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Re: How untrustworthy are the Turks?

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Aug 24, 2023 2:06 am

Mustiejodu wrote:When I come on this forum it feels like people of nazi racist type of mentality seem to just chat a load of bull shit based on their hatred of turks. What kind of humans are you lot??? Most of you are bigoted racist narrow minded idiots who just make negative comments based on your distorted opinions which means there will be no progress. There is one fact you joined EU without fulfilling the most fundamental requirement to join which was to resolve the Cyprus issue. You are a illegal member and therefore have no leg to stand on a preach about what is going on in pyla


...a little projection, wot?
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Re: How untrustworthy are the Turks?

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Aug 24, 2023 2:15 am

Lordo wrote:Fact RW.

1960 - Accepted by both sides till 1963 as GC rejected it and wanted it changed without even implementing it.
1964 - Acheson Plan - Accepted by the TCs rejected by Makarios.
1972 Plan was agreed by Dengtash and Rejected by Makarios
1978 - Plan was agreed by the TCs rejected by the cunt who was GC president
2004 - plan was rejected by GCs on a vote and accepted by the TCs on a vote.
2017 - Did Nasty not run for the hills?

That's just off memory. How the hell can you say it was all rejected by both sides.
I am not even going to bother to look at the rest. Rolandis's word is good enough for me. He was at the centre of things.

It's been 6 years since then and not even any discussions.


...Lordo, i don't doubt that these plans exist, i can say nothing, like most of us, about them because in affect they were held in secret.

But, i do know the Acheson Plan, and i know of the Dulles brothers, i know American Foreign Policy and the influence they had/have upon it even decades later; indeed the line Acheson proposed is the line we have today.

...1974- negotiations continuing; the coup a success but short lived, in three days collapsing because Greek Cypriots did not support it.

...2017- Nasty stands up for Cyprus giving everything to the "Turks" they wanted but Sovereignty, Akinci his pants full of crap stays seated, too timid to stand up and speak; run away you say?
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Re: How untrustworthy are the Turks?

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Aug 24, 2023 3:46 am

...watch the video

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... sland.html

...mayhem, thank goodness those soldiers are well trained and that so few got hurt.

...hundreds along with their police, along with bulldozers three i count crushing cars and the barriers along their way.

Indeed it reminds me of Isaac (and Solomou), such fury that is "Turkishness'' against anything and anyone having their say.
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Re: How untrustworthy are the Turks?

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Aug 24, 2023 5:07 am

https://m.bianet.org/english/politics/2 ... n-question

...also worth reading.

Describing the events as "provocations under the guise of a humanitarian project," Kanatlı listed the following problems:

* For instance, why has the Turkish military not allowed a road between Haspolat and Nicosia, which would significantly ease Nicosia's traffic?

* Why hasn't the road passing by the Turkish Battalion from the Kermiya civil defense area been opened?

* Why hasn't the road going down from Pronto roundabout and leading up to Kermiya been opened?

* Don't the people suffering from traffic congestion around Dereboyu deserve the "humanitarian project"?

* Isn't it necessary to resolve the traffic congestion around Kermiya and Ortaköy?

* Wouldn't the road by the Teacher Academy that is all set and ready there ease the entry to Nicosia?

* Aren't those entering Nicosia from the Famagusta side suitable for the humanitarian project? Or is the intention not humanitarian?
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Re: How untrustworthy are the Turks?

Postby Lordo » Thu Aug 24, 2023 11:25 am

Now you are bullshitting RW.

2017 - Nasty changed his demand and demanded the Guarantees were removed and TA left the island from day one of the agreement. About 5% of the TCs would accept that. Mostly by your friend Murat Kanatli's party with attracts less votes than Elam.

Secret you say. 2004 plan was published in full, all 10,000 pages of it. The lies tat were told by the GCs regarding that. Two hours given to Papadcuntous on TV unopposed crying while telling GCs to vote against the very plan he negotiated was particularly disgusting. The TV talk hosts laughing at anything that was said pro-solution, cars attacked of people who attended peace meetings, I will not go on.

1972 - Agreement between Dengtash and Clerides where all 13 amendments were accepted by Dengtash with everybody allowed to return to their homes refused by Makarios.

1978 - Varosha offered with only one condition and that was they sit in the same room. First accepted and then 7 days later refused.

Acheson plan secret? I posted the plan which was refused by Makarios.

I am afraid we have reached the end of the line RW.

No need for any further discussion.

I will not dig into any of of the others. No need.

Have a pleasant day.
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Re: How untrustworthy are the Turks?

Postby Lordo » Thu Aug 24, 2023 3:05 pm

But perhaps you can tell me one item from 2017 that the Turks got which Akinci would normally not accept but he crapped in his pants and said nothing as you put it. I find that most distasteful phrase regarding Akinci but never mind.
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Re: How untrustworthy are the Turks?

Postby Maximus » Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:33 pm

Bordo, you still havent answered my question about implementing the Annan plan in the Turkish Cypriot state only.

I can only deduce from your silence, and demonstrations from elsewhere on this forum, that you just love self inflicted victim-hood and incessant complaining. Its not good for the soul, you know!

But what is more relevant here is that you are showing yourself to be disingenuous and untrustworthy when the shoe is on the other foot. You want refugees from everywhere else to go wherever they like but you supported a plan that prevented Greek Cypriot refugees returning to their property in the Turkish Cypriot federated state and further restricts their movement, In their own country. How do you explain this apparent level of hypocrisy.

Start by answering the question

Would you accept the Annan plan in the Turkish Cypriot federated state only? if not why not?
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Re: How untrustworthy are the Turks?

Postby Lordo » Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:42 pm

Fuck off you stupid boy.

Annan plan was approved by the TCs by voting 65% yes last time I looked.

Fuck off and go clean some toilets.
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Re: How untrustworthy are the Turks?

Postby Maximus » Thu Aug 24, 2023 7:02 pm

Since the Turkish Cypriots approved the Annan plan, you shouldn't have any reservations about accepting its implementation in the Turkish Cypriot federated state only.

So why the reluctance to answer the question directly and use diversion tactics instead?

Its because you won't accept the plan if the shoe was on the other foot.

Which means that the Turkish Cypriot side, along with the Turks, and you in particular are disingenuous and untrustworthy regarding the Cyprus settlement solution.

You talk out of your exhaust pipe so what i would suggest is to consult with your children and come back here and provide a considered answer.
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Re: How untrustworthy are the Turks?

Postby Lordo » Thu Aug 24, 2023 7:15 pm

You stupid cunt. You assume I have read your post. That is some assumption.

Fuck off but before you do I give the same question. Give me one point from Annan Plan and one point from 2017 that GCs felt it was giving too much to the Turks or the TCs.

Otherwise just fuck off and stop being stupid.
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