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[repulsewarrior]

News on news.

[repulsewarrior]

...true lies.

It would be funny if it wasn't so serious; you have to laugh, even the "Z motherfuckers" are pissed off.

[Pyrpolizer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl_OiOSIFCc

News on news.

Do you really expect to get the truth from the State media of Russia or from the Western MSM who are totally controlled by the establishment?? May I remind you that the day after the blown up of the Nord Stream 2, the Washington Post published an article saying "there is no doubt the Russians did it".
The next day it continued the same tune saying it was a "State sabotage" without saying which State did it. The only way to learn the truth is to follow a few independent media, with opposing views, and draw your own conclusions. One such example is the "Redacted Inc". See youtube video after this post.
This "Niki" guy you are following is also acceptable.

[Pyrpolizer]

How ridiculously the US government spends it's tax payer's money.
Includes the issue of 45b approved for Ukraine.

[repulsewarrior]

https://www.voanews.com/a/kissinger-calls-for-negotiated-peace-in-ukraine-kyiv-dismisses-proposal/6881679.html

...more on what Kissinger is saying; but i will not quote this man because he offends me.

Kissinger basically advises Ukraine to enter negotiations before it's too late.
Ukraine is at the risk of becoming a sea-locked worthless State after the Russians take Odessa.
And they WILL TAKE IT.

...fuck the Ukrainians, (and the Georgians), like the Cypriots were fucked before them, who cares: this Ignorance the same; "Russians", "Americans", and the "Chinese" will figure out their politics, eventually, and they will find their "Peace", he is saying. Kissinger is no American it seems; he is most certainly "American", demonstrating this commitment not to the Universal Principles which make America so great, but to American (dare i say "American") hegemony over the world.

...what "Russia" (since this is Putin's "special operation") gains is rubble at a high cost: crude successes, it is their shells that do the most damage (cruelly i'll add); they are not welcome with open arms mostly, only by "Russians".

It is clear, "Ukrainians" exist just like the "Russians" said; but far fewer than imagined compared to the Ukrainians they did not expect to resist, who unlike "them" hold to no such dogmas being more civil and more reasoned, who fight all the same to defend the Universal Principles on which our (read: yours and mine) basic Human Rights are founded.

...what is left therefore is for Russia to explode (too), and for the same reason, because Russians exist and there are also a lot of them, more i would dare to say than the "Russians" who live among them would like to think.

[Kikapu]

How ridiculously the US government spends it's tax payer's money.
Includes the issue of 45b approved for Ukraine.

There was this American woman politician (no idea who she was) on TV last week making justification for all the money and weapons the US is sending to Ukraine to fight Russia to go along with Zelensky’s visit to Washington that it s much cheaper to fight Russia this way than had the US fought Russia directly.

I did not know that the US had plans to go to war with Russia in the first place, let alone doing so the cheapest way possible.

Does this not then reveal that the plan since the 2014 Minsk agreements, that there was going to be war with Russia instigated by the collective West using Ukraine as their platform sooner or later?

Putin knew this to an extent no doubt and attacked first, which he stated in the past that, “if there was going to be fight, he will throw the first punch”, which he has.

The collective West’s only miscalculation about the indirect war with Russia via Ukraine it seems, that they did not calculate that Putin will use nuclear weapons against the collective West should mother Russia is threatened in anyway of being destroyed. Now the collective West is left with it’s pants down and cannot reverse their actions and has no choice but to supply Ukraine with more money and weapons in the hopes that Russia will agree to some kind of peace agreement that would be palatable to Ukraine and the collective West.

Well, no such luck since the West has gone on a limb to say they will support Ukraine to the bitter end, Zelensky is now using those statements to get all it can from the collective West by making demands on purpose for a peace agreements with Russia that can never be agreed by Putin. So, basically Zelensky has got the collective West by the balls and can squeeze them at will to almost what it wants.

This war is likely to continue for a long time at a huge financial economic expense to the collective West and the embarrassment that despite all their expensive and reportedly superior weapons, Russia is still in Ukraine after 10 months and not about to retreat, but instead has taken more than what was agreed in Minsk. In the meantime Ukraine is being destroyed which will cause the Ukrainian citizens to depart to neighboring countries causing headaches to the EU in particular.

I can hear the EU telling the USA.................

[Pyrpolizer]

How ridiculously the US government spends it's tax payer's money.
Includes the issue of 45b approved for Ukraine.

There was this American woman politician (no idea who she was) on TV last week making justification for all the money and weapons the US is sending to Ukraine to fight Russia to go along with Zelensky’s visit to Washington that it s much cheaper to fight Russia this way than had the US fought Russia directly.

I did not know that the US had plans to go to war with Russia in the first place, let alone doing so the cheapest way possible.

Does this not then reveal that the plan since the 2014 Minsk agreements, that there was going to be war with Russia instigated by the collective West using Ukraine as their platform sooner or later?

Putin knew this to an extent no doubt and attacked first, which he stated in the past that, “if there was going to be fight, he will throw the first punch”, which he has.

The collective West’s only miscalculation about the indirect war with Russia via Ukraine it seems, that they did not calculate that Putin will use nuclear weapons against the collective West should mother Russia is threatened in anyway of being destroyed. Now the collective West is left with it’s pants down and cannot reverse their actions and has no choice but to supply Ukraine with more money and weapons in the hopes that Russia will agree to some kind of peace agreement that would be palatable to Ukraine and the collective West.

Well, no such luck since the West has gone on a limb to say they will support Ukraine to the bitter end, Zelensky is now using those statements to get all it can from the collective West by making demands on purpose for a peace agreements with Russia that can never be agreed by Putin. So, basically Zelensky has got the collective West by the balls and can squeeze them at will to almost what it wants.

This war is likely to continue for a long time at a huge financial economic expense to the collective West and the embarrassment that despite all their expensive and reportedly superior weapons, Russia is still in Ukraine after 10 months and not about to retreat, but instead has taken more than what was agreed in Minsk. In the meantime Ukraine is being destroyed which will cause the Ukrainian citizens to depart to neighboring countries causing headaches to the EU in particular.

I can hear the EU telling the USA.................

I agree with everything you said Kikapu, but I have a different opinion on the issue of Putin using nukes. He said it clearly:"We won't be the ones to strike first. We won't be second either. Because the possibility of any missile hitting Russia is negligible".
It looks the Americans started having second thoughts about their plans for the fall of Putin. Presumably any destabilizing of the Russian Federation would skyrocket the risk of nuclear Armageddon, initiated by someone else other than Putin.

[Kikapu]

How ridiculously the US government spends it's tax payer's money.
Includes the issue of 45b approved for Ukraine.

There was this American woman politician (no idea who she was) on TV last week making justification for all the money and weapons the US is sending to Ukraine to fight Russia to go along with Zelensky’s visit to Washington that it s much cheaper to fight Russia this way than had the US fought Russia directly.

I did not know that the US had plans to go to war with Russia in the first place, let alone doing so the cheapest way possible.

Does this not then reveal that the plan since the 2014 Minsk agreements, that there was going to be war with Russia instigated by the collective West using Ukraine as their platform sooner or later?

Putin knew this to an extent no doubt and attacked first, which he stated in the past that, “if there was going to be fight, he will throw the first punch”, which he has.

The collective West’s only miscalculation about the indirect war with Russia via Ukraine it seems, that they did not calculate that Putin will use nuclear weapons against the collective West should mother Russia is threatened in anyway of being destroyed. Now the collective West is left with it’s pants down and cannot reverse their actions and has no choice but to supply Ukraine with more money and weapons in the hopes that Russia will agree to some kind of peace agreement that would be palatable to Ukraine and the collective West.

Well, no such luck since the West has gone on a limb to say they will support Ukraine to the bitter end, Zelensky is now using those statements to get all it can from the collective West by making demands on purpose for a peace agreements with Russia that can never be agreed by Putin. So, basically Zelensky has got the collective West by the balls and can squeeze them at will to almost what it wants.

This war is likely to continue for a long time at a huge financial economic expense to the collective West and the embarrassment that despite all their expensive and reportedly superior weapons, Russia is still in Ukraine after 10 months and not about to retreat, but instead has taken more than what was agreed in Minsk. In the meantime Ukraine is being destroyed which will cause the Ukrainian citizens to depart to neighboring countries causing headaches to the EU in particular.

I can hear the EU telling the USA.................

I agree with everything you said Kikapu, but I have a different opinion on the issue of Putin using nukes. He said it clearly:"We won't be the ones to strike first. We won't be second either. Because the possibility of any missile hitting Russia is negligible".
It looks the Americans started having second thoughts about their plans for the fall of Putin. Presumably any destabilizing of the Russian Federation would skyrocket the risk of nuclear Armageddon, initiated by someone else other than Putin.

We are saying the same thing Pyro, just in different context. As you have said many times that military decisions in Russia are not made by Putin, but others. Putin is just the spokesperson. No collective West is going to come and break up the Russian Federation just like they did with Yugoslavia without the collective West getting nuked regardless whether Russia is the 1st, the 2nd or the 10th striker of the nukes. The collective West can not afford to be nuked at all, not even once anywhere in the West. Can you see any country in the West is willing to be nuked by Russia so to take one for the collective West’s team? Well, that was a rhetorical question!

[Kikapu]

Interesting video with supstance!

[Pyrpolizer]

Great Interview with professor Sachs.
Other than his historical basis, what I kept thinking, is how Nato can claim to be an defensive organization when the US is clearly offensive all over the globe.