WoW, they really did brainwash you at Greek School lol
1st. The quotations apparently from "Alexander the Great" are a COMPLETE FRAUD, as the word GREEK was first used by Romans and we all know the Romans came a long time after Alex
Strahd
Fact for you...
After1400 BC, the first Greeks came to the island, Mycenaen merchants, who started the Hellenisation of the island.
1. This is 3600 years old
2. The word GREEK hadnt been invented
3. There was never a Greek or Hellenic state, there were seperate nations, Sparta etc etc
Oh by the way Alexander was Macedonian and because Macedonia was part of Greece he was Greek...
Sorry but it was Alex who ruled and the Hellenic states were PART OF MACEDONIA.
Oh and you were talking about Macedonians
Lets see what they say,
BIG Greek Lie # 1
by Risto Stefov
"Modern Greeks are direct descendents of the Ancient Greeks"
(The greatest victims of Greek lies are the Greeks themselves)http://www.maknews.com/html/articles/st ... fov55.htmlBIG Greek Lie # 2
by Risto Stefov
"The Koine Language is Greek"
(Modern Greeks are victims of their own making)http://www.maknews.com/html/articles/st ... fov59.htmlTHERES A WHOLE LOAD OF MORE LIES EXPOSED, YOU SHOULD HAVE A READ,
Note
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After nearly a decade of contemplation as to which language to use, Greek authorities finally decided to adopt the Koine language as the liturary language of their new nation. They disregarded all vibrant and living peoples' languages in favour of the ancient administrative and commercial Koine.
Unfortunately, after two millennium of evolution, the modern version of Koine contained many foreign elements and proved distasteful to the Greek purists who wanted a pure language which was close to those of the ancient City States.
After nearly a century of using Koine, the purists finally got their chance to replace it. Their new choice was an old dead Attic language used by the ancient Athenians 2,500 years ago. The Greeks called their new language the Catharevoussa for its linguistic purity.
Unfortunately, this language had been dead for two thousand years and the Greek literary world which was used to the bastardized impure Koine, found it very difficult to understand and impossible to express emotion. Its use was finally terminated in the 1970's in favour of the bastardized Koine (Dimotiki).
For those Greeks who insist that all ancient Greeks spoke a dialect of the same language, here are some simple and common everyday words in English, Ancient Attic and Modern Koine;
English
Catharevoussa
(Ancient Attic)
Dimotiki (Koine)
Horse
Ipos
Alogo
Donkey
Onos
Gaidaros
Hen
Ornitha
Kota
Goat
Ega
Gida (Katsika)
Kid (baby goat)
Erifi
Katsiki
Bread
Artos
Psomi
THE TRUTH: The Koine language belongs to all the Eastern Mediterranean people and not just modern Greece.
Modern Greece took the Koine language, which by right belongs to all the Eastern Mediterranean people, for itself and now calls it Greek.
Just because Greece adopted Koine as the literary language for its modern nation, it does not make it exclusively Greek. Koine evolved as the language of administration and commerce in the entire Eastern Mediterranean and as such belongs to all the people in the Eastern Mediterranean world.
If anyone should claim credit for Koine's effectiveness and long survival it should be the ancient Macedonians who insisted on using it for centuries
Also you quoted that the Island of Cyprus had what you termed as "Greek Gods"
BIG Greek Lie # 3
by Risto Stefov
“The Ancient ‘Greek gods’ were Greek”
Agios
The DNA of Greek and Turkish Cypriots is almost identical. How do you think this was achieved if it wasn't for assimilation. Think of it this way Turkish Cypriot DNA is closer to Greek Cypriot DNA than it is to the Mongol DNA of Ghengis Khan.
More ignorant nonsense.
1. Where are the DNA tests, who took them, what biased is used, what is the sample size etc
2. This is likely as we mixed with many of your woman, it was permissable for us to Marry your woman but our woman couldn not marry non-Muslims ie DNA tests of our woman are more accurate.
3. As you mixed with us you picked up our traits and so while you think your "Pure Ancient Greek" infact alot of you have some Turkish genes in you hehe
4. Again the common mistake of bringing "race and ethnicity" into the equation, Turks had no notion of racial purity or even Race for that matter.
It is well documented that among the common Turkic features there Turk tribes in which blue eyed and red haired people were present, there was also dark skinned tribes etc Race and Ethnicity didn;t mean anything.
To understand this you have yo read and learn about our Nation/Millet system and the Codes of the Clans and their Laws.
At those times it was tribal, Turk tribes moved in the Largest numbers for eg the Legendary Oguz numbered over 5 million, as such a HUGE clan was on the move, many smaller clans and tribes joined and adopted Turkishness, therefore there land was protected, they were protected by the Turks as they had become Turks and they could share in all the wealth.
So many ethnically Non-Turk tribes joined the Turks, this makes them a Turk to us, as if you speak Turkche, say your a Turk/Feel Turk and are Muslim then your a Turk. Once your a Turk your a full Turk, its not like a Black or Indian trying to become English and fighting for acceptance, once your a Turk you were entitled to every right a Turk was and you were treated an equal and could rise to any position. This is what made "becomming" a Turk very attractive.
Also especially in the Great Jihad of the Legendary Oguz, many many Arab and other Muslim tribes joined and became united to the Turks.
Untill you realise what it is to be a Turk, you'll always find it hard to understand but its a beautiful system which is all embracing and accepting.
For eg, My Uncle look very dark, you may mistake him for looking like a Dark Arab Egyption, while my neice has Blonde hair and blue eyes.
This makes absolutely no difference, as being a Turk is not determined by skin colour or ancient ethnicity, something Europe hasnt yet been able to grasp.
Also, you say "Mongol"? now Turks are Turks and Mongols Mongols, Genghiz had many Turk tribes along with his Mongol tribes.
When the Golden Horde settled in Central Asia they were over-run by the huge number of Turks, the Mongols got Turkified and Islamified and as the Uygur Turks were responsible for the Mongol Administrations (scribes, writting, accounting, diplomacy etc) they took charge from the inside, the Turk armies then were able to in control of the Mongol hordes thanks to the Clever Uygur Turks. The Mongols as they had becommed Turkified were now Turks.
This is why the common mistake of thinking Mongols are Turks or vica-Versa comes from, we have mixed and come from originally quite close regions.
For eg, the Babur Empire, is called the Mughal in the West, however, Babur was a Turk, spoke Turkish, wrote the Babur-Nama in Turkche, said his people are Turks and ruled half of India.
European historians confused by how Turks could be in China, India, Turkestan, Middle East and Balkans all at once assumed that it may be a Mughal Empire but now its fully agreed it was Turk