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[Lordo]

In a few decades we shall find out once the secret documents are realised whether the CIA was aware of the attacks and if they were whether they informed baby Bush.

There is a chance that which ever of the options apply, it could have been left to wipe out Taliban as they had lost control of Afghanistan. It seems eventually it made no difference as Taliban are back in power despite the power available to the yanks and the west in general too.

Lets face it the sooner the west leaves these countries alone, better life will be for all.

[Londonrake]

Ahhhh! The conspiracy gets more complex.

Not only did the US wire up the WTC buildings with explosives - and coordinate with the Islamist terrorist Al Qaeda airborne participants, in order to murder 3000+ of their own people but we now have "proof" that there was an invitation for Israeli Mossad people to view and celebrate the event.

I can't stress how absolutely fascinating it is that you guys can conjure up and apparently have absolute belief in this sort of nonsense. It has all the hallmarks of religious zealotry. And - there's no argument against "faith" of course

Doesn't anybody think it odd? That 22 years after those events, which apparently involved a joint effort by the US, Al Qaeda and now it seems Mossad, absolutely nobody has uttered a word? It has all come from.................. shhhhh.......... Conspiracy Theory sites.

FYI: The video contained factual evidence that supported Lordo’s comment!

I realise it is difficult for you to comprehend but your opinion is a total irrelevance ..... and is just that ...... your sarcastic opinion.

In the real World investigation, facts form the basis of the evidence. It is rarely a ‘black/white’ decision. As with the video the factual events are judged on the degree of probability and in this case your usual allegation of some sort of conspiracy is the least likely probability. What the video covered was facts and witness statements. The only opinion that is valid is that of a ‘Judge’ when he has reviewed ALL the evidence.

You never provide evidence .... only ever your opinion! (Mostly of others and their evidentially supported opinions!)

Apparently, although you’ve berated others about posting them, your opinions are in a different league. It’s those which disagree that are of course irrelevant.

I eagerly await the factual, evidentially based pictures of UFOs hovering in the 9/11 WTC area. To complete the puzzle.

Crazy? You might be surprised? 9/11 Conspiracy Theories come in all shapes and sizes. Your particular favourite (despite all the ignored and thus unanswered loose ends) is absolutely no different.

[Londonrake]

Even that great Blogger Lordo suffers from loneliness occasionally. So, he likes to keep his wind ups on the boil.

[Lordo]

Shit I spelt his name wrong. He is Bushbaby.

Nothing to see here for the Swine, move on babies.

[Robin Hood]

Apparently, although you’ve berated others about posting them, your opinions are in a different league. It’s those which disagree that are of course irrelevant.

I eagerly await the factual, evidentially based pictures of UFOs hovering in the 9/11 WTC area. To complete the puzzle.

Crazy? You might be surprised? 9/11 Conspiracy Theories come in all shapes and sizes. Your particular favourite (despite all the ignored and thus unanswered loose ends) is absolutely no different.

As I said .....

You never provide evidence .... only ever your opinion! (Mostly of others and their evidentially supported opinions!)

My response: Of course life will be too short for you to understand an evidence backed explanation that shows you up for the clown you are! But I don't have anything else to do at the moment!

WTC1, WTC2 and WTC7 all collapsed at around free fall acceleration straight down into their own footprint. BUT WTC1 and WTC2 were struck by an aircraft loaded with around 10,000 USG of JET A1 (Kerosine) ........ but WTC7 was not. So to level the playing field eliminate the aircraft and the fuel and you have three identical situations. So let's chose WTC7 to examine because the 'cause' you believe was responsible for the collapse of WTC1 and WTC2 does not exist with WTC7. The Greater Probability is that the aircraft and fuel really had little or no influence regarding the way the buildings collapsed. Greater minds than mine, a Prof Hulsey of the University of Fairbanks, Alaska, decided to investigate using some of the most modern software available to look at the findings of the official report for the collapse of WTC7 ..... by NIST.

In brief it didn't even remotely work! NIST's fairy story was they had discovered a previously unheard of phenomena, where an ordinary low level office fire could cause the simultaneous collapse of every single vertical column in a 47 story, steel cored/steel framed office building with a footprint the size of a US Football field, due to the failure of a single column/girder joint, due to heat nduced expansion! This had never happened before and has not happened since!

Hulsey also managed to come up with the ONLY theory that actually explained the collapse! That theory was the simultaneous collapse (within m/s) of every column in the building was the only explanation. He provided one single unarguable fact .......... he left others to explain how that was achieved! (Sensible Guy )

You could use CG's solution ...... and chose the most obvious explanation by applying Occam's Razor ...... and it's obvious ................. CONTROLLED DEMOLITION!!! ..... or maybe a flying saucer with an invisibility cloak?

But I thought I would give you the chance to make up your own mind ...... read these ......

https://ine.uaf.edu/wtc7

https://files.wtc7report.org/file/public-download/A-Structural-Reevaluation-of-the-Collapse-of-World-Trade-Center-7-March2020.pdf

https://www.nist.gov/world-trade-center-investigation/study-faqs/wtc-7-investigation

[cyprusgrump]

BUT WTC1 and WTC2 were struck by an aircraft loaded with around 10,000 USG of JET A1 (Kerosine) ........ but WTC7 was not.

Ah, it is Wednesday so there was 10,000 USG on the planes... I think I understand...

Hard to keep up with your tenuous grasp of the 'facts'...

[Robin Hood]

BUT WTC1 and WTC2 were* EACH struck by an aircraft loaded with around 10,000 USG of JET A1 (Kerosine) ........ but WTC7 was not.

* Sorry my mistake ...... I missed out the 'EACH'! I have corrected it so as not to confuse you into it meaning 10.000 USG between them or suggesting they were struck by the same aircraft!

Ah, it is Wednesday so there was 10,000 USG on the planes... I think I understand...

Hard to keep up with your tenuous grasp of the 'facts'...

I knew if I mentioned 'loaded with' it would confuse you! So I used the estimated load of10,000 USG) as per the Air Accident Investigation Report.

But of course with WTC7 ..... that was an irrelevance anyway as there were no aircraft involved.

Do you understand that?

[cyprusgrump]

BUT WTC1 and WTC2 were* EACH struck by an aircraft loaded with around 10,000 USG of JET A1 (Kerosine) ........ but WTC7 was not.

* Sorry my mistake ...... I missed out the 'EACH'! I have corrected it so as not to confuse you into it meaning 10.000 USG between them or suggesting they were struck by the same aircraft!

Ah, it is Wednesday so there was 10,000 USG on the planes... I think I understand...

Hard to keep up with your tenuous grasp of the 'facts'...

I knew if I mentioned 'loaded with' it would confuse you! So I used the estimated load of10,000 USG) as per the Air Accident Investigation Report.

But of course with WTC7 ..... that was an irrelevance anyway as there were no aircraft involved.

Do you understand that?

I understand that you have a rather feeble grasp on the 'facts' and are easily caught out on simple questions like 'how much fuel was on the aircraft?' as has been demonstrated on this very thread...

That rather throws into doubt your claim that you have 'solved' the mystery of how/why the towers collapsed...