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[Lordo]

There we agree, far too many enter the Mediterranean countries and the Europeans promised to share them. Look at what the Swine are doing. over 100 000 are taken up by France and Fishy and Cruella wants France to stop the boats. Fucking cheek is what it is. They should not bomb these countries and support the dictators and perhaps less people will leave their homelands.

Say thank you Australia for saving your arses!

Greetings to Abbott, for steering the Brits in the correct direction.

Your Abbot can shove his ideas up his and your ass boy. British people are not against refugees no migrants. Australians have been cuts from the start. Never mind refugees what you did to the natives there and still do is unforgivable.

[Lordo]

The only question now is how far up does the chain of command go for the instruction to murder the refugees.

[Maximus]

There isnt sufficient evidence yet and you are still confusing migrants with refugees.

[Lordo]

There isnt sufficient evidence yet and you are still confusing migrants with refugees.

Oh dear me. I mean confusing one thing is understandable but confusing two things is just carelessness

Greek shipwreck: hi-tech investigation suggests coastguard responsible for sinking
Research into loss of trawler with hundreds of deaths strongly contradicts official accounts – while finding a failure to mobilise help and evidence that survivor statements were tampered with

Which bit of this do you find inconclusive?

As to a Refugee and a Migrant? First you have to find out which is your mouth and which is your arsehole. You can then go on to higher knowledge.

[Maximus]

Oh dear me. I mean confusing one thing is understandable but confusing two things is just carelessness

Greek shipwreck: hi-tech investigation suggests coastguard responsible for sinking
Research into loss of trawler with hundreds of deaths strongly contradicts official accounts – while finding a failure to mobilise help and evidence that survivor statements were tampered with

Which bit of this do you find inconclusive?

The bit in the article that goes beyond skim reading and click bait headlines that may get in the way of a good story. The bit that says "The exact circumstances of the sinking cannot be conclusively proved in the absence of visual evidence".

So what they are saying is, their research is fictitious and suggestive only and they cant prove it.

As to a Refugee and a Migrant? First you have to find out which is your mouth and which is your arsehole. You can then go on to higher knowledge.

No, first you have to know the difference between what is a refugee and what is a migrant. which we have done already in this thread. Given the fact the majority of the people on this boat were undeniably not refugees, then we should stop referring to them as refugees. If you want to grossly exaggerate and generalize, then do it based on what the majority are. They are economic, illegal migrants.

What was that you were saying about confusing two things and being careless? I wouldn't expect any less from someone who's got a phd in political science from tik tok.

[Lordo]

Oh dear me. I mean confusing one thing is understandable but confusing two things is just carelessness

Greek shipwreck: hi-tech investigation suggests coastguard responsible for sinking
Research into loss of trawler with hundreds of deaths strongly contradicts official accounts – while finding a failure to mobilise help and evidence that survivor statements were tampered with

Which bit of this do you find inconclusive?

The bit in the article that goes beyond skim reading and click bait headlines that may get in the way of a good story. The bit that says "The exact circumstances of the sinking cannot be conclusively proved in the absence of visual evidence".

So what they are saying is, their research is fictitious and suggestive only and they cant prove it.

As to a Refugee and a Migrant? First you have to find out which is your mouth and which is your arsehole. You can then go on to higher knowledge.

No, first you have to know the difference between what is a refugee and what is a migrant. which we have done already in this thread. Given the fact the majority of the people on this boat were undeniably not refugees, then we should stop referring to them as refugees. If you want to grossly exaggerate and generalize, then do it based on what the majority are. They are economic, illegal migrants.

What was that you were saying about confusing two things and being careless? I wouldn't expect any less from someone who's got a phd in political science from tik tok.

You really are a fucking clueless cunt. You know nothing about these people and yet you declare them as migrants. Yeah yeah sure and soon pigs will fly too.
If I said it once I said it a million times. Refugees have a process of arriving on flights. They do not take to small boats paying thousands for the pleasure. Only desperate refugees do that. Take your pill and fuckin go to sleep you stupid cunt.
Was it not you that said if a refugee comes from a safe country the country they arrive at does not have to accept them. Like I said start with a, then go onto your bees and then you will be fine. you stupid idiot. There is no such law anywhere in the refugee convention. If there was the burden would be taken by all the poor countries in next door which is why it is not a rule. This is cooked up idiotic fascists to justify being cruel to desperate people.

You know that people like you are destined to hell right? so is the priest who taught you politics and history.

[Lordo]

I am not surprised people confuse migrants with refugees.

UN has a list of all the countries that create refugees.

These are the numbers

100 million refugees in the world - not migrants.

75 million refugees actually move elsewhere in their own country where they find safety

Of the 25 million who leave their land 17 million stay in the neighboring countries which is as poor as the one they have left.

That leaves 8 million who decide to move further afield for safety. Considering the fuckin west causes all the wars and actually rob them of their raw material resources, it is a bit rich to say no we do not want the 8 million refugees that go further a field.

Consider Britain that claims France should stop the boats but France already gives refuge status to over 100K refugees per year. Why should they stop the 40K refugees that want to arrive in UK. In any case there is a reason why they want to come to UK. They have fuckin relatives here and were part of the fuckin empire too.

So can we stop this confusion between refugee and migrants.

The Swine party has been promising they will reduce migration since 2010 and every year it has gone up. There is a reason for it. We need the fuckers to do the jobs we do not want to do. 2022 we had 1 million refugees arrive in the UK via normal means with no threat to their lives but we are worried about 40k small boat people. Only a racist would fall for such a trick. The only way to stop the boats is to set up an office in every country we have an embassy in and let these people apply for asylum there. Now that will save a lot of lives and stop these gangs making a killing. And no it is not opening all the doors for everybody. They can be assess before they get here and each assessment will not cause 169,000 pounds which is what they have agreed to pay Rwanda to asses each refugee.

I see today that the EU paid Turkey not to allow any Refugees come through and they did the same with Tunisia. Nice, so they are not breaking the Refugee convention which they have signed but pay for it to be done for them. That is just disgusting thing to do for so called "civilised world"

[Maximus]

when an estimated 400 out of 750 on board were Pakistanis, you are grossly exaggerating in your generalization calling "these people" refugees.

Any asylum applications in an EU member state from people of Pakistan origin are fast track denied and they are deported back to Pakistan.

This we know, we also know what most of the media are referring to them in their articles. that is as migrants and not refugees.

Because the majority on board are nationals from countries that would have their application for asylum denied.

I dont know why I waste my time with you, all you do is plonkenstein it.

[Lordo]

You can tell an idiot because they never check anything they just talk via their arse. Check some figures for fuck sake.

40,618 people from Pakistan fled in 2022 and applied for asylum in other countries, according to UNHCR data.

So you reckon there are no refugees out of Pakistan.
What are you?
I really feel sorry for you cause you can't help being a cunt can you?

[Maximus]

check these figures re plonkenstein

In the last 3 years to April 2023, 148,632 people from Pakistan applied for asylum with a rejection rate of 97.6%.