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[Svetlana]

Perhaps you both should act in a civilised manner and stick to the topic.

Lana

[Agios Amvrosios]

RE BG Turk Nobody here cares about the Balkans 200 years ago My question is why did Turkey ethnically cleanse everybody who wasn't a turk from Cyprus including ethnic minorities who made up less one per cent in some cases. Listen to svetlana and stop flooding this topic with irrelevant stuff please open a new topic and flood it with drawrings of all the cannabals you like.

This topic is:

Why does Turkey continue its on going ethnic cleansing of not only the ethnic Greek majority which made up 82% but every other tiny ethnic minority, except for a couple of british retirees?

So far al that has been posted in answer to this topic is a cartoon from BG Turk of somebody biting this other poor bastard on the face.


Does turkey see all non ethnic Turks who are from the occupied areas as a threat to the turkish ethnic minority, even when the other enthic groups probably wouldn't make up even 1% combined?

The Answer is Turkey's occupation is all about one thing: Its a land grab using ethnic cleansing. THe Ethnic cleansing of the Maronites,Armenian's and Latins is just one more factor which shows that any pretext Turkey tries to use cannot be seen as credible.

[Lala_Mustafa_Pasha]

Agios
RE BG Turk Nobody here cares about the Balkans 200 years ago My question is why did Turkey ethnically cleanse everybody who wasn't a turk from Cyprus including ethnic minorities who made up less one per cent in some cases.

It was 100 years ago, also it spread Anti-Turk sentiment which fuelled Greek Nationalists, after which they used in-humane methods of barbarism to slaughter innocent Turkish Cypriots.

Agios, Turks had over 35% of the most prosperous wealthy land in Cyprus, which we lost.

Stop pretending you were hard done by, your viscious Genocidal Junta raped and burned our villages and occupied OUR land.

Dont throw stones if you have a glass house.

[rolo]

Agios

do you have any idea of how many Brits live happy lives in the north?

go on guess.......twelve? 17?.....243?... keep going keep going..



Brits beware,.........the turks are coming and according to some, they are ethnically cleansing.

[Piratis]

Agios, Turks had over 35% of the most prosperous wealthy land in Cyprus, which we lost.

When? During the Ottoman rule? Because during the British rule and after the Turkish Cypriots didn't own even half that.

If during the Ottoman rule the Ottomans were giving to their own kind the land, taking it away from their Greek slaves, it is only fair that after their rule had ended that the Turkish Cypriots would receive only what proportionately belong to them. Don't you think?

You can say 35%-50%-75% and claim that Turkish Cypriots were the rich landlords of Cyprus. But even you know that this is an outright lie with absolutely no basis.

[rolo]

Piratis

who is to say that present day tcs are not descended from aborigonal cypriots who converted to Islam.

do they not have the same rights?
do they not have the right to chose their own religions?

[Lala_Mustafa_Pasha]

Pirastis, what on Earth have they been teaching you at Greek school, we didnt enslave the Greeks they WERE ALREADY ENSLAVED BY THE VENETIANS, we freed you, gave you equal rights, gave your church power (it was deemed HERETIKS by the Venetians) and allowed Greeks to speak their language and prosper.


YOu need to read alot more my friend

The bloodshed continued on the island for 11 years after that Christmas, but the world had now lost interest. Those 11 years were hell on earth for the Turkish Cypriots, starved, hounded from pillar to post by the now all-Greek authorities, and pursued by the emergent Greek Cypriot National Guard led by mainland Greek officers. And where they had owned 35 percent of the land, mostly the best agricultural acreage, they were now squeezed into three percent of it, spread across the island in tiny enclaves. The Greeks of Cyprus had attempted genocide against their fellow citizens, the Turks, and had failed. Eleven years later, they tried again.

The Cyprus Turks were still in bondage, deprived of all their human rights, surviving on handouts from the Turkish government, their lives with no apparent future. Makarios, meanwhile, had quarrelled with the new Greek generals' junta which had replaced the Colonels' junta that had ruled Greece from 1967 to 1973. The result of this was that while Makarios, Clerides et al were preparing the second, definitive, Final Solution of the "Turkish problem," namely another genocide offensive, the Athens junta led by General Dimitrios Ioannides was preparing to solve its `iYlakarios problem."

The Genocide Files


Genocide By Harry Scott Gibbons

Buy the book and have a read, you'll get quite a SHOCK.

Our land was robbed when your Genocidal Barbarian Junta came to exterminate us.

My families home was among those robbed, razed to the ground and our land occupied.

When our people are more educated about these facts and grow in properity and economic power, we can start making demands for our land to be returned aswell.

Soon were gonna bring our case for our land to be returned and I'm gonna boot out those animals who burnt our house down

[Piratis]

who is to say that present day tcs are not descended from aborigonal cypriots who converted to Islam.

This is probably the case. But "aboriginal Cypriots" didn't exist as such when the Ottomans came. They had mixed with the rest of the population long time before and they were what we are, Greek Cypriots. So you can say that most TCs were GCs that converted to Islam.

do they not have the same rights?
do they not have the right to chose their own religions?

Are you talking about today or during the Ottoman rule.

If you talk about today then definitely they have the same rights and the right to choose religion. Who claimed the opposite???

If you talk about the Ottoman rule, then those freedoms didn't exist unfortunately. Christians had to pay 5 times more taxes, their testimony was not accepted in courts etc. So many people were forced to become Muslims.

[rolo]

Piratis

i am talking about natives of Cyprus who converted to Islam when Islam spread to Cyprus.

[Piratis]

Pirastis, what on Earth have they been teaching you at Greek school, we didnt enslave the Greeks they WERE ALREADY ENSLAVED BY THE VENETIANS, we freed you

Freed? Like when people die and go to paradise you mean?

Throughout the period of Venetian rule, Ottoman Turks raided and attacked at will. In 1489, the first year of Venetian control, Turks attacked the Karpas Peninsula, pillaging and taking captives to be sold into slavery. In 1539 the Turkish fleet attacked and destroyed Limassol. Fearing the ever-expanding Ottoman Empire, the Venetians had fortified Famagusta, Nicosia, and Kyrenia, but most other cities were easy prey.

In the summer of 1570, the Turks struck again, but this time with a full-scale invasion rather than a raid. About 60,000 troops, including cavalry and artillery, under the command of Lala Mustafa Pasha landed unopposed near Limassol on July 2, 1570, and laid siege to Nicosia. In an orgy of victory on the day that the city fell--September 9, 1570--20,000 Nicosians were put to death, and every church, public building, and palace was looted.

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?f ... CID+cy0017)

Lala, unlike you I do not deny the facts. Yes "Those 11 years were hell on earth for the Turkish Cypriots", but thats only half the story since the TCs had the TMT terrorist organization that did exactly the same crimes against Greek Cypriots. Both GCs and TCs had about the same number of casualties during that time.

So I do not deny the crimes of GCs during those 11 years.

On the other hand, you do not accept the crimes of TMT during the same period (maybe you even support their crimes!!), you tell us that the Ottomans had liberated us (!!!), and should I guess that you also support that the Turkish invasion that killed 6000 Greek Cypriots and performed ethnic cleansing over 1/3rd of the island was a "peace operation" according to you?