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[Londonrake]

Greek coastguard 'pressured' disaster survivors to blame Egyptian men https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66154654

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[Lordo]

So here is a right any refugee has.

The right not to be punished for irregular entry into the territory of a contracting State (Article 31)

And here we have a civilised Swineland which will punish refugees for exercising their right by refusing them the right to stay and send them to Rwanda and they will have to stay there even if they win their case. And we will pay 169,000 pounds for this service.

Now that's what I call civilisation.

[repulsewarrior]

...coming to conclusions that allow "us" to generalise about the "others" is easy.

Something surely went wrong, people died; without being so quick to blame one hopes reason will find answers where such a tragedy cannot happen again.

...is it "Greeks" you guys hate, if that's the case i am with you, and "Turks" are they the common enemy no better than "Greeks", i ask you.

Speaking as a Citizen of the World, are you one of 'us' (Greek, Turkish, Cypriot, or whatever)?

...if it were off the coast of Libya, or Italy no less, these events i imagine would not have the same significance for "you"/you.

[Londonrake]

And here we have a civilised Swineland which will punish refugees for exercising their right by refusing them the right to stay and send them to Rwanda and they will have to stay there even if they win their case. And we will pay 169,000 pounds for this service.

Now that's what I call civilisation.

For a long time you've referred to my country as "Swineland" and its people as "Swine". Perhaps you might have a glimmer of how I take issue with that?

The UK (Swineland) - despite your repeated attempts to portray it as 1930s Nazi Germany - has always tended to be a friendly and welcoming country to immigrants. The OBS figures show that up to mid June 2022 1.1 million arrived and were absorbed. That figure's expected to increase this year.

All countries try to control their borders. Nevertheless, at the moment over 50,000 a year are entering the UK illegally. Crossing the channel in small boats. Last Saturday set a record. 700 in the day. That's an invasion. Helped by the UK Border Force (known nowadays as the UK taxi force). Most of them are ME young men. They are not "refugees" they have crossed the entire EU to get to the UK for economic reasons. Get a life - Turkish Cypriot.

The current bill for putting these people up in hotels is about £5,000,000 a day. 2 billion a year.

That, in a country where there are over 250,000 homeless and an estimated 200,000 living on the streets.

Story's like this are routine:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... orset-home

With regard to this issue, I have had a belly full of your bitching. Trust me. If you keep referring to my country as "Swineland" and the population as "Swine" I am going to seriously fuck you up on this forum.

Think about it.

[Maximus]

Bordo is an ungrateful g.. and he wont be happy until the european tax payer is working only to support these self imposing "refugees".

he wants more to come and more to die trying so he has got something more to complain and plonkenstein about.

[Lordo]

If a country has signed up the international Law Refugee Convention, they have no choice but to offer sanctuary to all refugees. If you do not want to do that by all means declare you no longer will adhere to the law.

Why is it that every time my plonkerstein friends post something couple of mongrel dogs come to mind sitting outside the butcher shop waiting for some bones.

If your English is too week ask somebody to explain to you about refugee rights but before that ask them to explain the meaning first otherwise it will go in one ear and come out another.

[Lordo]

News from Swineland fresh off the press.

The pay award is set to cost the Government around £2bn, £1bn of which is to be raised by increasing the cost of visa applications.

Work visas and visit visas are to be increased by 15 per cent, while the cost of study visas, certificates of sponsorship, settlement, citizenship, wider entry clearance, leave to remain and priority visas will increase by at least 20 per cent.

The Government is also planning to increase the NHS surcharge charged to migrants in the UK from £624 to £1,035 per year. This cost is paid upfront when an individual applies for a visa and is in addition to any visa fees.

Visa costs vary depending on the type of visa a person is applying for, for example it costs £1,048 for a partner, parent or child to apply to join a family member in the UK, with this visa often having to be renewed every few years.

https://inews.co.uk/news/migrant-workers-fees-hiked-public-sector-pay-rise-2480097#:~:text=Migrants%20who%20are%20already%20living%20in%20the%20UK,for%20public%20sector%20pay%20increases%2C%20charities%20have%20warned.

[Maximus]

If a country has signed up the international Law Refugee Convention, they have no choice but to offer sanctuary to all refugees. If you do not want to do that by all means declare you no longer will adhere to the law.

Why is it that every time my plonkerstein friends post something couple of mongrel dogs come to mind sitting outside the butcher shop waiting for some bones.

If your English is too week ask somebody to explain to you about refugee rights but before that ask them to explain the meaning first otherwise it will go in one ear and come out another.

plonkenstein, stop using my words and also stop labeling all migrants as refugees.

I think it is very clear what we are talking about here and its you that needs to understand that not all migrants are refugees.

it is statistically proven over the years of processing these claims that the overwhelming majority of asylum applications are bogus.

So once and for all, get a grip on the situation and get it through your thick head that generalizing as you do is grossly inaccurate.

[Maximus]

If a country has signed up the international Law Refugee Convention, they have no choice but to offer sanctuary to all refugees.

If this is the case, then Turkey should be giving sanctuary to these people as it is one of the main countries migrants cross to enter the EU.

Turkey also signed a readmission agreement with the EU to take back all illegal migrants using its territory to enter the EU. There are many that fly in on Turkish airlines on student or tourist visa then illegally cross borders to apply for asylum in EU member states or the UK.

So what we have here is a case of double speak from you.

On the one hand, Turkey is using them to extort the EU for political gain by threatening to open the flood gates and on the other, you say all refugees can go wherever they like. But that is not the case, Turkey signed up to the convention on refugees, so she has not choice but to offer sanctuary to all refugees.

[Lordo]

For the record I do not use anybody else words. I am perfectly capable of making up my own if one does not exist.

Plonkerstien is not anybody else's word and it means exactly what it says.

Now back to Swine land politics.

Yesterday Fishy refused to give Doctors and Nurses at least a pay rise to match inflation saying they will not increase debt to give a pay rise to the very people who risked their lives during the pandemic to save lives, and the Fishy stood outside no 10 tapped a pan to show his appreciation. Now don't expect any decent treatment regarding pay.

Interesting tactic they used in this case. First they claimed that they will not accept the pay level so called "Independent Review Body " they set up themselves would come up with and then when the advice was 6% they accepted it making it look like they have compromised without even any pay negotiations.

To give Doctors and Nurses the pay rise they demanded would have cost the government 2 billion. Unfortunately it was too much for them.

And yet they have proposed to remove inheritance tax which will cost us 7 billion. This will benefit the richest 1% of the people. Add to that the cap they removed for their rich friends so they can put in their pensions unlimited amount tax free and you begin to understand which side the Swine are on.

What a way to run the country. Is there an end to this nightmare?