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[Piratis]

i am talking about natives of Cyprus who converted to Islam when Islam spread to Cyprus.

I am not aware of any mass conversion of Cypriots to Islam before the Ottoman rule. Are you?

[rolo]

Piratis


you are aware of mass conversions under Ottoman rule then?

[Piratis]

Not mass in the sense of 10s of thousands converting in a day. However during the Ottoman rule of 3 centuries gradually many Cypriots (Greek and others) were forced to convert to Islam because Muslims were treated better and had more rights. When the Ottoman rule ended many converted back to christianity. Even until recently there were many Turkish Cypriots that had Greek as their native language.
I remember an old member (mehmet) who told us that this was the case with his own grandmother. (of course this is something the Turkish nationalists try to eliminate, as well as the scientific reports that prove that the DNA of Greek and Turkish Cypriot is very similar)

[rolo]

Piratis


When you say forced to convert, do you mean tortured like the Spaniards enforced their Christianity?


i totally agree with you and your friend Mehmet about the DNA. Moreover id go so far as to say that there probably are tens of thousands of tcs today with greek ancestry.


however i cant agree that only 100 tcs were killed under the Makarios years.

[2fan]

Not mass in the sense of 10s of thousands converting in a day. However during the Ottoman rule of 3 centuries gradually many Cypriots (Greek and others) were forced to convert to Islam because Muslims were treated better and had more rights. When the Ottoman rule ended many converted back to christianity. Even until recently there were many Turkish Cypriots that had Greek as their native language.
I remember an old member (mehmet) who told us that this was the case with his own grandmother. (of course this is something the Turkish nationalists try to eliminate, as well as the scientific reports that prove that the DNA of Greek and Turkish Cypriot is very similar)

After living next to each other for about a 1000 years would you be surprised if mainland greeks and turks shared some of the same DNA?

[Piratis]

When you say forced to convert, do you mean tortured like the Spaniards enforced their Christianity?

No. I already said what I mean forced. Christians had to pay much more taxes, their testimony was not accepted in the court etc. In general being Cristian meant being second class with less rights and more responsibilities. This is why many people changed their religion.

After living next to each other for about a 1000 years would you be surprised if mainland greeks and turks shared some of the same DNA?

No. But GCs and TCs DNA is much more common than GCs and Greeks or TCs and Turks. (or Turks and Greeks)

[Agios Amvrosios]

It was 100 years ago, also it spread Anti-Turk sentiment which fuelled Greek Nationalists, after which they used in-humane methods of barbarism to slaughter innocent Turkish Cypriots.

Agios, Turks had over 35% of the most prosperous wealthy land in Cyprus, which we lost.

Stop pretending you were hard done by, your viscious Genocidal Junta raped and burned our villages and occupied OUR land.

Dont throw stones if you have a glass house.

Lala cuzin you are not dealing with the question you are posting more and more vague irrelevant crap. Forget ethnic greeks who were ethnically cleansed by the turks this topic is about the other Turkey ethnically cleansed and how Turkey proposes to justify this?

You are still hung up irrelevant crap about some bloke who ate a bulgarian

[Agios Amvrosios]

DO you guys see what BG turk is saying ?
in a nut shell "some Bloke with no connection to Cyprus ate a bulgarian and by deductive reasoning that justifies the ethnic cleansing of Maronite, Armenian, Latin Cypriots."

[Lala_Mustafa_Pasha]

Again Agios

The bloodshed continued on the island for 11 years after that Christmas, but the world had now lost interest. Those 11 years were hell on earth for the Turkish Cypriots, starved, hounded from pillar to post by the now all-Greek authorities, and pursued by the emergent Greek Cypriot National Guard led by mainland Greek officers. And where they had owned 35 percent of the land, mostly the best agricultural acreage, they were now squeezed into three percent of it, spread across the island in tiny enclaves. The Greeks of Cyprus had attempted genocide against their fellow citizens, the Turks, and had failed. Eleven years later, they tried again.

The Cyprus Turks were still in bondage, deprived of all their human rights, surviving on handouts from the Turkish government, their lives with no apparent future. Makarios, meanwhile, had quarrelled with the new Greek generals' junta which had replaced the Colonels' junta that had ruled Greece from 1967 to 1973. The result of this was that while Makarios, Clerides et al were preparing the second, definitive, Final Solution of the "Turkish problem," namely another genocide offensive, the Athens junta led by General Dimitrios Ioannides was preparing to solve its `iYlakarios problem."

The Genocide Files


Genocide By Harry Scott Gibbons

Go buy the book.

Our land has been robbed, you gained land, ungreatfull people.

You've all been Turkified, Greeks often tell tales that they were lighter before the Turks came lol.

Turks were permissable to marry Greek woman, Turkish woman were not permissable to marry Greek men, therefore our mothers sides are more likely to contain less Greek DNA, however, especially on fathers side theres alot of mixing

Also many Greeks accepted Islam, they were not forced it was out of free will.

The taxes you talk about are to PAY for your Courts, Law, Officials and maintanance of Churches, Religous Orders etc so stop making such a big fuss as if we didnt tax YOU WOULDN'T BE CHRISTIAN TODAY because there would be no Christian instutions running.

If a Greek accepted Islam, even still this is true, they were outcasted by Greek society, however, the Turks allowed these people to chill with the Turks, mix and become Turks, I mean the Greeks already labelled them Turks so all that had to happen was them to learn Turkish and accept they were a Turk and we'd all be happy.

[Michael]

Yawn. More Tales of Lala.