided and very extreme. Talk to a few Iraqi Kurds about their perspective and you will see how far from reality you are. Talk to families of the Americans, Turks, even Bulgarians, who have been beheaded by the so called "resisitance" and you will realize what you defend is terrorism.

It is clear to any fair minded person that the American intervention in Iraq was motivated by their desire to get hold of the countryies oil reserves, but by far this action is not as bloody and horrible as you are trying to make it to be. It has quite a few postitive sides too which in many instances outweigh the negatives by far.

[BirKibrisli]

bg_turk,
I don't know why you feel obliged to defend the actions of the USA every time someone criticises their actions.
Yes,so far at least 150,000 civilian Iraqi's have been killed as the direct result of the USA action. The USA took it upon itself,against the wishes of the UN to sort out Saddam (who I will never defend,of course he was a vile despot),and launch an illigal and immoral attach on a country and people who had nothing to do with September 11.
The country is now on the brink of civil war,largely due to the actions of the insurgents who are ruthless fanatical zealots who will stop at nothing to achieve their vile intend.But had the USA not did what she did these human extrement would not have had the opportunity to ply their trade openly.Being a superpower should bring with it a sense of immense responsibility and care for the downtroden and the weak.The USA shows non of these traits and selfishly goes about robbing the world of its natural resources,by hook or by crook.I am surprised that an obviously very intelligent and worldly person like yourself cannot see this...

[bg_turk]

Yes,so far at least 150,000 civilian Iraqi's have been killed as the direct result of the USA action.

Provide sources.
The number is more like 30,000 as stated by BodyCount.

The USA took it upon itself,against the wishes of the UN to sort out Saddam (who I will never defend,of course he was a vile despot),and launch an illigal and immoral attach on a country and people who had nothing to do with September 11.

Sept 11, was just a pretext, everybody knows what the real reasons are.

The country is now on the brink of civil war,largely due to the actions of the insurgents who are ruthless fanatical zealots who will stop at nothing to achieve their vile intend.But had the USA not did what she did these human extrement would not have had the opportunity to ply their trade openly.

Because Saddams oppression would have continued. Shall I remind you of the Halabja genocide?

Being a superpower should bring with it a sense of immense responsibility and care for the downtroden and the weak.The USA shows non of these traits and selfishly goes about robbing the world of its natural resources,by hook or by crook.I am surprised that an obviously very intelligent and worldly person like yourself cannot see this...

I'd rather prefer the USA as the superpower, rather than the USSR or China. It is the lesser evil of all.

[cypezokyli]

common bg_turk. 30000 lives are not a lot?
especially for someone who knows all the websites that people were unjistifiably killed.

you speak about the lesser evil of all. now put this down to the iraqi people. those 30000 are killed in just 3 years!!! iraq is about to brake up in three pieces. they have a civil war, (400 deaths in last week) and all neghboring countries are eager to get their share of the spoils. is that an improvement in comparison to saddams regime ??

and preciselly bc everybody knows who the real reasons were, thats why that invasion shouldnt have taken place.
it is even threatening to distabilise the whole region!!

why are you so afraid of china btw ?