cyprusgrump wrote:
You keep repeating ‘Newton’s Laws of Motion' but I suspect you don’t really understand them nor do you have an explanation of what you think really happened.
(Wow, I managed to hide my ignorance all the 40+ years I used the laws of Physics on an almost daily basis and no body ever found out I knew nothing about the subject! )
I think you’re suggesting that under the eyes of the thousands of people that worked in those buildings, the visitors, the security, the delivery men, etc. a team of Demolition Experts wired the building with thousands of explosive charges, linked with miles of Detonation Cord. Yet nobody noticed anything odd… Not one person?
Cast your mind back to the first attempt to blow up one of the towers. In the later investigation they realise that had the truck with the explosives in, been just 2m closer to the column the chances are it would have probably collapsed that side of the building.
It was obvious then that if it happened again and the attackers used an aircraft instead of a truck which they can stop from entering the area. it could collapse in any direction. They had the foresight to see what could happen ......... the devastation would have been devastating and anywhere in a 360 Deg radius. It was a wake up call, with plenty of ‘
what if’s’ and they could well have decided that in such a situation it would be better to bring the buildings down under control than just vacate and see which way it would fall !
But try getting insurance when the Insurance Company knows the building is pre-wired for controlled demolition ...... or indeed get people and/or companies to work in it?
Shortly after that the whole of the WTC complex underwent a complete update of the fire control and alarm systems. That was still being done on 9/11, in fact I believe the weekend before the attack at least one tower was vacated for a complete ‘
test’ of the system. So there would have been an almost constant stream of technicians and other people in and out of these buildings and of course most of the work was inside the central core of the building. Of course people noticed ....... but would you know the difference between a Fire Panel and something designed to do a lot more than just that!
The design would involve full redundancy with primary and secondary highways for communication between each panel and the Control Centre. To immobilise that arrangement each highway would need to be cut twice ..... and even then only the completely isolated section would fail. SO .....
IMO not quite such a formidable task as you think it to be?
Anybody that has ever watched one of those Demolition Videos where they knock down a hotel in Vegas or a block of apartments can see what a huge job it would be. Not only the miles of Detonation Cord and the thousands of explosive charges, they often have to remove big chunks of the structure to make sure it falls ‘properly’...
Yes but ........ have you ever seen a video of a steel framed high rise being brought down by Controlled Demolition? NO! Because dealing with a reinforced concrete structure requires exactly what you describe and it requires a timed sequence of BLAST’s i.e. powerful shock waves, to remove the remaining concrete left after it has been weakened.
Steel framed structures are normally demolished from the top down with people cutting the steel into lengths then either dropping them or using cranes to take it down to the ground.
But nobody noticed all this work, Not one person?
If I am any way near the
possible scenario I describe then thousands would have seen all these guys with ‘ACME FIRE DETECTION SYSTEMS’ on their bright red overalls ..... and thought nothing more about it ! Most of the workers would install according to drawings ...... they would be unlikely to have any technical knowledge. As for explosives? Nah ..... Thermite/Thermate wrapped round the columns at specific points and marked ‘
Structural monitoring device do not remove.’ You don’t BLAST steel ....... you cut it. Thermite/Thermate is a cutting agent that burns at a very high temperature and melts the steel ....... it fizzes, it does not go BANG! Residue of Thermate/Thermite was found all over Manhatton Island after the attack ..... from street level to the roofs of buildings!
And then, they persuaded a bunch of terrorists to learn how to fly and fly the aircraft into the buildings – yet even though they were amateur fliers they hit the building so precisely as to not disrupt the incredibly complicated network of explosives and detonation cord that had been fixed in the building to ensure its destruction?
As pilots, the people training them said they were ALL bloody useless. All they learned to do was fly an aero plane in a simulator ...... none of them had any hours in commercial aircraft. But a highly visible and credible reason or any collapse would be needed ....... BUT did THEY actually fly them? We don’t question drones being flown by ‘
pilots’ thousands of miles away from the physical location of the aircraft.
Even Top Gun pilots have said that they would find some of the flying seen difficult without a lot of practice! The Pentagon being a classic example. A 270 Deg decending turn at a speed in excess of Vne, dropping from several thousand feet then over a hiway bridged junction and down to ground level without even touching the grass in the lawn and planting the aircraft into the ground floor windows? Takes some doing that ..... and all we have is 3-4 frames of video that shows nothing except a cloud of flame/smoke.
And yet, years later not one person apparently involved in this huge operation has come forward. Not one person with the deaths of thousands on their conscience has decided to speak out. Not one conspiracy theorist like yourself has managed to find any solid evidence like an unusual amount of explosives being purchased by a demolition company. Nothing.
But we do ..... but people that adapt your approach and belittle others don't accept it. Well, Danny Jewenko springs to mind ...... the Dutch demolition expert and I might add he is not the only one, has spoken out and was soon taken out of the picture. Surely .... its a bit like NordStream 1 & 2 that the US/CIA were behind it, is pretty evident ...... but has any official said so? I wonder how long before they bump off Seymore Hersh?
Sometimes we have to rely on Occam's razor…
Terrorists flew planes into the building causing vast damage and an inferno which caused them to collapse.
Now you spoil your image! The planes did not cause vast damage nor did they cause the collapse, otherwise after the impact the buildings would have toppled!!!!! Back to Newton ...... you cannot get the controlled collapse at free fall acceleration that we all saw from an asymmetrical impact without some external help! Firstly It needed zero resistance to gravity which means that the steel that was holding up around 250,000 tonnes of high rise building would have to have been removed.
Newton again ...... in both cases the collapse would have taken the least line of resistance ....... and in both cases with one side still more-or-less attached to the main structure it would have toppled! It didn’t ..... WHY?
