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[BirKibrisli]

LMPasha,
Thanks for all that information.You obviously know your Turkic history.
My comments and knowledge starts from the Ottoman times approximately(around 1200ad).That is all we ever studied in high school in Cyprus.(I am a graduate of Lefkosha Turk Erkek Lisesi,no longer a single sex school i believe).

Will you answer this one question,honestly please:
After all that I have said,and after all that you have said,how much do you think modern Turks resemble (genetically and culturally), say, the Oguz Turks???

Now answer this: Given our history in Cyprus from 1571,how much do we (TCs) resemble the same Oguz Turks???

[TheCabbie]

Greek Cypriots were never SLAVES in the OTTOMAN EMPIRE! NEVER

Maybe not exactly slaves but did you know that Greek Cypriots were only allowed to wear Black Vrakas, this was so the Ottomans could identify them more easily.

A bit like the yellow stars and coloured patches used by the Nazis.

Am I the only one that finds this kind of blind belief disturbing?

No, but if you're coming here to live you'd better get used to it

[Michael]

Those are not from the universities themselves, but people that published their books using the universities publishing houses.

Oh, so before they were "FYROM" propaganda(what is that? do you mean the Republic of Macedonia?), now they are just using those universitye publishing houses? All these American Universities must be hellbent on publishing this anti-greek propaganda. hehehehe

Everybody knows that Alexander the Great is Greek, except the ones that have no civilization for themselves and they are trying to steal the civilization of others.

Greeks have made so many achievements that the Greek civilization is taught in every university in the world. Alexander the Great was only a tiny part of this great civilization. How many universities do you know offering courses about the "Turkish civilization"? Does such thing even exist?

Keep your eyes shut proud child of Hellene.
Glorifying hellenic culture by stealing the Macedonian History is a very good way to pursuade other people of your civility

Macedonia is Greek, it has always been. The slavs, turks etc have not even been around at that time!!

What your motherland failed to achieve in Cyprus, she achieved in Macedonia - she hellenized the region and ethnicall cleansed all of its original inhabitants.

The only reason Ancient Macedonia is claimed to be Greek today is not because there are good historical reasons for that, it is because the Greek regime needs to somehow justify the ethnic cleansing of 51% of the region of Macedonia of the Slavic Macedonians. Greece is desperate to prove Macedonia Greek, otherwise what justification would she have had to invade that land and wipe it out of its slavs.

why do spend so long on this crap when your posts could be condensed to the word BOLLOCKS.

[cypezokyli]

1 thing in common, theyre all Turks, obviously you can see different races and ethnicities but this means nothing, they speak Turkish, feel Turkish and therefore are Turks equal to me to Bg_Turk and in our "Turk Millet" Nation

Cypezokyli, exactly this is what I am saying, the cultures have fused so much that today there are many similarities between, Balkans, Turkey, Greece, Middle East, Caucases, Azerbaycan, even Central Asia.

So all this nonsense that Turks are culturless, Greeks don't exist is nonsense as there has been a fusion and what has been created is wonderfull and beautiful.

i dont know perhaps i am wrong, but i see a difference in the first post and the second. i agree with the second, while i disagree with the first. the ottoman gave AND took customs. and if one is really interested in observing culture, costumes, and dances a topological approach is much more senseful from a "national" /"nationalistic" one. many of the similarities u mention between tcs and azeris , ( let me add bw gcs and north greece greeks, were created) are a creation ofthe last century. a national approach to culture has its limitation, bc culture is not black and white as they taught us to believe, after borders were drawn in the balkans. so i can tell you about greek dances and costumes, that in thrace are similar to bulgaria, in agean are similar to turkey, the dances of christian / greek pontians are the same with the muslim/turk pontians, the island from the ionian sea have a lot of italian influence, if you listen to macedonian music you will think that its brekovic, and tc and gc music dances and costumes are the same. i can bet you that if we take turkey, will have the same results.
Now the idea of a "greek" , or a "turkish" culture is a creation of wars, borders and nationalism. so i agree, with the beautiful fusion, but i disagree with the great nation similarities

[bg_turk]

A quiz about Macedonia:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4687276.stm

[Michael]

WHY DONT YOU GET A LIFE. NOBODY BUT YOU AND THE RETARDS THAT LIVE IN TITO'S LITTLE SATRAP BELIEVE THIS CRAP.
WHY DO YOU HAVE THE UNION JACK AS YOUR LOGO. BLAIR MAY "LIKE YOU" BUT MOST ENGLISH AND EUROPEANS WOULD RATHER CUT THEIR PRIVATES WITH A RUSTY BLADE RATHER THEN SEE TURKS AS NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOURS.

[Michael]

ANYWAY WAS KEMEL WHATS HIS FACE "TURKISH". HE LOOKS MORE MONGOLIAN. WHICH IS MUCH WHAT TURKISH PEOPLE ARE. SORRY, NO SUCH THING AS TURKISH YOUR ALL MONGOLS. WHY DONT YOU ACCEPT YOUR ASIAN ROOTS GO BACK THERE AND LET THE REST OF US GET ON WITH OUR LIVES.

[bg_turk]

WHY DONT YOU GET A LIFE. NOBODY BUT YOU AND THE RETARDS THAT LIVE IN TITO'S LITTLE SATRAP BELIEVE THIS CRAP.
WHY DO YOU HAVE THE UNION JACK AS YOUR LOGO. BLAIR MAY "LIKE YOU" BUT MOST ENGLISH AND EUROPEANS WOULD RATHER CUT THEIR PRIVATES WITH A RUSTY BLADE RATHER THEN SEE TURKS AS NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOURS.

You mean the "CRAP" that BBC published?

I hope you answered question #8 in that quiz correctly, or did you get it wrong?

Concerning my Brittish neighbours, we are getting along fine, thanks.

[Michael]

NO I MEAN YOUR CRAP. I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE AS I HAVE SEEN AROUND EUROPE TURKS TEND TO LIVE IN GHETTOS

[Michael]

SO IS KEMEL FORM MONGOLIA OR NOT?