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[Piratis]

bg_turk, so what you are saying is that the Nazi occupation of most of Europe was fine since the original residents were not ethnically cleansed?

The "trnc" is forced on us by the illegal occupation of a foreign power, much like the Nazis did when installing their governors in the territories they occupied. The only difference is that the Turks were even worst than the Nazis and they performed ethnic cleansing as well.

We, the great majority of this island never created or accepted any "trnc". This is why this puppet entity of Turkey is and will remain illegal.

[Piratis]

Pirastis, I dont want to live with people who are racist, hate my guys and the second they have the chance they try to kill every Turk on the island

ie Greek Junta, EOKA, Samsun, Grivas.......................

Theres nothing racist here, I just dont want to be persecuted and oppressed by Greeks just because of me being a Turk.

Your racists of the worst kind and should be deeply ashamed.

Yet more vague words and lame excuses. Grivas and Samson are dead and Greek Junta and EOKA do not exist for long time already.

Tell me how I am a "racists of the worst kind"?

I already explained why you are racist: you support the separation and discrimination of Cypriots based on their race even if that requires crimes like ethnic cleansing and human right violations.

Do you have any arguments about this?

Or you will just repeat your poem that Greek cypriots are bad and therefore you have the right to continue to commit crimes against them like you did for the most part of our history?

[bg_turk]

bg_turk, so what you are saying is that the Nazi occupation of most of Europe was fine since the original residents were not ethnically cleansed?

The "trnc" is forced on us by the illegal occupation of a foreign power, much like the Nazis did when installing their governors in the territories they occupied. The only difference is that the Turks were even worst than the Nazis and they performed ethnic cleansing as well.

We, the great majority of this island never created or accepted any "trnc". This is why this puppet entity of Turkey is and will remain illegal.

Your comparison between the Nazi and Turkish Cypriots does not add any strenggth to your argument, it simply serves to erode your credibility.

[Agios Amvrosios]

The TRNC has the capacity to fulfil its obligations towards the human rights of GCs even under the current circumstances and rest assured that it will do that.

so are you saying that it will allow 200,000 greek Cypriots to move back to their towns and villiges after March 22?

If this happens I'm running for the mayor of Kyrenia and I'll be putting in a bid for Kyrenia to host the special olympics

[kalamaras74]

LOL. And, they are going to remove the sign of the hand with the middle finger upturned from the bureau of Greek Cypriot properties in Northern Cyprus. Only time will tell.

We thought they would not get recognition and they are getting it from the State Department.

http://washingtontimes.com/world/200602 ... -8116r.htm

Go Condie. Go girl. Go Condie. Go girl.

Of course, they don't give a rat's ass about international law and they really have a lot of credence in unilateral occupations as solutions in the near east.

[Piratis]

Your comparison between the Nazi and Turkish Cypriots does not add any strenggth to your argument, it simply serves to erode your credibility.

I didn't compare the Nazis with Turkish Cypriots but with the military ruled Turkish regime.

The Turks did in Cyprus what the Nazis have done in Europe during WWII. The difference is that the Nazis went against powers such as UK, France, Russia and USA, while the Turks have attacked a small island who nobody cares much about.

Beyond that the similarities are obvious. Just like the Nazis have used lame excuses (one of which was the protection of German minorities) to attack and illegally occupy foreign countries and then installed their own illegal administrations in those countries, the Turks did exactly the same in Cyprus, and they even went a step further by committing the crime of ethnic cleansing.

As it was the case then when only the Nazis and their Axis allies were supporting those illegal actions, the same is with Cyprus today, were the Turks are the only ones to recognize their own pseudo puppet state on the land they illegally occupy.
The difference is that small Cyprus doesn't have the power of US/Russia etc, to fight back and liberate our country from the foreign occupation.

If you are offended by the comparison with the Nazis then stop acting like them and show respect to the independent and sovereign Republic of Cyprus.

If Germans could recognize that those actions were wrong, and today Germans, French, British, Polish etc have left the past behind and came together with respect to each other, then why can't Turks do the same by showing some respect to RoC, which will lead to peace and unity for all people in the region (and will allow turkey to be part of the EU family as well)?

[Michael]

bg_turk, so what you are saying is that the Nazi occupation of most of Europe was fine since the original residents were not ethnically cleansed?

The "trnc" is forced on us by the illegal occupation of a foreign power, much like the Nazis did when installing their governors in the territories they occupied. The only difference is that the Turks were even worst than the Nazis and they performed ethnic cleansing as well.

We, the great majority of this island never created or accepted any "trnc". This is why this puppet entity of Turkey is and will remain illegal.

Your comparison between the Nazi and Turkish Cypriots does not add any strenggth to your argument, it simply serves to erode your credibility.

How can you speak for the Turkish Cypriots? You’re a Bulgarian Turk, living legally (?) in the UK.

[bg_turk]

Your comparison between the Nazi and Turkish Cypriots does not add any strenggth to your argument, it simply serves to erode your credibility.

I didn't compare the Nazis with Turkish Cypriots but with the military ruled Turkish regime.

Which virtually all Turkish Cypriots support and owe their existence to. If there is anything to be any comparison with the Nazis it is the military rulers of Greece at the time, whcih oppressed greeks and did not hesitate to place the puppet Sampson regime on the island, whose aim was the extermination of the Turkish Cypriots from the island.

The Turks did in Cyprus what the Nazis have done in Europe during WWII. The difference is that the Nazis went against powers such as UK, France, Russia and USA, while the Turks have attacked a small island who nobody cares much about.

Note how you use the term Turk (an ethnic group) in par with the term Nazi (an extreme political ideology). This simply renders you a racist, since you equate every single turk to a nazi.

Beyond that the similarities are obvious. Just like the Nazis have used lame excuses (one of which was the protection of German minorities) to attack and illegally occupy foreign countries and then installed their own illegal administrations in those countries, the Turks did exactly the same in Cyprus, and they even went a step further by committing the crime of ethnic cleansing.

The Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, is not a nazi state, it is a democratic state whose government is elected by all Turkish Cypriots. It is a state which has shown its willingness for compromise through its acceptance of the Annan Plan and has proven its comitment to peaceful coexistance. A state which has obligations towards the human rights of Greek Cypriots, and which it will fulfil very soon.

As it was the case then when only the Nazis and their Axis allies were supporting those illegal actions, the same is with Cyprus today, were the Turks are the only ones to recognize their own pseudo puppet state on the land they illegally occupy.
The difference is that small Cyprus doesn't have the power of US/Russia etc, to fight back and liberate our country from the foreign occupation.

Yes you do not have the power to invade the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus and once again subjugate the Turkish Cypriots who today enjoy all their rights and are free from the opression of the past.

Piratis your arguments are those of a desperate person, who is trying to discredit the TRNC by invoking far fetched analogies. You tried to force a Europeam MP take the TRNC from his wall by comparing the flag of the TRNC to a swastika, and we all know what followed...

The TRNC will soon amends its laws to allow GCs to return, and apply to the courts of the "nazi":shock: state .

[Lala_Mustafa_Pasha]

The Greek Junta, EOKA, are great comparisons to Nazi;s.

The Nazi's had "The Final Solution", the Greeks had "The Akritos Plan"

The Nazi's stirred up racial hatred, convinced themselves Jews were to blame for every problem of the world and that they were inferior sub-humans and that the only solution was the kill every Jew in Germany.

The Greek Junta, Eoka, stirred up racial hatred, propoganda, lies convinced themselves Turks were sub-human inferior people and that they made the Island impure and should not allowed to live among Greek Cypriots and tried to Kill every Turk on the Island.

The Americans and other forces defeated the Nazi's in a war to liberate the Jews, Gypsies etc there are still today Nazi's, who claim that no Jews died, that its all anti-Nazi lies and propoganda and that the Americans and others are the real Bad Guys because they intervined to stop the Holocoust.

The Turkish Forces defeated the Greek Junta and Eoka Terrorists to liberate their Turkish people of the Island, some Greek Cypriots still claim today that no Turks were harmed and that its all anti-Greek propoganda and lies, they try to pretend the Turkish Forces are some kind of terrible monster for liberating their own Turkish people from a Holocoust.

The only difference being, Nazi's were demonised and German kids were taught the devastation they caused and to be ashamed of what happened and never to do anything like it again.

In Greek Schools theyre not taught to be ashamed of their crimes and accept what happened was a crime against humanity, no instead they brainwash kids to grow up and be like those Greek Cypriot beastly cowardly Junta and to admire them

They find racism perfectlly fine and dont even realise how disturbingly racist they are because they think their racism is normal ie they dont even realise theyre being Racist because thats what they are and it just seems the norm to them they dont even realise what theyre doing

Pirastis what are your views of "Chryssi Avgi" and "Hellenic Front"

One day Pirastis will be very ashamed of himself, maybe when he's an old man and trying to repent.

[Piratis]

bg_turk, the Nazis would say the exact same excuses as you do.

I made very clear that I was referring to the military ruled Turkish regime, and not to the Turks as race. During WWII the words German and Nazi were also used to mean the same thing very often.
The racist one is you, since you support fascists and Nazist practices of invading foreign countries and stealing their own land.

The Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, is not a nazi state, it is a democratic state whose government is elected by all Turkish Cypriots.

It is a Turkish Nazi state since the ones that vote in those "elections" are only a small minority, while the majority which doesn't agree with the fascist foreign occupation is other shot dead or ethnically cleansed. In every country that the Nazis ruled tradors existed that collaborated with them and helped them to continue their occupation. Cyprus is not an exception.

Piratis your arguments are those of a desperate person, who is trying to discredit the TRNC by invoking far fetched analogies

My analogies are very correct. Turkey is using the excuse of the Turkish minority to illegally occupy part of the independent Republic of Cyprus. Nothing more and nothing less.

Those who endorsed appeasement also viewed the Sudeten Germans as a suppressed minority living under unfriendly alien rule. Robert Parker, writing in the Fortnightly, regarded the Czechs as ruthless people bent on dominating the other nationalities under them. He claimed that the Czechs themselves were never oppressed under the humanitarian Habsburg rule, but yet they sought to subject their new German subjects. In his editorial letter in The Times (London), Archibald Ramsay described the Czechs as vicious exploiters of the Sudeten Germans and claimed that the vague Czech concessions were just a smoke screen for their continued oppression of the German minority. Parker claimed that they attempted to Czechize the Sudeten territories because of their jealousy of German economic dominance. The Czechs sought to weaken the Sudetens by economic and political oppression. This, combined with their anti-German foreign policy, was the reason for Hitler "hammering at Prague's door."
http://www.loyno.edu/history/journal/1993-4/Lilly.html