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Re: How untrustworthy are the Turks?

Postby cyprusgrump » Wed Aug 23, 2023 4:54 pm

Lordo wrote:It is strange that idiots on this forum when confronted by the facts instead of dealing with the facts they criticize the poster or the the way post is presented.
Not only has he not got a clue, the then blames the TCs for siding with Turkey. Talk of blaming the fuckin victim. TCs are being victimised to this day because of Turkey's actins. If the west had balls they would apply the embargoes on Turkey not the TCs.

Fuck off Faximosmenos back to your toilet where your duties await you and the same to the cunt with a bucket over his head.




Your bizarre rantings have lost all meaning Bordo... :roll:

Cunt used to be a horrible word, the pinnacle of insults - but you use it almost every sentence and it has completely lost its power - you are verbally impotent! :lol:

It is just the same way you lefties call everybody 'racist'. It used to be an insult but now it means, "somebody that doesn't agree with me"... :?

What a mong... :lol:
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Re: How untrustworthy are the Turks?

Postby Maximus » Wed Aug 23, 2023 6:16 pm

Your chinese take-away menu might be a factual list of all the solution plans rejected by the Greek Cypriot side since 1948.

However, you said you was going to put some "meat on the bones" when you didn't.

The meat would have been some kind of content and analysis of each of those plans and an understanding as to why the Greek Cypriot side rejected them all to draw a conclusion.

Maybe you should try and understand the reason why they were all rejected instead of thinking so binary, such as no = your fault and yes = good. We said yes = we want peace, they said no = they dont want peace.

This is dross.

To me they were rejected because they were all the same dog shit presented in a different wrapper by colonial powers. :roll:
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Re: How untrustworthy are the Turks?

Postby Maximus » Wed Aug 23, 2023 6:24 pm

Lordo wrote: If the west had balls they would apply the embargoes on Turkey not the TCs.

Fuck off Faximosmenos back to your toilet where your duties await you and the same to the cunt with a bucket over his head.


They should impose it on both,

It seem that you dont realise what the Turkish Cypriot side is trying to achieve in Cyprus is not compatible with the wests values either. Hence no one recognises the Turkish Cypriots.

I will wash your mouth out with bleach.
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Re: How untrustworthy are the Turks?

Postby Lordo » Wed Aug 23, 2023 7:45 pm

Boy how many times have I told you to talk with your mouth not your fackin ass. Stop farting you hear.

Did the EU the Yanks, UN and even Greece not approve the Annan plan and did the EU not try to remove the embargoes after you cunts voted no in 2004 before Papadcuntos went in there threating to take legal action. Get your facts right you one brain celled moronic amoeba.

You got nothing to say about all 16 plans you fucked up all prepared by the west. Who is not compatible with the west again?

Now Fuck off.
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Re: How untrustworthy are the Turks?

Postby Maximus » Wed Aug 23, 2023 8:26 pm

I dont have the time to go in to all 16 plans and I am also humble enough to admit that i dont know enough about all 16 plans to comment on them.

You likely dont know much about all of them either but I will give you the opportunity to tell me more about the recent Annan plan since you have singled it out and like it so much.

Why not implement it in the Turkish Cypriot federated state only.

Give 50% of the seats in the house of representatives and the supreme court to a delegation of Greek Cypriots.

lets have the Annan plan in the northern part of Cyprus only and if all goes well, say after 7 years, Turkey can withdraw her military troops from Cyprus.

Yeah? :)
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Re: How untrustworthy are the Turks?

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Aug 23, 2023 8:44 pm

...actually Lordo, in all of these cases, both ''sides'' rejected these plans.

Even the Annan plan which was the only one put to a vote was rejected by the "Turks''; to be clear Annan V was not even read by most of the voters when asked to decide, never mind discussed or debated. While Turkish Cypriots voted in favor, i hardly think the 65% majority reflects the will of Cypriots under these circumstances; one would have expected a higher percentage given the extraordinary efforts by Turkey.

It is as Eide said, Cypriots left to themselves would have solved their problems long ago.

..."motherland" and "fatherland", even Historically speaking is false. Cyprus was not "born" of Turkey or of Greece, one could say it is the other way around.

...who is right Lordo (and Max): the "Turks"?, the "Greeks"? Is being Turkish the only reason you are willing to live under "Turkishness"?

...you want to fuck "Them", "be" Cypriot.
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Re: How untrustworthy are the Turks?

Postby Maximus » Wed Aug 23, 2023 8:56 pm

It certainly does not reflect the will of the Cypriots Warrior.

Details that Bordo carelessly (or carefully) omits.

65% of the Turkish Cypriots plus 25% of Greek Cypriots who voted in favor is only about 250,000 votes out of about a million people. I am being quite generous when weighting the Turkish Cypriot vote as well because the settlers were included in it. When really, they shouldn't have a say.

But Bordo likes the plan so much,

I am waiting to here what he has to say about its implementation in the Turkish Cypriot federated state only.
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Re: How untrustworthy are the Turks?

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:45 pm

...interesting reading.

As you can see, many attempts on both ''sides'' where rejected, yet few, were, accepted.

https://icg-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/s3fs- ... -table.pdf

https://www.crisisgroup.org/europe-cent ... led-cyprus

...grist for the mill.

https://cyprusscene.com/2013/10/03/peac ... -cypriots/

...on the Rolandis article, and comments; how things have changed.
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Re: How untrustworthy are the Turks?

Postby Lordo » Wed Aug 23, 2023 11:01 pm

Fact RW.

1960 - Accepted by both sides till 1963 as GC rejected it and wanted it changed without even implementing it.
1964 - Acheson Plan - Accepted by the TCs rejected by Makarios.
1972 Plan was agreed by Dengtash and Rejected by Makarios
1978 - Plan was agreed by the TCs rejected by the cunt who was GC president
2004 - plan was rejected by GCs on a vote and accepted by the TCs on a vote.
2017 - Did Nasty not run for the hills?

That's just off memory. How the hell can you say it was all rejected by both sides.
I am not even going to bother to look at the rest. Rolandis's word is good enough for me. He was at the centre of things.

It's been 6 years since then and not even any discussions.
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Re: How untrustworthy are the Turks?

Postby Mustiejodu » Thu Aug 24, 2023 12:08 am

When I come on this forum it feels like people of nazi racist type of mentality seem to just chat a load of bull shit based on their hatred of turks. What kind of humans are you lot??? Most of you are bigoted racist narrow minded idiots who just make negative comments based on your distorted opinions which means there will be no progress. There is one fact you joined EU without fulfilling the most fundamental requirement to join which was to resolve the Cyprus issue. You are a illegal member and therefore have no leg to stand on a preach about what is going on in pyla
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