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where did the tcs originate from?

Postby ausbroker » Tue Feb 14, 2006 8:42 am

this is a question that i think i know the answer
too, but i will not post it. instead i want a history buff
{theres plenty on here :roll: } to answer me


so the q one more time
WHERE DID THE TCS COME FROM? :)
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Postby growuptcs » Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:10 am

Which one was in Cyprus first. The chicken or the egg?
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Postby ausbroker » Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:25 am

i know that throughout history there where greeks there,
but when did the tcs come?
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Postby cypezokyli » Tue Feb 14, 2006 10:49 am

ehm... what kind of an answer do you expect ?
and asking when... well any history book will give you the answer.
we had already a kind of discussion like that
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=4658

i hope, your point is not : we came here first so you should get the hell out of here :wink:
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Postby Alexios » Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:37 am

I really have no indepth knowledge as to the origins of T/Cs in Cyprus and i welcome any recommended independent sources for information.
I want however to share a little experience with you.
When i was a little boy(ages ago:):) i spent a lot of my time at the house of my childless aunt and Godmother.Many times whilst there,my Godmother was visited by a T/C lady of about the same age as her.Especially in the summer,this lady was there atleast twice a week.She came from the nearby village of Chrysochou.I really dont remember her turkish name but,my Godmother occasionally used to call her Maria!!.I didnt pay much notice at the time.The people in the region of north westen Paphos prior to 1974 payed little attention to politics...The 1974 events took place and the lady never appeared again.I left Cyprus in 1977 and came back in 1986.After a few visits to my Godmother,memories came back and i remembered Maria...so i asked her why she called her that.She said to me,that Maria, was a cryptochristian and so was most of the village of Arodes where her family came from before marrying in Chrysochou.She also told me that in older times the people of Arodes though Muslim,carried out christian ceremonies as well as attending muslim ceremonies, especially funerals wherby they would bury the deceiced in the muslim tradition first but afterwards bring an orthodox priest to carry out a christian sanctus.!!
I dont know if this was a typical situation in Cyprus, but having asked older people i guess it was a rather common situation many years ago in the specific area.
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Postby Piratis » Tue Feb 14, 2006 12:44 pm

All Cypriots are the same from a genetic point of view because we come from the same kind of "mix". Most Turkish Cypriots are Greek Cypriots that became muslims during the Ottoman rule since being mislim offered several advantages.
That is not to say that there is no original blood in the Cypriot mix. There is, but it is probably about the same in both GCs and TCs.

The GC/TC conflict is basically due to the fact that Muslims Cypriots were treated preferably by the Ottomans and the British. These outsiders by splitting Cypriots into 2 and giving to a minority of them more privileges than to the majority they managed to turn Cypriots against each other to serve their own interests.
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Postby Lala_Mustafa_Pasha » Wed Feb 15, 2006 2:16 am

We are from Turkmen Tribes, migrated after the Ottomans took the Island and we were settled there to spread Turkmen ways and because of the Tribal structure to increase in numbers and provide an influence.

I have alot of material, resources and knowledge on this, if you wish to find out your free to ask.
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Postby Agios Amvrosios » Wed Feb 15, 2006 3:10 am

WHo cares where they originated from they should still be treated as everyone else. One man One Vote. Not one turkish cypriot vote = 4 greek cypriot votes.
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Postby ausbroker » Wed Feb 15, 2006 3:33 am

ok lala i would like some more info.
bacause i thought they were "gc" that converted in islam
back in the early 19oos. and if that was the case why the hell do
they still hate eachother :roll: {not for argument}

but yeah this is not an we were here first argument.
its a history lesson :D
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Postby TheCabbie » Wed Feb 15, 2006 5:29 am

"The Turks ruled Cyprus from 1571, when 20,000 Muslims were brought to the island along with a military garrison of 3600."

Of course that doesn't say exactly where the Muslims came from
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