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[Lordo]

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...speaking of this amazing medical help we get, do you receive your care from a Public System; my care at the Montreal Neuro was/is flawless. Yet, it took a long time, six years, to get treatment at no 'cost' to me; (Canada at the moment), it works anyway.

In Switzerland we do not have a “Public Healthcare System”, but ONLY a private healthcare system, which is mandatory for everyone to have, from small babies to the very old, and no one can be denied the basic healthcare coverage from many of the healthcare insurance providers. There are no government run healthcare system at all. In return, we pay less taxes here so that people can choose the healthcare system they want for themselves and their families. Therefore, one does not need to wait years to get an operation which is not urgent, but necessary. One can get their operations done as soon as possible if they wish to do so.

However, the money you pay does not all go to healthcare, some go to shareholders as profit whether it is Insurance company or private hospital. Imagine if all the money you pay actually just went to healthcare.

The reason why we are suffering in UK is the fact that NHS has been having their finances cut if you consider the increase they are getting and inflation rate. Secondly it is being used as a cash cow by the Private sector and drug manufacturers.

In reality we have 100s of billions a year avoided tax revenues. They make no attempt to claw any of that back. Secondly they can separate the NHS funding if they wish and charge twice or three times of what they give to NHS and I am sure the public will pay. But they should also separate the defence spending and we should be allowed to decide whether we wish to contribute or not.

Now there is an idea for true democracy.

Although I cannot complain. I seem to be able to get a Doctors appointment the day I call and seem to get treatment at a hospital within just a few weeks. But I guess they do say that Healthcare is like a lottery and what you get depends on where you live. In one occasion I was sent to the hospital direct from the Doctor. Maybe I am lucky.

[repulsewarrior]

Bread Lordo, do you like bread? Cut it out of your diet (it is not a good habit); it's like quitting tobacco, not so easy: but you will most certainly feel better having done it.

50kg over my ideal weight i was a bruiser as a young man working as a construction labourer; but for a girl that i really liked, i would not have taken on what seemed a simple task; and it changed my life forever.

...a Keto diet is something to think about; you don't have to go to its extremes respecting its balance: good eating advice for everyone. Want pie, you will be eating a lot of protein and fat along with it, and you will be exercising accordingly.

Yes is yes and no is no, as a concept it is easy to understand; such as it is nowadays you get less than nothing for free.

[repulsewarrior]

@ Kiks, indeed. Such a system i imagine allows not for better healthcare per say since the treatment is (should always be) what's best for the patient; it is more about the hospital stay that is offered; for your comfort, or an infra-structure which extends to the patient a priority (in testing, e.g.), a greater sense of care in their care. There are "Health Clubs", (as well as Insurance,) in Canada for this greater care, having paid their membership fee.

...can you walk into any health facility and get the treatment they provide; is your healthcare limited, some facilities exclusive to particular policy holders?

...@ Lordo, while on the subject of finance, i believe that all profits from Casinos and Lotteries should go to Health Care. (What is gambling responsibly?) It is hard for me to believe that such a mass of money cannot finance Public Health; our vices at least demonstrably good for something, and i would like to buy a lottery ticket once in a while but i don't for this reason.

[Lordo]

Bread Lordo, do you like bread? Cut it out of your diet (it is not a good habit); it's like quitting tobacco, not so easy: but you will most certainly feel better having done it.

50kg over my ideal weight i was a bruiser as a young man working as a construction labourer; but for a girl that i really liked, i would not have taken on what seemed a simple task; and it changed my life forever.

...a Keto diet is something to think about; you don't have to go to its extremes respecting its balance: good eating advice for everyone. Want pie, you will be eating a lot of protein and fat along with it, and you will be exercising accordingly.

Yes is yes and no is no, as a concept it is easy to understand; such as it is nowadays you get less than nothing for free.

Indeed, that was the first thing I looked at and it had to go but I do have a few crackers instead. I am sticking to Cypriot/English/Italian diet but I am managing with 75% of what I used to eat and eventually it will go down to 50%. I quit cigarettes back in early 80s. I tried it 4 times and kept starting again but the 5th time it worked.

By re-adjusting portions, I am have been able to eat carbs at a reduced rate. I shall reduce proteins by 25% and see where it takes me. I will also increase walking and exercising to 1.5 hour per day. I have a dog so that is given that I have to walk.

Just had a look at keto diet. The claim is 6 kg in 4 weeks. According to healthcare professionals more than 1 kg per week is not good. In any case I managed 7 kg in 8 weeks doing what I do. The important aspect is I can carry on doing what I am doing, so I make sure I do not gain it back. The next 7 kgs will not be that easy but I am happy to lose half or even a quarter of a Kg per week going forward. So long as the trend is down.

Interestingly the way I do it, I am losing weight and it is costing less too.

[Lordo]

@ Kiks, indeed. Such a system i imagine allows not for better healthcare per say since the treatment is (should always be) what's best for the patient; it is more about the hospital stay that is offered; for your comfort, or an infra-structure which extends to the patient a priority (in testing, e.g.), a greater sense of care in their care. There are "Health Clubs", (as well as Insurance,) in Canada for this greater care, having paid their membership fee.

...can you walk into any health facility and get the treatment they provide; is your healthcare limited, some facilities exclusive to particular policy holders?

...@ Lordo, while on the subject of finance, i believe that all profits from Casinos and Lotteries should go to Health Care. (What is gambling responsibly?) It is hard for me to believe that such a mass of money cannot finance Public Health; our vices at least demonstrably good for something, and i would like to buy a lottery ticket once in a while but i don't for this reason.

Nice idea but corporations will not allow it. It is far better to separate Healthcare and Education including Universities to be financed and free at the point of use. Most people will not have a problem with that. Democracy is an illusion as we have seen what Labour has done so far. The first people they attacked were pensioners on a basic state pension and Winter fuel allowance of 300 pounds per year, regarding the so called "Black Hole", when there are people who put in a million into a pension fund and withdraw 25% tax free. I gather they may cap that to no more than 100,000. What will these poor pensioners do with only 100,000?
In any case gambling fraternity is taxed on their profits but like all corporations they can easily hide their profits. I think it is called skimming in the casinos. They do very well even in Northern Cyprus.

[Kikapu]

@ Kiks, indeed. Such a system i imagine allows not for better healthcare per say since the treatment is (should always be) what's best for the patient; it is more about the hospital stay that is offered; for your comfort, or an infra-structure which extends to the patient a priority (in testing, e.g.), a greater sense of care in their care. There are "Health Clubs", (as well as Insurance,) in Canada for this greater care, having paid their membership fee.

...can you walk into any health facility and get the treatment they provide; is your healthcare limited, some facilities exclusive to particular policy

Ones basic healthcare coverage only allows them to visit hospitals in their Canton of residence. One can pay small additional coverage per month which allow the patients to go to any hospital in Switzerland. One can choose a private room, two patient room or general, which is the lowest cost that may have 4 or more patients in the room. Private coverage is the most expensive. Unless is an emergency, one’s family doctor sends the patient to the hospital one wishes to go to based on their health insurance coverage which they pay. Having the lowest cost coverage does not mean one gets lower quality treatment. Older one gets, more their premiums go up.

[Lordo]

@ Kiks, indeed. Such a system i imagine allows not for better healthcare per say since the treatment is (should always be) what's best for the patient; it is more about the hospital stay that is offered; for your comfort, or an infra-structure which extends to the patient a priority (in testing, e.g.), a greater sense of care in their care. There are "Health Clubs", (as well as Insurance,) in Canada for this greater care, having paid their membership fee.

...can you walk into any health facility and get the treatment they provide; is your healthcare limited, some facilities exclusive to particular policy

Ones basic healthcare coverage only allows them to visit hospitals in their Canton of residence. One can pay small additional coverage per month which allow the patients to go to any hospital in Switzerland. One can choose a private room, two patient room or general, which is the lowest cost that may have 4 or more patients in the room. Private coverage is the most expensive. Unless is an emergency, one’s family doctor sends the patient to the hospital one wishes to go to based on their health insurance coverage which they pay. Having the lowest cost coverage does not mean one gets lower quality treatment. Older one gets, more their premiums go up.

This just shows how precious our NHS is. Affordability is not an issue.