Lordo wrote:Kikapu wrote:Maximus wrote:Why is it going to get ugly in the courts? What is illegal about sending refugees to Rwanda for processing?
Most probably their Human Rights won’t be protected there and subject to abuse.
I expect you to be better informed Kikapu. The reason is their Human Rights are abused before they even get there. UK has no legal right to take them to another country. Which is why no other country would accept them. Rwanda extracted a heavy price to accept them. But of course accepting them is not a crime, only forcing them to go there is.
Of course the real issue is that they are only getting a one way ticket there and will not be able to return to the UK even if their applications are successful. Statistically 80% are successful. And of course even if they are taken there, they will make their way back at a huge risk to their lives far worse than they took first time round.
But the real downer is how much it costs. Australia has been doing it for some time. They too about 3500 people to Neru Island and it cost the Ausies a cool 3.5 billion dollars so far. Not million, I am talking about billion. They could have given them 100,000 dollars and they would have returned to their homes to make a living. Stupidity has no limits but I guess they were descended from common criminal.
The whole policy acts as a deterrance and it has been extremely successful for Australia.
Some years ago, there were hundreds, if not thosaands of boat loads of illegal immigrants trying to make the journey across treacherous seas to Australia. The idea was to seek asylum. In which case Australian Courts would be clogged for decades. Not to mention the fact that it is estimated that 50,000 illegal immigrants perished at sea, never to be seen again.
Then, AUSGOV decided to take drastic action. Mandatory detention was bought in. Anyone who was caught breaking Federal Laws and Australian Borders, would be sent into detention centres in Darwin and Port Hedland. More action from AUSGOV was to take place in order to stop the illegal human trafficking. Illegal boats would be intercepted in International Waters by the RAAF, RAN, Customs, Federal Police, and Surveillance Australia. Various technologies would be used, from military ships, patrol boats, Army units, helicopters, drones, satellites, JORN Radar facilities, and Coastwatch.
Australia now possesed one of the most advance surveillance umbrellas known to mankind - multilayered and cutting edge.
The idea that every boat would be intercepted and taken to overseas processing facilities in other countries. 99.9% would be deported back to their last point of departure. Those who applied for asylum, had an onus of proof on them to prove their claims. They would end up in prisons for many years before accepting deportation. The hardliners, were sent to USA who granted them asylum, but they are not allowewd to come to Australia even as a tourist as they are convicted felons. It is actually amazing that Trump, yes trump, allowed them into the USA.
But this hardline approach stopped illegal immigration.
Mission accomplished.
The same policies exist to this day. And there is widespread support from the Australian electorate. Any Government that departs from such policy will result in ballot defeat.
These policies have already been tested in Australian Courts and the general result was that the AUSGOV was acting lawfully.
Even if that was not the case, AUSGOV can invoke anti terrorism laws and also national security to bypass the Federal Courts.
The very same policies were used for the last 2 years against civilian cruise ships. Under the Emergency Act, AUSGOV would use military ships, and even board cruise ships with tourists from around the world, to forcefully turn around ships that were prohibited from entering Australian Waters and docking at Australian Ports. These ships would even declare an SOS, in order to obligate Australia to allow these ships into Australia, but to no avail. Sick passengers were evacuated by military helicopters, but the ships were turned around. Only 2 or 3 ships made it through and each time, no passengers were allowed to disembark. Even if they were critically ill.
In the end, our country, and we decide who comes in and who doesn't.
