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[Pyrpolizer]

:lol:

Can always tell when it’s “back of the net”. You feel compelled to raise a thread on the matter (it’s called digging a bigger hole). Just like the 2019 UK election debacle. You know, when you disappeared for a year. Until the months of dust you’d kicked up before it settled. One of your first efforts after you quietly slipped back on the forum late one night was to raise a thread on it.

It’s simple really. You can’t lecture piously about International Law, in relation to the UK migrant issue, whilst glibly cheering the Russians on in Ukraine - and retain credibility.

All of your Whataboutism doesn’t cloud the hypocrisy involved.

Here we go again. All about persona analysis...
And your comment on the issue ISSSSS??????

[Pyrpolizer]

@ Lordo:
For a start I know I will have a hard time watching idiot Petraeus (yes I watched many of his interviews, they are all crap) who disgracefully has Greek roots.
I will comment when I 'll watch it.

[Londonrake]

:lol:

Can always tell when it’s “back of the net”. You feel compelled to raise a thread on the matter (it’s called digging a bigger hole). Just like the 2019 UK election debacle. You know, when you disappeared for a year. Until the months of dust you’d kicked up before it settled. One of your first efforts after you quietly slipped back on the forum late one night was to raise a thread on it.

It’s simple really. You can’t lecture piously about International Law, in relation to the UK migrant issue, whilst glibly cheering the Russians on in Ukraine - and retain credibility.

All of your Whataboutism doesn’t cloud the hypocrisy involved.

Here we go again. All about persona analysis...
And your comment on the issue ISSSSS??????

My comments are valid. International Law it seems is a subjective thing, in some cases (Russia’s intervention in Syria, here UK migration policy) it’s sacrosanct. In others - Ukraine, China’s actions in the South China Sea, US activities - not so. Depending apparently upon a person’s POV.

If Lordo wants to broadcast his, often erroneous, views without my commenting I invite him to cut out the racism. Which to him also seems to be a subjective matter.

It’s been going on for 20 months and had he been talking about Cyprus as Swineland and the Cypriot people as Swine for that long I’m sure you’d feel pretty much the same.

[Lordo]

Slightly out of order but never mind.

The CIA spearheaded Project FF, a clandestine effort to pressure Egyptian king Farouk I into embracing pro-American political reforms. After he resisted, the project shifted towards deposing him, and Farouk was subsequently overthrown in a military coup in 1952

Niiiiice now that's what I call within International right.

And here is another.

In 1952, the CIA launched Operation PBFortune and, in 1954, Operation PBSuccess to depose the democratically elected Guatemalan President Jacobo Árbenz and ended the Guatemalan Revolution.

The coup installed the military dictatorship of Carlos Castillo Armas, the first in a series of U.S.-backed dictators who ruled Guatemala.

Guatemala subsequently plunged into a civil war that cost thousands of lives and ended all democratic expression for decades

Don't you just love how the Yankees operate within international Law?

[Lordo]

Here is a couple more.

The CIA armed an indigenous insurgency in order to oppose the invasion and subsequent control of Tibet by China
They sponsored a failed revolt against Indonesian President Sukarno in 1958.

As part of the Eisenhower Doctrine, the U.S. also deployed troops to Lebanon in Operation Blue Bat.

And who can forget this one?
President Eisenhower also imposed embargoes on Cuba in 1958.

[Lordo]

Now 1055 and 1958 is particularly relent to the Cypriots.

In 1955 the Greek Deep State set up EOKA to Enosise Cyprus with Greece. The Greek Deep State itself was Set up by the Yanks to stop all left wing parties coming to power in Europe.

1958 the Turkish Deep State also at the direction of the Yankees set up TMT with the intention of Taksim. So Cyprus can be divided into two. One under the control of Greece and the other Turkey and hence within NAtO via the back door as it were.

Of course when it came to 74 Yaknees were in total control of the events.

[Lordo]

This one is particularly relevant to the Ukrainian war as the shoe was on the other foot. It was Yankees who objected to Cuba having Russian missiles. Clearly the Russians were far more logical then when compared to the Yankees actions in Ukraine.

In 1961, the CIA attempted to depose Cuban president Fidel Castro through the Bay of Pigs Invasion, however the invasion was doomed to fail when President Kennedy withdrew overt U.S. air support at the last minute. During Operation Mongoose, the CIA aggressively pursued its efforts to overthrow Castro's regime by conducting various assassination attempts on Castro and facilitating U.S.-sponsored terrorist attacks in Cuba.

American efforts to sabotage Cuba's national security played a significant role in the events leading up to the Cuban Missile Crisis, which saw the U.S. blockade the island during a confrontation with the Soviet Union.

[Londonrake]

So "International Law" has turned into just another of Lordo's zillion anti-US broadcasts.

Well, like buying IBM I guess you can't go wrong with that.

[Lordo]

So "International Law" has turned into just another of Lordo's zillion anti-US broadcasts.

Well, like buying IBM I guess you can't go wrong with that.

Are you saying Americans have not done all the above or are you saying they have and it is all within International Law.
You were asking if Russia broke International Law by invading Ukraine. We will get to that too. Just giving you a bit of background context.

The art of being a good salesman is to close all the "I do not want your product" doors before you get to the punchline.

Have you ever done any selling? I bet you could not sell the bible to a Christian.

[Robin Hood]

Believe it or not there is no such thing as ‘International’ Law!

People assume that a Nation is ruled by a higher authority, just we as residents of a Nation are. In other words WE do as we are told to do according to rules (Laws) imposed on us ....... our consent is not required, we have no choice in the matter.

International Law is applied by agreement!

“.......... a body of rules established by custom or treaty and recognized by nations as binding in their relations with one another.”

This is how the US can refuse to recognise the authority of the ICC but will use it to punish others, because they have unilaterally declared themselves The Exceptional Nation. Only those ‘Laws’ the US agrees with are valid and only then if it suits the US. The idea of a Rules based society applies only to the rules the US signs up to ...... until it no longer suits them to do so and then they cancel any agreements they no longer want or agree with.

This is why the US (and their Allies) recognises Taiwan’s claims to be an independent Nation and reject the idea it is part of China, but when it comes to Donbas declaring they do not want to be part of Ukraine ...... the US concept of International Law changes.

When the US declares we need a ‘rules based Global society’ they are referring to THEIR rules.

No wonder we have wars!

Did you know that since the creation of the PRC, China has never been at war? On the other hand, since the US declaration of Independence it has only had five (?) years where it has NOT been at war, and most of them have been fought on lands belonging to others, simply to impose US 'International' Law on those that disagree with the US version!