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[Leonidas]

My last post in this forum that has to do with solutions to the Cyprus problem.

Too bad that even my great great grandchildren will not get to see a solution. Just like the Greeks in 1453 when they hoped that they will be back to Konstantinoupolis........................


Unless there is a drastic change in mentality in Cyprus.

[Leonidas]

Like I said.
UNBELIVEABLE!!!!!

[cypezokyli]

ehm.. Leonidas i am not sure of what kind of an answer you expected from this post !!

[Leonidas]

ehm.. Leonidas i am not sure of what kind of an answer you expected from this post !!

No answer really.
Things do not look like they will change in the near future. Mentality wise.
So I am not wasting my time trying to convince people that the only way we will see a solution is by changing our ways of thinking.

It is doable. Well, I know I have changed my way of thinking from when I was there.

We can go on as we are now and in 500 plus years, our kids kids will be saying the same about Cyprus as our ancenstors said when we lost Konstantinoupolis.

Pali me xronia me kairous pali dika mas thane!!!

[ausbroker]

i agree with you mate
things can change, it already has
i remember when the border opened i was
like omg whoever goes there is dead
i was wrong
nowdays im tired of the damn problem.
either give it back or keep it so we can move on
its like before the border was open we just got used to it and that was it
its like the other side didnt exist.... hmmm anyway we will see how we go

[lysi]

Can us cypriots end the occupation by sitting on are fat arses and doing nothing ?
The turks know how weak and pathetic the cyprus government is, also we cant expect any help from greece because there government is as useless as the cyprus government.
The turks are under no pressure to end the occupation.

[Rude Gal]

Can us cypriots end the occupation by sitting on are fat arses and doing nothing ?
The turks know how weak and pathetic the cyprus government is, also we cant expect any help from greece because there government is as useless as the cyprus government.
The turks are under no pressure to end the occupation.

Bro, you seeing this situation in the wrong way. I don't blame you when all you get in schools, the Church, the media, in the army etc is that Turks = badness.

You have to remember that it is predominantly Turkish Cypriots who are in the North and we do not "occupy" - it is our home and we got a right to be here forever! And you cannot take the Turkish out of me, nor the Cypriot. It comes as one whole package! So please learn to deal with it.

The Turkish army is not an issue if you reconcile with your former partners and co-owners of Cyprus - us the Turkish Cypriots. All else will fall into place, including the army's presence on the island...

And just as FYI, I hear the Russian ambassador to Greece today re-inforced Putin's message earlier in week, that the TC policy of reconcilliation is right approach and that TCs are legal/political equals to GCs.

Why is all this happening?

It is not because PapaD is weak. It is cos he is a moron and his policies are wrong and bad for Cyprus (see another post re football ban that I just started.). If he is allowed to continue as is, he will end up taking GCs to a place you really do not want - partition!

Either we can work things out, or we cannot. If we want former, then it starts with PapaD ending the policy of embargoes against Turkish Cypriots (this is not weakness, but ensuring both sides can move closer together, or we will have an East-West Germany nightmare re: island's economy) and talking to Talat (who he will be sharing power with). It ends when both sides have solution they can both live with.

It just needs a leap of faith, and if TCs can do it, so can GCs.

The more GCs speak up like Leo and Aus, the quicker attitudes in the South will change, and we can all move on.

[Rude Gal]

The turks are under no pressure to end the occupation.

Just so you know, Turkish Cypriot pain started in 1955 and has continued till today. The war may have stopped the physical abuse, but the impact of the embargoes (that have existed since 63) hurts us EVERY DAY. That is the BIGGEST INCENTIVE for us to end this problem. Which is why we are ready for compromise.

It hurts Turkey who came in meaning to do good, and has been demonised the world over for its role in Cyprus. They got a BIG INCENTIVE to end this problem.

But where is the GC incentive?

They recognised, they in the EU, the world (has till recently) sees them as sole victims in Cyprus, their people enjoy a great standard of living, their main man is a new tennis superstar, why change any of it? As we've seen on this Forum, for some the present status quo is preferable to compromise.

So who is under pressure to change and drive for a solution?

[Piratis]

You have to remember that it is predominantly Turkish Cypriots who are in the North and we do not "occupy"

This is because you performed ethnic cleansing against Greek Cypriots who were the majority in the northern part of Cyprus.

You did know that GCs were the majority in Kerinia, Morfou, Famagusta etc, until you ethnically cleansed them in 1974 right? You also know that the land still belongs to those GCs, right? Or they don't teach you this at your schools?

If we want former, then it starts with PapaD ending the policy of embargoes against Turkish Cypriots

No, it starts by ending the illegalities and the violations of our human rights.

[Piratis]

Just so you know, Turkish Cypriot pain started in 1955 and has continued till today. The war may have stopped the physical abuse, but the impact of the embargoes (that have existed since 63) hurts us EVERY DAY. That is the BIGGEST INCENTIVE for us to end this problem. Which is why we are ready for compromise.

There you go. You said it yourself. If there were no embargoes you would have no incentive.

It hurts Turkey who came in meaning to do good

Hey, why they didn't do even more good. They killed 6000 people. They should have killed a lot more. They ethnically cleansed 1/3rd of the population of Cyprus, they should have ethnically cleansed the 2/3rds.

But where is the GC incentive?

Taking back the land that you stole from us and restoring our human rights is not an incentive for you?