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[repulsewarrior]

https://cyprus-mail.com/2023/08/18/un-c ... near-pyla/

...with video.

[Maximus]

First they block the road in TRNC and then they assault 15 TC policemen.

Nice innit?

I have no doubt they will get their reply soon enough. And when they do it will be well deserved. Cause as far as I am aware the UN has no mandate to attack anybody. I seem to remember as soon as a gun was fired by a GC they would run for cover under their beds back in the 60s.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?extid=CL-UNK-UNK-UNK-AN_GK0T-GK1C&mibextid=2Rb1fB&v=3351928114952976

You posted a video that does not show the assault of 15 TC policeman. On the contrary, it shows part of the assault on the UN.

The UN peacekeepers did not attack anyone.

But this is a normal tactic for the Turks, which is to make opposite statements accusing the other of the very thing they you have done.

The Turkish sides statements are very untrustworthy.

[Lordo]

https://cyprus-mail.com/2023/08/18/un-condemns-assaults-from-turkish-cypriot-side-on-personnel-near-pyla/

...with video.

UN back in 1964 sat by and watched GC militia attack the TC enclaves with Tanks which they imported despite UN resolutions forbidding it and yet now they are parking their vehicles to stop the upgrading of an existing road.

Why did they not park their vehicle in the road back in 1964 when 5000 heavy trucks of weapons were being brought in via Limassol?

UN can go fuck themselves. Clearly they are not helping peace judging by their efforts since 1963. Just doing the same thing all this time is clearly madness.

What is even more interesting is Resolution 186.

United Nations Security Council Resolution 186, adopted unanimously on 4 March 1964 during the Cyprus crisis of 1963–64, calling on all member states to conform to their obligations under the Charter, asked the Government of Cyprus to take all additional measures necessary to stop violence and bloodshed and called on communities in Cyprus and their leaders to act with restraint.
Date: 4 March 1964
Meeting no.: 1102
Result: Adopted
Subject: The Cyprus Question

And did Makarios stop his attack on Kochina or in 1967 Kofunye? like fuck he did.
What did stop Makarios was TAF.

Some pibol here are living in the land of the make believe. You can believe anything you want despite what the facts are or have been.

[repulsewarrior]

...now 'we' know that ''Turks'' and ''Greeks'' are untrustworthy; so?

[Jerry]

What a load of bullshiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit. The Turks are building a road to Pile that happens to be inside the buffer zone and the UN, Yanks The Swine and the Frogs object to it and attempted to stop it? Who fackin died and made them road construction police?

I do not normally side with the Turks but this road is being built for TCs. There is a lot of traffic on that road. Another side to this is the fact that there is no official crossing point there but people do mix and trade between themselves quite freely.

As to Turkish Troops on the island, read your constitution you stupid idiot. They are there legally and they will be there even after the agreement. Of course after the agreement most will go back except the 650 who were there in 1960. What ever happened to the 600 Greek officers who were there during the coup on top of the 950 that was there according to the constitution. Were they legal there, like fuck they were.

You can well talk about the UN resolutions. How many resolutions from the UN did you guys implement before 74. While you were attacking the defenseless civilians in Kochina and Kofunye or anywhere else you attacked before 1974 with those lovely tanks you bought back in 1964 and promised not to use them against TCs. Was that promise kept? And not a single Turkish troop in sight back in 64 and then again in 67. What about the 12,000 Greek soldiers who came to the island back in 1964, was that fuckin legal? Like fuck it was.

Let those with no sin throw the first stone. Fuck I though you were a good Christian but you aint even that faximos Get to the back of the que Faximos. Gets some brains before you spout your crap

They can all fuck off where they came from.

On a more pleasant note, I wonder how many of the above will lift a finger to implement any embargoes on Turkey. Lets face it even in 1974 they only implement embargos on arms sales, nothing else. And look at them now, they make tanks, planes and drones.

Final note though is how is it that the new GRoC leader has not even attempted to begin talks? What is he waiting for for pigs to learn to fly.



Enjoy

Idiots like you harp on about 1963 and its consequences - you make me sick! You ignore what Denktash and his thugs were up to before 1960 when, as British stooges, you lot were top dogs. What on earth did you expect to happen to your 18% minority once the British left? Zorlu wanted Cyprus to be returned to Turkey after the colonial power departed. Turkey managed to screw an undemocratic, unworkable "constitution" out of the British with the expectation that it would lead to inter-communal unrest and ultimately partition. As the dominant military power and with a pat on the back from Kissinger Turkey achieved its goal.

You come on here with you clever-dick smart*rse spoutings as if you know everything about the history of what went on, you make me sick.




Enjoy yourself

FOREIGN RELATIONS OF THE UNITED STATES, 1958–1960, VOLUME X, PART 1, EASTERN EUROPE REGION; SOVIET UNION; CYPRUS

207. Telegram From the Consulate in Nicosia to the Department of State 0
Nicosia, June 9, 1958, 4 p.m.
389. Had interview Deputy Governor Sinclair today regarding tragic events of last three days.1 He gave me details new severe emergency regulations enumerated Contel 388.2 Said Turk leaders here have been extremely uncooperative, refusing government’s requests urge restraint and instead, with utter cynicism, have repeated claim that Greek bomb at information center provoked Turk community. I pointed out admission Turk responsibility for later killings in words Kuchuk at Istanbul, who said Turk patriots “marched to Greek quarter killing two and wounding five” in retribution. Sinclair said all evidence, including condition interior building pointed to “planned” operation, and while government unable accuse openly, had informed press and wire services “for guidance” that incident apparently not Greek inspired.

He not so certain of role Ankara government but there again usual pattern would indicate complicity. In reply my query his assessment Turk purpose in forcing issue to verge civil war, Sinclair said “This is their all-out bid for partition”. In spite obvious discouragement local officials and seeming hopelessness of effort, HMG planning press on with new initiative June 17. I gave him some of worst FBIS transcripts Ankara radio output yesterday, pointing out that our reports were to effect public radios in various centers pouring forth these lies and inflammatory statements to masses Turks who later demonstrated as in Limassol, Ktima, Larnaca and Famagusta. Such broadcasts obviously contributed to tragedy last night’s knife and shovel killings Larnaca.

Sinclair agreed and said they now giving serious consideration jamming Ankara radio as well as Athens.

Also queried Deputy Governor with regard position Denktash 3 who, after fiery speech Nicosia and after request by Administration Secretary Reddaway for moderation, proceeded Larnaca and delivered [Page 623] same speech. Deputy Governor admitted they reexamining Denktash position in view recent actions. I then gave him FBIS transcript Kuchuk Istanbul speech for use by Governor when he meets Turk leaders this afternoon.

Comment: British now consider themselves in virtual Palestinian situation. In face events past few days and apparent willingness Turks go any length prove their point, do not see any hope for UK proposals unless we willing back them strongly. Utterly shameless, irresponsible manner in which Turks applying pressure here would seem call for some action our part to stop deteriorating Greek-Turk relations as well as situation on island. Am in no position judge whether this best accomplished in Ankara or at NAC meeting requested by Greece but do believe we cannot, as leaders this alliance, allow Cyprus situation drift any closer to chaos.

Belcher

[Lordo]

Wow and double wow.

Fuck man you have lost what mind you had.

Grivas started the war to join with Greece in 1955. Killing GC, TC and Brits including women and children.

Dengtash on the other hand did not start fighting before 1958.

Shiit maaaaaaaaeeeeeeeen do I need to teach you fuckin maths too.

1958-1955 =3 fuckin years later.

In meantime answer the fuckin questions.

What the fuck was UN doing when

1. 5000 trucks full of weapons were being brought in 1964. Did they park their trucks in front of them. I will fuckin tell you. They had to ask permission to even enter the warehouses they suspected the weapons were in and they got the permission location by location weeks after it was asked for.
2. 12000 Greek Soldiers came to Cyprus
3. When Makarios started using the very tanks he promised they would not use against the TCs.

This has nothing to do with Dengtash, it has everything to do with the UN.

One fuckin road is being built and they try to stop it. I know of other roads that were built in the buffer zone and on GC land too and the fuckers did not raise an eyebrow. When did the fuckers ever do anything else other hide in the bunkers and under their beds.

Having signed the 1960 agreement, what the fuck is the point of going back before that.

Go fuck yourself man. You are fucked up.

[Lordo]

...now 'we' know that ''Turks'' and ''Greeks'' are untrustworthy; so?

Nooooo RW, Makarios was the same as them. We had a workable constitution and he fucked it up.

Come on man.

People go on about Dengtash, he was not even in Cyprus between Jan 1964 and April 1968. In the meantime people also forget that when Kuchuk asked Inonu to come and save the TCs in Cyprus in 1964, the response he gave was spot on.

He advised Kuchuk to return to government. Certainly we will come to save you if needed but who will save you from us was his advice. On the other hand when Makarios asked for the amendments to bw changed the Greek prime minister told him now is not the time.

This has nothing to do with the "Greeks" and the "Turks". This has everything to do with Makarios and his Enosis shit. He was offered the changes back in 1972 and he refused them because it did not include Enosis.

When will the GCs fuckin wake up to the realities of what went on in Cyprus?

It was Makarios that was untrustworthy and even today those who have the same thoughts Makarios had back in 1960 are also untrustworthy. There are people on this forum that are untrustworthy. I knew the usual suspect but I did not expect Jerry to join them.

[Jerry]

Wow and double wow.

Fuck man you have lost what mind you had.

Grivas started the war to join with Greece in 1955. Killing GC, TC and Brits including women and children.

Dengtash on the other hand did not start fighting before 1958.

Shiit maaaaaaaaeeeeeeeen do I need to teach you fuckin maths too.

1958-1955 =3 fuckin years later.

In meantime answer the fuckin questions.

What the fuck was UN doing when



1. 5000 trucks full of weapons were being brought in 1964. Did they park their trucks in front of them. I will fuckin tell you. They had to ask permission to even enter the warehouses they suspected the weapons were in and they got the permission location by location weeks after it was asked for.
2. 12000 Greek Soldiers came to Cyprus
3. When Makarios started using the very tanks he promised they would not use against the TCs.

This has nothing to do with Dengtash, it has everything to do with the UN.

One fuckin road is being built and they try to stop it. I know of other roads that were built in the buffer zone and on GC land too and the fuckers did not raise an eyebrow. When did the fuckers ever do anything else other hide in the bunkers and under their beds.

Having signed the 1960 agreement, what the fuck is the point of going back before that.

Go fuck yourself man. You are fucked up.

A very poor attempt from the CF cretin. You don't want to go back to pre 1960 because it does not suit your distorted version of events. How far should we go back, idiot? Menders declaring that Cyprus was an extension of Anatolis in the 1950s. The Istanbul Pogrom in 1955? Murder of Greek Cypriots in 1821? Or the events of 1571 that started the whole rotten mess? Turkey was determined to regain what the Ottomans had lost after WW1 and reneged on the Treaty of Serves - and that included taking back Cyprus regardless of later promises. All your inane spoutings about what the Greek Cypriots did to the island's minority are an consequence of Turkey's actions.

Turkey has played you mugs for its own ends to such an extent that that you are now a minority in your pathetic little "state".

Suckers, wow and double wow!

[MR-from-NG]

What a load of bullshiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit. The Turks are building a road to Pile that happens to be inside the buffer zone and the UN, Yanks The Swine and the Frogs object to it and attempted to stop it? Who fackin died and made them road construction police?

I do not normally side with the Turks but this road is being built for TCs. There is a lot of traffic on that road. Another side to this is the fact that there is no official crossing point there but people do mix and trade between themselves quite freely.

As to Turkish Troops on the island, read your constitution you stupid idiot. They are there legally and they will be there even after the agreement. Of course after the agreement most will go back except the 650 who were there in 1960. What ever happened to the 600 Greek officers who were there during the coup on top of the 950 that was there according to the constitution. Were they legal there, like fuck they were.

You can well talk about the UN resolutions. How many resolutions from the UN did you guys implement before 74. While you were attacking the defenseless civilians in Kochina and Kofunye or anywhere else you attacked before 1974 with those lovely tanks you bought back in 1964 and promised not to use them against TCs. Was that promise kept? And not a single Turkish troop in sight back in 64 and then again in 67. What about the 12,000 Greek soldiers who came to the island back in 1964, was that fuckin legal? Like fuck it was.

Let those with no sin throw the first stone. Fuck I though you were a good Christian but you aint even that faximos Get to the back of the que Faximos. Gets some brains before you spout your crap

They can all fuck off where they came from.

On a more pleasant note, I wonder how many of the above will lift a finger to implement any embargoes on Turkey. Lets face it even in 1974 they only implement embargos on arms sales, nothing else. And look at them now, they make tanks, planes and drones.

Final note though is how is it that the new GRoC leader has not even attempted to begin talks? What is he waiting for for pigs to learn to fly.



Enjoy

Idiots like you harp on about 1963 and its consequences - you make me sick! You ignore what Denktash and his thugs were up to before 1960 when, as British stooges, you lot were top dogs. What on earth did you expect to happen to your 18% minority once the British left? Zorlu wanted Cyprus to be returned to Turkey after the colonial power departed. Turkey managed to screw an undemocratic, unworkable "constitution" out of the British with the expectation that it would lead to inter-communal unrest and ultimately partition. As the dominant military power and with a pat on the back from Kissinger Turkey achieved its goal.

You come on here with you clever-dick smart*rse spoutings as if you know everything about the history of what went on, you make me sick.




Enjoy yourself

FOREIGN RELATIONS OF THE UNITED STATES, 1958–1960, VOLUME X, PART 1, EASTERN EUROPE REGION; SOVIET UNION; CYPRUS

207. Telegram From the Consulate in Nicosia to the Department of State 0
Nicosia, June 9, 1958, 4 p.m.
389. Had interview Deputy Governor Sinclair today regarding tragic events of last three days.1 He gave me details new severe emergency regulations enumerated Contel 388.2 Said Turk leaders here have been extremely uncooperative, refusing government’s requests urge restraint and instead, with utter cynicism, have repeated claim that Greek bomb at information center provoked Turk community. I pointed out admission Turk responsibility for later killings in words Kuchuk at Istanbul, who said Turk patriots “marched to Greek quarter killing two and wounding five” in retribution. Sinclair said all evidence, including condition interior building pointed to “planned” operation, and while government unable accuse openly, had informed press and wire services “for guidance” that incident apparently not Greek inspired.

He not so certain of role Ankara government but there again usual pattern would indicate complicity. In reply my query his assessment Turk purpose in forcing issue to verge civil war, Sinclair said “This is their all-out bid for partition”. In spite obvious discouragement local officials and seeming hopelessness of effort, HMG planning press on with new initiative June 17. I gave him some of worst FBIS transcripts Ankara radio output yesterday, pointing out that our reports were to effect public radios in various centers pouring forth these lies and inflammatory statements to masses Turks who later demonstrated as in Limassol, Ktima, Larnaca and Famagusta. Such broadcasts obviously contributed to tragedy last night’s knife and shovel killings Larnaca.

Sinclair agreed and said they now giving serious consideration jamming Ankara radio as well as Athens.

Also queried Deputy Governor with regard position Denktash 3 who, after fiery speech Nicosia and after request by Administration Secretary Reddaway for moderation, proceeded Larnaca and delivered [Page 623] same speech. Deputy Governor admitted they reexamining Denktash position in view recent actions. I then gave him FBIS transcript Kuchuk Istanbul speech for use by Governor when he meets Turk leaders this afternoon.

Comment: British now consider themselves in virtual Palestinian situation. In face events past few days and apparent willingness Turks go any length prove their point, do not see any hope for UK proposals unless we willing back them strongly. Utterly shameless, irresponsible manner in which Turks applying pressure here would seem call for some action our part to stop deteriorating Greek-Turk relations as well as situation on island. Am in no position judge whether this best accomplished in Ankara or at NAC meeting requested by Greece but do believe we cannot, as leaders this alliance, allow Cyprus situation drift any closer to chaos.

Belcher

One thing you should know about Lordo. You know those blue jeans that have the tiny pocket on the right hand side? I've never bothered to find out what the fuck that pocket is there for but every blue jean has it. Well our Lordo can take 10 of each and every one of you out of that little pocket

[Lordo]

Anyway here is a very interesting real fact.

August 21 (today, tonight)
44 years ago I had the wildest experience of my life that lasted from 7 pm to midnight, which is engraved not in my memory but in my soul, an unwritten captive in the old sunama of Vatili, when the mass grave of Aloa was found, Maratha, Santalari, as a result a group of Turkish and Kazakh fanatics went out pagan for revenge, and we had the misfortune to fall into their hands.
When we were put to the wall for execution we were lucky enough to have a good guard Hassan Kasap, who stood an obstacle and with many efforts managed to save us
Thank you very much Hassan
In the picture is the place I was in, if you look closely at the wall you will see the bullet holes
In the third photo Hassan is drinking his beer with a peaceful conscience

By Kyriacos Andreou

Here is Hassan he is referring to.

Not enough is said about those who stood in front of their own killers and saved lives of people from the other community. About time we started publishing their actions which risked their own lives to do what they did.
I do have another incident similar to this. Is there a single incident where any GC stood between a TC and GC EOKA to save them? I would like to hear about it.