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Re: How good a liar are Greeks?

Postby Lordo » Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:02 pm

MR-from-NG wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
Paphitis wrote:The Greek Coast Guard were simply doing their job and enforcing the law within their territorial waters.

Bottom line is that these illegal migrants are breaking the law, and the Hellenic Coastguard have the right to impede their journey and stop them from landing in Greece.

There is a proper way to enter Greece, through the front door.

There is no other way of dealing with this issue without opening the flood gates by rewarding the law breakers.

If anything, Hellenic Coastguard is far too tame.

Try doing this in Australia, or Merika and see what happens.

If anyone doesn't know what I am talking about, google TAMPA Crisis and see for yourselves. A Norwegian Registered vessel was obstructed from entering Australian Waters with 433 rescued illegal migrants on board. Not even allowed to get medical assistance except for that which was provided by Royal Australian Navy in International Waters.

Ans they were boarded by SAS.

Also, the UK wants to adopt Australia's zero tolerance. It's probably a good thing they left the EU.

Wouldn't expect anything but from a fascist nation. Oh and fuck your Meryykaaa too :D :D


You see, that is where the likes of you, Lordo, Kikapu, Pyro et al have a massive downfall to the point one could say that you are all a bunch of ideologues at best, and at worst, extremely STUPID with a chronically very low IQ to the point that all of you shouldn't even be allowed to drive a car, or hold down jobs.

I don't say this to insult any of you, but rather, it just appears to be the case when you say stupid things like this, then either one of you then post in the Ukraine War thread about those nasty Ukrainian Nazis. Oh yes, Merika, Australia, Greece, Ukraine are all fascist, aren't they?

Well, my little bitches, here is a good dose of reality!

Merika, Australia, Greece and Ukraine are not the NAZIS or even slightly fascist. We are talking about 4 nations among the most liberal on earth. Places where human rights, democracy, free speech run supreme. To the point where the state does not interfere in one's beliefs, sexual preferences even, and rights to self-determination in any social facet. Equal opportunity and anti-discrimation laws protecting the individual.

The fascist nation, which you all do seem to support and give a free pass to, is Ruzzia. A country that has invaded Ukraine, illegally, and displaced millions of people, killed hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians, castrates Ukrainian POWs, has barrier forces to gun down its own retreating soldiers (that is the level of Ruzzia's barbarism and inhumanity) and it blows up dams and causes one of the greatest ecological disasters the world has ever seen.

That's who the fascists are whom you all support.

Not Merika, certainly not Greece, Australia or Ukraine...

Now, Greece has its own issues and needs to defend its border from illegal migrants. Only a few years ago, it almost went bankrupt. It was bailed out by the EU, and ECB, with funds mainly from the big economic powers of Europe like Germany, Holland, and France. So Greece isn't really flush with money and at the same time has to provide social services, health, education to its people, build infrastructure, provide law enforcement and a myriad of other things the people of Greece need, including F-35s in order to defend its airspace, from an aggressive neighbor (Turkey).

Greece can't afford to be a transit point to millions of illegal economic refugees seeking to go on to Germany, and Western Europe. Greece has obligations to these countries and the EU. And if they enter Greece, there will also be other social problems such as crime, drugs and perhaps even an exploitable slave labour black market, taking away jobs from the local Greeks, which has about 25% of its youth unemployed.

It's about survival and law and order. Greece, and all nations have the right to determine who enters their borders. Crossing their border in this way is ILLEGAL. And law breakers can not be awared with a free ticket to Germany, which is a country that has done more than enough to help refugees.

And as soon as even one concession is made, the floodgates open and that is something Greece, can't afford.

There is nothing fascist about it at all. Greece hasn't invaded anyone. It hasn't killed anyone.

But I can tell you who the fascists and NAZIs really are. Ruzzia is the fascist country. Pootin is the NAZI. And you all support this fascism.

And yet the minute poor little Greece, Australia or Merika send a little Coastguard boat to stop illegal immigrants from Pakistan to enter, they are fascist.

GO FIGURE!

But you want to know what's great? Well, this fascism which you all support, has united all of Europe, all of NATO and even expanded them, united the collective west, and the East (Asia). We are now all united, just like the allies were in WW2.

So much so, Ruzzia has lost the war, and will be defeated because these evils that YOU support and this fascism that YOU support will not be allowed to pass.

And Greece is on the right side of history, with the EU, NATO, and collective West and is even sending arms to Ukraine just like we all are, because we all support JUSTICE, and we will defeat the fascism YOU support.

I have no time in reading such meaningless long and simply full of shit post my poor Bafidi. I have always thought of you as a Walter Mitty and you have proven me right on countless occasions. If you want to challenge my accusation how about we put everything aside and you update us of your development project you have invested to the tune of $3 million in? Show us a few pictures, if you have anything to sell like apartments, shops, warehouses please provide links, I might even want to invest in your project. Show me something tangible that might convince me that you are not the bullshitter I think you are.

Btw, if you really want decent returns for your investment then think about North Cyprus. Fucking hell man, the Germans are coming in plane loads and buying villas in bulk. Michael Ballack just bought a $2.4 million beachfront villa. Another German that you might consider as the Simon Cowel of Germany purchased 6 beachfront villas for all his family, his name escapes me right now. These villas are selling like hot cakes.

I don't know why I'm giving you this info, you're not building in Cyprus, you're not driving those 8 cylinder gas guzzlers, you're fucking broke. A penniless fantasist dickhead.

I remember this conversation about Bafiti wanting to invest 2.5 million (the exact figure may have been 3.5 million) and asking for advice who were good builders. If all you are going to ask things like that you will not be able to build a fuckin shed.

He is one hell of an idiot. I blame Kiks for entertaining his ideas of being a pilot when it has been established that where he claimed he got his license does not train pilots for civil aviation.
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Re: How good a liar are Greeks?

Postby Paphitis » Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:07 pm

Lordo wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
Paphitis wrote:The Greek Coast Guard were simply doing their job and enforcing the law within their territorial waters.

Bottom line is that these illegal migrants are breaking the law, and the Hellenic Coastguard have the right to impede their journey and stop them from landing in Greece.

There is a proper way to enter Greece, through the front door.

There is no other way of dealing with this issue without opening the flood gates by rewarding the law breakers.

If anything, Hellenic Coastguard is far too tame.

Try doing this in Australia, or Merika and see what happens.

If anyone doesn't know what I am talking about, google TAMPA Crisis and see for yourselves. A Norwegian Registered vessel was obstructed from entering Australian Waters with 433 rescued illegal migrants on board. Not even allowed to get medical assistance except for that which was provided by Royal Australian Navy in International Waters.

Ans they were boarded by SAS.

Also, the UK wants to adopt Australia's zero tolerance. It's probably a good thing they left the EU.

Wouldn't expect anything but from a fascist nation. Oh and fuck your Meryykaaa too :D :D


You see, that is where the likes of you, Lordo, Kikapu, Pyro et al have a massive downfall to the point one could say that you are all a bunch of ideologues at best, and at worst, extremely STUPID with a chronically very low IQ to the point that all of you shouldn't even be allowed to drive a car, or hold down jobs.

I don't say this to insult any of you, but rather, it just appears to be the case when you say stupid things like this, then either one of you then post in the Ukraine War thread about those nasty Ukrainian Nazis. Oh yes, Merika, Australia, Greece, Ukraine are all fascist, aren't they?

Well, my little bitches, here is a good dose of reality!

Merika, Australia, Greece and Ukraine are not the NAZIS or even slightly fascist. We are talking about 4 nations among the most liberal on earth. Places where human rights, democracy, free speech run supreme. To the point where the state does not interfere in one's beliefs, sexual preferences even, and rights to self-determination in any social facet. Equal opportunity and anti-discrimation laws protecting the individual.

The fascist nation, which you all do seem to support and give a free pass to, is Ruzzia. A country that has invaded Ukraine, illegally, and displaced millions of people, killed hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians, castrates Ukrainian POWs, has barrier forces to gun down its own retreating soldiers (that is the level of Ruzzia's barbarism and inhumanity) and it blows up dams and causes one of the greatest ecological disasters the world has ever seen.

That's who the fascists are whom you all support.

Not Merika, certainly not Greece, Australia or Ukraine...

Now, Greece has its own issues and needs to defend its border from illegal migrants. Only a few years ago, it almost went bankrupt. It was bailed out by the EU, and ECB, with funds mainly from the big economic powers of Europe like Germany, Holland, and France. So Greece isn't really flush with money and at the same time has to provide social services, health, education to its people, build infrastructure, provide law enforcement and a myriad of other things the people of Greece need, including F-35s in order to defend its airspace, from an aggressive neighbor (Turkey).

Greece can't afford to be a transit point to millions of illegal economic refugees seeking to go on to Germany, and Western Europe. Greece has obligations to these countries and the EU. And if they enter Greece, there will also be other social problems such as crime, drugs and perhaps even an exploitable slave labour black market, taking away jobs from the local Greeks, which has about 25% of its youth unemployed.

It's about survival and law and order. Greece, and all nations have the right to determine who enters their borders. Crossing their border in this way is ILLEGAL. And law breakers can not be awared with a free ticket to Germany, which is a country that has done more than enough to help refugees.

And as soon as even one concession is made, the floodgates open and that is something Greece, can't afford.

There is nothing fascist about it at all. Greece hasn't invaded anyone. It hasn't killed anyone.

But I can tell you who the fascists and NAZIs really are. Ruzzia is the fascist country. Pootin is the NAZI. And you all support this fascism.

And yet the minute poor little Greece, Australia or Merika send a little Coastguard boat to stop illegal immigrants from Pakistan to enter, they are fascist.

GO FIGURE!

But you want to know what's great? Well, this fascism which you all support, has united all of Europe, all of NATO and even expanded them, united the collective west, and the East (Asia). We are now all united, just like the allies were in WW2.

So much so, Ruzzia has lost the war, and will be defeated because these evils that YOU support and this fascism that YOU support will not be allowed to pass.

And Greece is on the right side of history, with the EU, NATO, and collective West and is even sending arms to Ukraine just like we all are, because we all support JUSTICE, and we will defeat the fascism YOU support.

I have no time in reading such meaningless long and simply full of shit post my poor Bafidi. I have always thought of you as a Walter Mitty and you have proven me right on countless occasions. If you want to challenge my accusation how about we put everything aside and you update us of your development project you have invested to the tune of $3 million in? Show us a few pictures, if you have anything to sell like apartments, shops, warehouses please provide links, I might even want to invest in your project. Show me something tangible that might convince me that you are not the bullshitter I think you are.

Btw, if you really want decent returns for your investment then think about North Cyprus. Fucking hell man, the Germans are coming in plane loads and buying villas in bulk. Michael Ballack just bought a $2.4 million beachfront villa. Another German that you might consider as the Simon Cowel of Germany purchased 6 beachfront villas for all his family, his name escapes me right now. These villas are selling like hot cakes.

I don't know why I'm giving you this info, you're not building in Cyprus, you're not driving those 8 cylinder gas guzzlers, you're fucking broke. A penniless fantasist dickhead.

I remember this conversation about Bafiti wanting to invest 2.5 million (the exact figure may have been 3.5 million) and asking for advice who were good builders. If all you are going to ask things like that you will not be able to build a fuckin shed.

He is one hell of an idiot. I blame Kiks for entertaining his ideas of being a pilot when it has been established that where he claimed he got his license does not train pilots for civil aviation.


I haven't invested hardly anything and I am pretty sure I never mentioned money.

But yeh, when everything is done and dusted, the combined value of all these properties will likely exceed that figure by a fair ammount.

Secondly, I am only building 4 at a time. Then the next 4 and fund as I go. It's not hard.

And it's not something I haven't done before in Australia. That is why I can afford to buy property in Merika as well.

I have the land in Coral Bay and Konia and pafos and its all freehold as well. Logical next step is to use the land for its intended purpose and reap the financial benefits and keep 1 for myself.

I've already got a builder in Cyprus. A well known one as well. But they will be working with an Adelaide based company who will be sending a construction manager.

Pafos FC is doing well these days. :D
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Re: How good a liar are Greeks?

Postby Lordo » Fri Jun 23, 2023 9:06 pm

Yep I remember he also mentioned about some cousin from down under who will be controlling the project because he did not trust the builder.

You are a fuckin idiot.
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Re: How good a liar are Greeks?

Postby Londonrake » Sat Jun 24, 2023 7:27 am

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Re: How good a liar are Greeks?

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Re: How good a liar are Greeks?

Postby Lordo » Sat Jun 24, 2023 12:47 pm

You see you have to understand that Bafidi is not just a taxi driver or a pilot he is also a construction company in Australia. I love the way he switched to using "we" instead of "I" in this post.

What an idiot.

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Re: How good a liar are Greeks?

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:10 pm

Lordo wrote:Yep I remember he also mentioned about some cousin from down under who will be controlling the project because he did not trust the builder.

You are a fuckin idiot.


Get it right. It's my Koumbaro, who works for his Brother's Building company and whom have an in house architect who will also be doing the architecture and drawings in accordance with Cypriot codes as well, but will have a more gentler English and German style. The engineer is the father of a very famous Australian Greek Tennis Player. He is outsourced as he has his own firm.

Builder will be a cypriot Constructioin company

We have much better architecture in Adelaide. You should see my house there. Looks so ornate, you think you are in Buckingham Palace.
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Re: How good a liar are Greeks?

Postby Londonrake » Sat Jun 24, 2023 5:37 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Lordo wrote:Yep I remember he also mentioned about some cousin from down under who will be controlling the project because he did not trust the builder.

You are a fuckin idiot.


Get it right. It's my Koumbaro, who works for his Brother's Building company and whom have an in house architect who will also be doing the architecture and drawings in accordance with Cypriot codes as well, but will have a more gentler English and German style. The engineer is the father of a very famous Australian Greek Tennis Player. He is outsourced as he has his own firm.

Builder will be a cypriot Constructioin company

We have much better architecture in Adelaide. You should see my house there. Looks so ornate, you think you are in Buckingham Palace.


When it's all sorted, does "I knew Paphitis when he was just a run-of-the-mill pilot" get me a residential discount? :D
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Re: How good a liar are Greeks?

Postby Londonrake » Sun Jun 25, 2023 11:41 am

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Re: How good a liar are Greeks?

Postby Maximus » Sun Jun 25, 2023 11:52 am

an interesting article LR,

yes there are double standards but the standards for each case are also very different.

I notice that this is being referred to as a "greek boat" but it is everything but a Greek boat.

They estimate 350 Pakistanis were on the boat, approximately half of the passengers.

What the fck are 350 Pakistanis doing trying to illegally enter the EU.

Until there is a crackdown by their own governments on the illegal "travel agents" and smuggling rings, these tragedies will continue.

I will go as far to say that the Pakistani government also has to take some responsibility. They should be one of the first countries to offer to fund the rescue effort but I suspect, they someone else should pay.

Their citizens have been embarking on illegal donkey migration to other countries, at their peril for years. They need to do their part to stop it.
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