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Bir Sɩr Adam - One Secret Man.

Postby Lordo » Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:21 pm

Finally I have may hands on the much anticipated book about TMT. I found out they went through hell to get it published and finally achieved it. As yet only in Turkish but the Greek version is being worked on.

One thing very clear, the aim of TMT was Taksim. But this was not the aim of the Turkish government. She realised what a good deal TCs got and wanted to protect the Republic. However Deep State (Ozel Ordu Dairesi) had other plans from 1958 under the direction of the CIA and was hell bent on Taksim. This is why when Kuchuck asked for help in 1964, Inonu advised him to go back to the parliament and claim their seats. The TCs were not so keen on Taksim so they had to be encouraged to hate GCs so they decided to put many more bombs not only the two well known ones but other ones to the encourage fighting.

Once TMT fighting started first in 1958 and then December 1963 TMT had to distinct function. One was protecting the TC population from attacks which was the function of the majority of the TMT members. After all all Mujahids were TMT members under the control of the Bayraktar. There was a small minority that went out of the enclaves and captured innocent GCs and either used them to exchange captured TCs or murdered them if exchange was not arranged. They also killed quite a few left-wing TCs too both before and after 1960.

I understand the function of EOKA pre-1960, but what was the function of EOKA after December 1963. They certainly had no defensive duties as there was no case where TCs attacked GCs like in Kochina, Kofunye, Aytotoro, Piroi, Aysozomeno etc etc 100 or so villages where TCs and GCs cohabited for centuries without any real problems.

Other than killing innocent TCs and GCs both before and after 1960, what was their function in December 1963 and beyond?
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Re: Bir Sɩr Adam - One Secret Man.

Postby Lordo » Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:23 pm

One thing I did noticed this time round driving through downtown Nicosia was the fact that there were a hell of a lot less Greek flags hanging.
Any ideas why?

I guess the recent vote on declaring Grivas not such a hero must have helped.
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Re: Bir Sɩr Adam - One Secret Man.

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:04 pm

...the men of EOKA went home. They had achieved their goal; Freedom, freedom from colonialists, and an identity as Cypriots to represent themselves.

...EOKAB was something else, i dare say a corruption and of International proportions; a Hateful enterprise against the People of Cyprus, rather than their exploitation like mere chattel.

...if EOKAB was Cypriot, rather than ''Greek'', it would be remembered by Greeks, but they are not. And they were not when the coup failed after 3 days without Cypriot support.

...Turkey still suffers from the hateful dogma of ''Turks''. Like the ''Greeks'' i imagine their end will have its roots in Cyprus, too.
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Re: Bir Sɩr Adam - One Secret Man.

Postby Lordo » Fri Jan 13, 2023 1:59 pm

This idea that EOKA went home and EOKA-B took over makes no sense at all RW.

According to a Greek secret service memo, on May 26, 1960 Makarios gathered together the section leaders and sought to reestablish EOKA with a view to repudiating the agreements before independence could be declared.


Bombs exploded and gun fire to commemorate EOKA day
Makarios at one meeting said " As we bow before their graves, we hear the commanding voices of our martyrs "Beyond the Graves, march forward"


Dengtash responded by asking for his resignation and commenting " If that's what he is hearing, he will be sending thousands more to their graves"


Does this look like EOKA ever went away? it was in government organising the new uprising.

This new book gets to the core of what TMT got up to during this period. Makarios Drousiotis has done similar work in the south. How many people have actually red his books?

On another subject, does anybody know if Drousiotis's book "Crans-Montana" been printed in English?
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Re: Bir Sɩr Adam - One Secret Man.

Postby Lordo » Fri Jan 13, 2023 2:21 pm

How can a book written factually be banned from being published. I have a feeling the Paradise Island is not so paradisic as everybody pretends.

https://www.occrp.org/en/daily/17230-cypriot-writer-claims-police-is-trying-to-ban-his-book-about-corruption
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Re: Bir Sɩr Adam - One Secret Man.

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Jan 15, 2023 1:07 am

...we have discussed this before Lordo, how things changed; let's not forget it was not two but four (or five) assassination attempts that Makarios survived.
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Re: Bir Sɩr Adam - One Secret Man.

Postby Lordo » Fri Aug 18, 2023 5:29 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...we have discussed this before Lordo, how things changed; let's not forget it was not two but four (or five) assassination attempts that Makarios survived.

I seem to remember it was 3 before I left Cyprus and one after.
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Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Aug 19, 2023 4:55 am

...so the coup was the fifth time he had to resist mortal danger?
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Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Aug 19, 2023 4:59 am

...and by then, ''who'' was he; it is hard to say but not "Greek".
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