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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Maximus » Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:03 pm

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Get Real! wrote:What’s good for the goose is good for the gander…

Russia, having witnessed the criminal Wests’ systematic campaign of personal property theft and harassment against Russian-born individuals living in the US and the EU, has now embarked on its own version of the same prompting this warning from the US State Department…

https://ru.usembassy.gov/russia-level-4-do-not-travel/

But it’s too late and too hard to escape because all the previous shortsighted travel and money-accessing sanctions imposed by the West are now hurting citizens scrambling for cover from both sides.

There are now some arrests of US, Brit and EU citizens inside of Russia and the shit is about to hit the fan!

Meanwhile a jewish cross-dressing freak hiding inside a Polish bunker (the mouthpiece of the foolish West?) is still shouting MORE! MORE! MORE! …as his thirst for worldwide calamity cannot be easily quenched!


the west is doing the right thing and fighting Russia economically.

As for the property "theft". There are laws in the west which stipulate that the proceeds of crime can be confiscated by the state. Most of these Oligarchs are Russian mafia and political scoundrels and criminals much like Pootin with his 200 billion personal fortune. These proceeds were plundered from the Russian people during the Soviet collapse whilst others made their fortunes from the seedy Russian Mafia undeworld.

It's only fitting they all be dispossessed!

As for American, British and EU assets in Russia, it's onlt fitting they too suffer for being stupid enough to invest in a shit hole like Russia, ruled by a tyrant. Let's just call it the stupidity tax. Well deserved.

I mean what were they thinking? Why would anyone want to invest in Russia when you can invest in USA, Canada, Australia, Switzerland, UK or any of the Scandinavians.


Do you remember the Cypriot haircut? They stole money from depositors because Cyprus was apparently a laundromat for dirty Russian money. But this was nothing in comparison to what the accusers were doing. The rich Russians were investing in London and cleaning money through German banks to the tune of hundreds of billions. But now, they have decided to seize this dirty money.

Where have the proceeds of these crimes and plunder of the Russian people gone do you think? Back to the Russian people or in the pockets of the people that accepted the dirty money in the first place? :roll:

Where is the evidence that these assets are the proceeds of crime anyway? Do you see how "we" just believe anything the media tells us.....
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby DT. » Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:21 pm

Maximus wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:What’s good for the goose is good for the gander…

Russia, having witnessed the criminal Wests’ systematic campaign of personal property theft and harassment against Russian-born individuals living in the US and the EU, has now embarked on its own version of the same prompting this warning from the US State Department…

https://ru.usembassy.gov/russia-level-4-do-not-travel/

But it’s too late and too hard to escape because all the previous shortsighted travel and money-accessing sanctions imposed by the West are now hurting citizens scrambling for cover from both sides.

There are now some arrests of US, Brit and EU citizens inside of Russia and the shit is about to hit the fan!

Meanwhile a jewish cross-dressing freak hiding inside a Polish bunker (the mouthpiece of the foolish West?) is still shouting MORE! MORE! MORE! …as his thirst for worldwide calamity cannot be easily quenched!


the west is doing the right thing and fighting Russia economically.

As for the property "theft". There are laws in the west which stipulate that the proceeds of crime can be confiscated by the state. Most of these Oligarchs are Russian mafia and political scoundrels and criminals much like Pootin with his 200 billion personal fortune. These proceeds were plundered from the Russian people during the Soviet collapse whilst others made their fortunes from the seedy Russian Mafia undeworld.

It's only fitting they all be dispossessed!

As for American, British and EU assets in Russia, it's onlt fitting they too suffer for being stupid enough to invest in a shit hole like Russia, ruled by a tyrant. Let's just call it the stupidity tax. Well deserved.

I mean what were they thinking? Why would anyone want to invest in Russia when you can invest in USA, Canada, Australia, Switzerland, UK or any of the Scandinavians.


Do you remember the Cypriot haircut? They stole money from depositors because Cyprus was apparently a laundromat for dirty Russian money. But this was nothing in comparison to what the accusers were doing. The rich Russians were investing in London and cleaning money through German banks to the tune of hundreds of billions. But now, they have decided to seize this dirty money.

Where have the proceeds of these crimes and plunder of the Russian people gone do you think? Back to the Russian people or in the pockets of the people that accepted the dirty money in the first place? :roll:

Where is the evidence that these assets are the proceeds of crime anyway? Do you see how "we" just believe anything the media tells us.....


What theft in cyprus? The banks were under capitalized due to the npl exposure in the market that was due to amateur banking. The haircut was a simple waterfall where the equity and debt instruments couldn’t cover the capitalization and deposits where next. Tip for the future when you’re offered 6% interest on a euro account and Frankfurt has the rate set at 1% then you’re being paid for risk.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:29 pm

My understanding, pre-dating this conflict, was that Putin’s relationship with his post-Soviet asset-stripping billionaires was based primarily upon 2 tenets.

As long as they stayed away from the political arena (that including any overt criticism of him) he would leave them to get on with their wealth-accumulating affairs.

Secondly, they would channel state money through their links with the West/Asia as and when required. The current asset freezing activity is motivated by the second. Whether you agree with that or not is a debatable matter.

The subject of Putin’s wealth is something we only get the occasional glimpse of. The principal reason for eliminating Litivenko was his revelations about Putin’s affairs.

Those who promote the idea that Putin walks to work with holes in his shoes are fucking idiots. Of which there’s no shortage.

Whether people believe all they’re told is a matter for individual judgement but the idea that the likes of RT Sputnik are a font of truth and justice whilst outfits such as the BBC are State mouthpieces is, IMHO. a load of bollocks. I would like to see what would happen if RT tried to run a “Partygate” type expose on Putin. You can just imagine but of course it does exactly as it’s told. No prizes for guessing who by.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Maximus » Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:31 pm

DT. wrote:
What theft in cyprus? The banks were under capitalized due to the npl exposure in the market that was due to amateur banking. The haircut was a simple waterfall where the equity and debt instruments couldn’t cover the capitalization and deposits where next. Tip for the future when you’re offered 6% interest on a euro account and Frankfurt has the rate set at 1% then you’re being paid for risk.


Exactly DT, exactly.

Apparently, Cyprus was laundering dirty Russian money and this was a reason given as an excuse for the haircut and the economic disaster.

They are accusing Cyprus of the same now, only 4 days ago, the Telepgraph published an article about why Cyprus is a Russian bank with dirty money posing as an EU state.

Can you explain this to me, why is Cyprus on the receiving end of western media propaganda?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:43 pm

How interesting. So if info is against Cyprus it must be propaganda, it cannot be true right?

There is no way on gods earth that Cyprus Economy could handle the kind of money the Russians brought into Cyprus.

It is called house of cards and will blow away from the slightest fart. Especially certain people here and the wind they generate every fuckin day.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Maximus » Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:46 pm

Lordo wrote:How interesting. So if info is against Cyprus it must be propaganda, it cannot be true right?

There is no way on gods earth that Cyprus Economy could handle the kind of money the Russians brought into Cyprus.

It is called house of cards and will blow away from the slightest fart. Especially certain people here and the wind they generate every fuckin day.


Show me that it is true?

Go and find the article, read it and show me that it is true.... :lol:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Sun Mar 06, 2022 1:07 pm

Maximus wrote:
Lordo wrote:How interesting. So if info is against Cyprus it must be propaganda, it cannot be true right?

There is no way on gods earth that Cyprus Economy could handle the kind of money the Russians brought into Cyprus.

It is called house of cards and will blow away from the slightest fart. Especially certain people here and the wind they generate every fuckin day.


Show me that it is true?

Go and find the article, read it and show me that it is true.... :lol:

Which bit do you not believe the amoun or the fact that Cyprus economy could not handle it?

You need an article to tell you that? What you need is a brain boy preferably with a few active brain cells in it.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Maximus » Sun Mar 06, 2022 1:07 pm

You have got saw dust for brains, :roll:

https://www.coe.int/en/web/moneyval/-/c ... mendations.

As a result, Cyprus is “compliant” with 16 of the forty FATF Recommendations, “largely compliant” with 20 Recommendations and “partially compliant” with four Recommendations (non-profit organisations, correspondent banking, new technologies, and powers of law enforcement and investigative authorities). Cyprus has no “non-compliant” ratings.


This was published on January 13th 2022, and Cyprus was the only country to accept an independent evaluation from external monetary "experts".

Why is western media targeting Cyprus as a Russian launderette now?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Sun Mar 06, 2022 1:47 pm

It seems that due to bad timing, Turkey has two of it’s giant military transport planes stuck in Ukraine when the war started and the airspace closed. Turkey claims the planes were used as a humanitarian purposes for Ukraine and also to bring Turks home from Ukraine. Really? Does anyone buy that BS? There were no humanitarian issues on the first day of invasion, so why were these two giant planes sent to Ukraine? Is it possible these were carrying UAV’s to Ukraine and before they can unload and leave, Russia closed Ukraine’s airspace and now Turkey is concern for it’s planes. They could become “casualties of war” if Turkey was trying to be “penny wise, pound foolish” to make business for Erdogan’s son in law!

NewsTurkeyDiplomacyMarch 05 2022 13:14:00

Turkish humanitarian aid planes stranded in Ukraine: Minister

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Turkish humanitarian aid planes stranded in Ukraine: Minister
Two A-400M Turkish aircraft which arrived in Ukraine the day the war began to deliver humanitarian aid and evacuate Turkish citizens are still waiting at the airport, said the Defense Minister Hulusi Akar on March 5.

"Two planes are currently waiting at Boryspil Airport due to the closure of the airspace after we got there. We continue our contacts with both Russia and Ukraine on this issue," Akar told.

Noting that efforts are continuing to bring the planes back to Turkey safely if is a cease-fire, Akar said: "Our aircrew are currently staying at our embassy. We will evacuate our planes at the first opportunity. We will also evacuate our citizens to Turkiye, if possible."

https://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turki ... ter-171994
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Maximus » Sun Mar 06, 2022 1:52 pm

Right Kiks, the chronological order of their story just doesn't stack up.
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