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[Kikapu]

Greece has the longest coast line in the eastern med and Egypt and Israel are closer to the gas fields than Turkey is.

Besides, Turkey has more land than Cyprus and Greece does. Its only fair that Cyprus and Greece should get a larger share of the sea so its fair.

Since you ignore the sovereign rights of EEZ's, maybe you will understand that BS better.

What was you saying about being a peace loving Cypriot again?

Clearly you did not understand what I wrote. I have been very clear and factual. But when Turkey whacks Cyprus and Greec perhaps you will get your senses back.

The way EEZ calculates resource rights is full of shit. You put in shit and gues what you get shit out. Of all people you should know that boy, now what have you done with that brush?

There is work to be done.get on with it.

Except Turkey accepts EEZ calculations in the Black Sea because it favours her, but not accepting it in the Med.

In what way does it favour her? Last I looked Turkey does not have a small island near Crimea so she can claim 97% of the black sea?

You really missing the whole point of the argument? Do you understand why it is unfair for Greece to claim 97% of the sea?

The countries on the Black Sea have agreed on their EEZ which Turkey has the lion’s share of it, using the same EEZ calculations used by UNCLOS. However, when it comes to the Med and the Aegean Sea, Turkey no longer agrees with the same EEZ rules to calculate and instead wants to use the continental shelf argument to deny islands of their own international recognized EEZ, but instead to limit them to only 12 miles. Turkey does not even agree on the 12 miles for the islands of Greece, but only 6 miles or else it is war. It is not a question of is it fair for Greece and Cyprus to have so much of the sea, but rather, is it legal what the question should be. Does Turkey deny the UK, Ireland, Iceland, Australia, Japan and hundreds more islands their EEZ or is it only when it does not favour her?

[Maximus]

You really missing the whole point of the argument? Do you understand why it is unfair for Greece to claim 97% of the sea?

No you are missing the point dingle berry.

The whole point of the argument is why it is unfair for Turkey to claim all of Anatolia and most of the east med when Cyprus is just a small island.

The Turks need to share equally.

[Get Real!]

Maybe Lordo calculates EEZ based on the Ottoman EFKAV foundation!

[Maximus]

I think he calculates it by the length of the coastline and he is still incorrect on who has the longest one between Greece and Turkey.

Or maybe it is something that involves political equality and sharing, which he still get wrong.

The GC's should be entitled to half of Anatolia and 30% of Turkiye's budget then.

[repulsewarrior]

...and yet the other extreme, Turkey having everything she wants, has no benefit for the rest of us, those not "Turkish", never mind Cyprus.

(let's not forget the Jews and the Greeks are cousins too) (let's not forget that Greeks and Turks are cousins too)

...indeed, who thinks that Israel is naive enough to mix with Erdogan, a "Turk" but no Turk, it seems; a kin to no one.

A pipeline to Turkey is greatly beneficial, through Cyprus as a hub and an honest broker the region greatly benefits selling to Turkey gas, building capacity by integrating these infrastructures more broadly.

...Cyprus exists. If he wants the gas, there is no getting round that; friends with Israel, friends with Egypt, friends with Palestine, friends with Italy, to name a few, means friends with Cyprus too.

[Lordo]

Greece has the longest coast line in the eastern med and Egypt and Israel are closer to the gas fields than Turkey is.

Besides, Turkey has more land than Cyprus and Greece does. Its only fair that Cyprus and Greece should get a larger share of the sea so its fair.

Since you ignore the sovereign rights of EEZ's, maybe you will understand that BS better.

What was you saying about being a peace loving Cypriot again?

Clearly you did not understand what I wrote. I have been very clear and factual. But when Turkey whacks Cyprus and Greec perhaps you will get your senses back.

The way EEZ calculates resource rights is full of shit. You put in shit and gues what you get shit out. Of all people you should know that boy, now what have you done with that brush?

There is work to be done.get on with it.

Except Turkey accepts EEZ calculations in the Black Sea because it favours her, but not accepting it in the Med.

In what way does it favour her? Last I looked Turkey does not have a small island near Crimea so she can claim 97% of the black sea?

You really missing the whole point of the argument? Do you understand why it is unfair for Greece to claim 97% of the sea?

The countries on the Black Sea have agreed on their EEZ which Turkey has the lion’s share of it, using the same EEZ calculations used by UNCLOS. However, when it comes to the Med and the Aegean Sea, Turkey no longer agrees with the same EEZ rules to calculate and instead wants to use the continental shelf argument to deny islands of their own international recognized EEZ, but instead to limit them to only 12 miles. Turkey does not even agree on the 12 miles for the islands of Greece, but only 6 miles or else it is war. It is not a question of is it fair for Greece and Cyprus to have so much of the sea, but rather, is it legal what the question should be. Does Turkey deny the UK, Ireland, Iceland, Australia, Japan and hundreds more islands their EEZ or is it only when it does not favour her?

I don't think you really understand what the lion share means my friend.

Now explain how Greece can claim 97%. I noticed you did not mention that, Island or no ilsand, 50% is fair. The law as written is unfair and it must have exceptions for islands. They certainly can have a % too but not the lion share as you put it.

As to Greeks wanting a share in Anatolia, well they tried getting it and got their ass fucked. They are welcome to try any time they like.

[Lordo]

I think he calculates it by the length of the coastline and he is still incorrect on who has the longest one between Greece and Turkey.

Or maybe it is something that involves political equality and sharing, which he still get wrong.

The GC's should be entitled to half of Anatolia and 30% of Turkiye's budget then.

Loupadjis gavole.

Hold on to what you have boy, cause one of these days you will lose what you have.

Now where is that fuckin brush, what have you done with it? Is that why you are walking with a funny gape.

[repulsewarrior]

What of the Treaty of Lausanne?

...the very foundation of Turkey; toss it out a window eh?

woof woof, i used to say to vp; come back to reality Lordo, your dogmatic attachment to the world as a "Turk" seems to be showing.

[Lordo]

What of the Treaty of Lausanne?

...the very foundation of Turkey; toss it out a window eh?

woof woof, i used to say to vp; come back to reality Lordo, your dogmatic attachment to the world as a "Turk" seems to be showing.

What's Lausanne got to do with all this? It is GR and Maximoshittos who wants a chunk of Turkey and they can have it.

I am not siding with Turkey RW. I am simply pointing out that the way calculations are done is simply wrong. Which is why a lot of countries have not signed it. Islands have been given far too much at the expense of mainlands.

You would have to be fuckin blind not to be able to see that. It is not just Turkey this issue is all over where there is an island near mainland which belongs to another country.

SO accroding to this law, UK has all of the Atlantic ocean as it has Falkland islands. Like hell she does.

[Kikapu]

Greece has the longest coast line in the eastern med and Egypt and Israel are closer to the gas fields than Turkey is.

Besides, Turkey has more land than Cyprus and Greece does. Its only fair that Cyprus and Greece should get a larger share of the sea so its fair.

Since you ignore the sovereign rights of EEZ's, maybe you will understand that BS better.

What was you saying about being a peace loving Cypriot again?

Clearly you did not understand what I wrote. I have been very clear and factual. But when Turkey whacks Cyprus and Greec perhaps you will get your senses back.

The way EEZ calculates resource rights is full of shit. You put in shit and gues what you get shit out. Of all people you should know that boy, now what have you done with that brush?

There is work to be done.get on with it.

Except Turkey accepts EEZ calculations in the Black Sea because it favours her, but not accepting it in the Med.

In what way does it favour her? Last I looked Turkey does not have a small island near Crimea so she can claim 97% of the black sea?

You really missing the whole point of the argument? Do you understand why it is unfair for Greece to claim 97% of the sea?

The countries on the Black Sea have agreed on their EEZ which Turkey has the lion’s share of it, using the same EEZ calculations used by UNCLOS. However, when it comes to the Med and the Aegean Sea, Turkey no longer agrees with the same EEZ rules to calculate and instead wants to use the continental shelf argument to deny islands of their own international recognized EEZ, but instead to limit them to only 12 miles. Turkey does not even agree on the 12 miles for the islands of Greece, but only 6 miles or else it is war. It is not a question of is it fair for Greece and Cyprus to have so much of the sea, but rather, is it legal what the question should be. Does Turkey deny the UK, Ireland, Iceland, Australia, Japan and hundreds more islands their EEZ or is it only when it does not favour her?

I don't think you really understand what the lion share means my friend.

Now explain how Greece can claim 97%. I noticed you did not mention that, Island or no ilsand, 50% is fair. The law as written is unfair and it must have exceptions for islands. They certainly can have a % too but not the lion share as you put it.

As to Greeks wanting a share in Anatolia, well they tried getting it and got their ass fucked. They are welcome to try any time they like.

As you can see, in the Black Sea, Turkey has the lion’s share of the EEZ over each of the other 5 individual countries sharing the same sea and Turkey and ALL the other countries accept the results because of geography which has determined which country gets how much EEZ based on the calculations. Now, geography also dictates which countries get how much EEZ based on the same calculations made in Eastern Mediterranean, no?

The end result has nothing to do with fairness as to what % which country got since it is based on geography ONLY and nothing else. If Greece and Cyprus has the lion’s share of the EEZ between them over what Turkey has in comparison, well, that’s just the way the cookie crumbles.

With your hand on your heart Lordo, if the shoe was on the other foot and Turkey had all the islands of Greece as well as Cyprus totaling 97% of the EEZ, do think Turkey would give Greece 50% of it just to be neighbourly?

That was a rhetorical question!