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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Dec 08, 2022 11:32 pm

Paphitis wrote:
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Pyrpolizer wrote:Bakhmout is a killing ground for grinding up the Ukrainian forces, American General says at CNN


CNN is Western MSM - yes? Which those who support Russia regularly tell us is fodder for the gullible/misinformed - etc. Isn't that a case of trying to have your cake and eat it? If I posted a CNN, pro Ukrainian article you'd scoff at it.

How many times have we heard that this and that fights are "killing grounds", grinding up Ukrainian forces? Kiev, Karkiv, Kherson?


Just like you said. Marked in Red. They are paving the way, to back up their and your masters decision to abandon Ukraine.


DING DONG bitch!

Ukraine will never be abandoned. The world is united and will see this through and give Ukraine full backing.

The Germans are right on the bandwagon as well after a very slow start because their delusions disintegrated just 3 months ago when they realized Ruzzia will not stop and will go after Moldova, georgia, Poland, The Baltics and Finland next.

We have come too far and virtually destroyed Ruzzia's military capability so no point stopping till the job is fully done.

Getmany is the 3rd biggest supporter of Ukraine and is now sending arms worth billions with new arms packages just being announced as we speak.


Remind me again how many billions Germany is sending and how many weapons? As far as I know they are just sending 2 air defense systems to Poland which Poland 'requests" to be deployed in Ukraine. There is a reason for that: Poland seeks excuses to set foot in Ukraine as a "peacekeeper" having already deployed more than 5000 troops wearing Ukrainian uniforms.
Also I learned the EU just approved 300m LOAN to the already bankrupt and destined to remain bankrupt for the next 2 generations Ukrainian state.
Enjoy your fantasies. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Happy to oblige.

https://www.bundesregierung.de/breg-en/ ... ne-2054992


That has already been supplied. And what happened to it? Half sold in the black market and the other half destroyed within a month. Who cries all day "give us more, we need more"? Certainly not the Russians. Get it in your thick head: The Ukrainians consumption rate far exceeds the western replenishment ability. Sooner or later they will run out of everything. And then TOTAL UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER WOULD FOLLOW :mrgreen:


That is what the Ruzzians do.

But all western equipment is being put to good use in the Ukrainian Armed Forces including about 130 Bushmasters from Australia, which were actually inspected by Australia's PM on an official visit to Ukraine to meet Zalensky. The Australian PM also visited the front line and visited Ukrainian Troops there under an Australian Military Escort. So briefly, there were Australian Military units very close to the fighting in Ukraine for the PM's security and there they saw many of Australia's supplied Bushmasters and Howitzers.

Every piece of equipment is tracked and monitored by the Pentagon. And the Merikans can even track all their smart weapons like HIMARS as well, and know instantly where they are located and whther they are damaged or destroyed. And guess what bitches! They are all still there. Not 1 has been destroyed because Ruzzian military are such low imbecilic fools who can't win a war against Ukraine and look more like a tin pot than anything else. :lol:


They were not tracking anything.
That's the reason these articles date back :

Security source claims gangs are entering Ukraine and paying cash for weapons
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... arket.html

What happens to weapons sent to Ukraine? The US doesn’t really know
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/19/poli ... index.html

Ukraine sells weapons on black market
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/pol ... ed-ability

Of course as always they accused Russia for spreading disinformation. They even accuse it now when they finally decided to send inspection teams in Ukraine.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:20 pm



...Bakhmut



...and other news.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Dec 10, 2022 1:55 am

...on oil and price caps



...very interesting.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:23 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Londonrake wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:Bakhmout is a killing ground for grinding up the Ukrainian forces, American General says at CNN


CNN is Western MSM - yes? Which those who support Russia regularly tell us is fodder for the gullible/misinformed - etc. Isn't that a case of trying to have your cake and eat it? If I posted a CNN, pro Ukrainian article you'd scoff at it.

How many times have we heard that this and that fights are "killing grounds", grinding up Ukrainian forces? Kiev, Karkiv, Kherson?


Just like you said. Marked in Red. They are paving the way, to back up their and your masters decision to abandon Ukraine.


DING DONG bitch!

Ukraine will never be abandoned. The world is united and will see this through and give Ukraine full backing.

The Germans are right on the bandwagon as well after a very slow start because their delusions disintegrated just 3 months ago when they realized Ruzzia will not stop and will go after Moldova, georgia, Poland, The Baltics and Finland next.

We have come too far and virtually destroyed Ruzzia's military capability so no point stopping till the job is fully done.

Getmany is the 3rd biggest supporter of Ukraine and is now sending arms worth billions with new arms packages just being announced as we speak.


Remind me again how many billions Germany is sending and how many weapons? As far as I know they are just sending 2 air defense systems to Poland which Poland 'requests" to be deployed in Ukraine. There is a reason for that: Poland seeks excuses to set foot in Ukraine as a "peacekeeper" having already deployed more than 5000 troops wearing Ukrainian uniforms.
Also I learned the EU just approved 300m LOAN to the already bankrupt and destined to remain bankrupt for the next 2 generations Ukrainian state.
Enjoy your fantasies. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Happy to oblige.

https://www.bundesregierung.de/breg-en/ ... ne-2054992


That has already been supplied. And what happened to it? Half sold in the black market and the other half destroyed within a month. Who cries all day "give us more, we need more"? Certainly not the Russians. Get it in your thick head: The Ukrainians consumption rate far exceeds the western replenishment ability. Sooner or later they will run out of everything. And then TOTAL UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER WOULD FOLLOW :mrgreen:


That is what the Ruzzians do.

But all western equipment is being put to good use in the Ukrainian Armed Forces including about 130 Bushmasters from Australia, which were actually inspected by Australia's PM on an official visit to Ukraine to meet Zalensky. The Australian PM also visited the front line and visited Ukrainian Troops there under an Australian Military Escort. So briefly, there were Australian Military units very close to the fighting in Ukraine for the PM's security and there they saw many of Australia's supplied Bushmasters and Howitzers.

Every piece of equipment is tracked and monitored by the Pentagon. And the Merikans can even track all their smart weapons like HIMARS as well, and know instantly where they are located and whther they are damaged or destroyed. And guess what bitches! They are all still there. Not 1 has been destroyed because Ruzzian military are such low imbecilic fools who can't win a war against Ukraine and look more like a tin pot than anything else. :lol:


They were not tracking anything.
That's the reason these articles date back :

Security source claims gangs are entering Ukraine and paying cash for weapons
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... arket.html

What happens to weapons sent to Ukraine? The US doesn’t really know
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/19/poli ... index.html

Ukraine sells weapons on black market
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/pol ... ed-ability

Of course as always they accused Russia for spreading disinformation. They even accuse it now when they finally decided to send inspection teams in Ukraine.


DING DONG Bitches!

Paphitis is in da house! :lol:

Any news from the front lines bitches? How is the Bahmut Offensive going? Has Bashmut fallen yet? No? Oh well bitches! You do know the Ukrainians control the Chicken Tender don't you? Which means they have control over the town and the Ruzzians can't take it. Better luck next time bitches. :lol:

Now, back to the imbecile claiming Ukrainians are selling their arms. That is from the pluralistic western right wing media, who are against western support for Ukraine because they are greedy bastards and do not want their tax money used to support a nation in need.

There was only one incident, and the Ukrainian secret service arrested 3 corrupt Ukrainian Officers and they are now behind bars for life and high treason.

All western arms are accounted for and fucking the Ruzzians right up which is great to see.

AND BITCHES! The Germans are selling Leopard Main Battle Tanks to Ukraine. Hip hip Hooray! Hip Hip Hooray!

AND YEEEEEEEAAAAH Haaaaaaaaaaah bitches! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:55 am



...nine years, a history of conflict; Donetsk.

Bombs fall; sadly it is not one sided: to judge is not easy at all.

(meanwhile there is light and running water)
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:12 am

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...nine years, a history of conflict; Donetsk.

Bombs fall; sadly it is not one sided: to judge is not easy at all.

(meanwhile there is light and running water)


It is actually one sided. One side is defending their sovereignty and the other side has illegally invaded.

Ukraine has no choice but to soften targets inside occupied areas before their advance to liberate their lands. It’s just the way it is.

Therefore, targets inside the occupied are vulnerable and as long as the Ukrainians make every effort to avoid civilian casualties, which is obviously what they are doing, then they are in the clear. But civilians will be killed. Ukraine has been pro active and sent messages and even dropped leaflets from drones to advise that civilians need to evacuate as the areas in question will be targeted by their artillery which I might add are also extremely precise and accurate.

Let’s just say one day there is a war in Cyprus. The CNG will have to hit targets in Famagusta, Ercan, and Kyrenia. Key infrastructure will need to be knocked out like ports, airports, logistics, highways, administrative buildings, bases and so on. There will be civilians there and some will be killed. But you can’t exactly blame the RoC as it has dejure sovereignty and its territorial integrity has been violated.

If the RoCs and Ukraine’s territorial integrity were not violated to begin with by Turkey and Russia, Ukraine would not need to target areas in places like Donetsk and Cyprus would not need to target places in the occupied if there is a future war.

These are the realities of war I’m afraid.

Let’s use another example. Let’s say Chyna invaded Australia. The Australian and joint US defence doctrine for the Defence of Australia is to retreat to a pre determined line - it’s referred to as The Brisbane Line. There are 45000 US soldiers in Australia.

Then, the blitzkrieg starts on all occupied cities like Darwin and Townsville and Cairns too. The places would be levelled to the ground in days. Civilians (mostly Australian) will be killed if they are stupid enough to not evacuate. It’s the way it is. There will be nothing left. Then, the supply lines will be cut on all sea approaches with submarines and an entire US Battlegroup. Tactical Nuclear weapons will in all likelihood be used. Then and only then will any offensive begin after the Chinese have no resupply. Sound familiar?

It’s all fantasy land that Chyna would be dumb enough to invade in the first place but these plans are already in place if something outrageous like this happens one day in the future.

Victim blaming of a defending country just because it has killed some civilians will fall on deaf ears. If a woman is being raped and she manages to kick the rapist in the balls and his dick falls off and dies from blood loss, just doesn’t make sense if you have a sense of morality and justice. The woman is clearly being raped and has the right to defend herself, her body and if she somehow manages to do this, it can only be viewed as legitimate self defence.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sun Dec 11, 2022 1:36 am

You see, some of you think that in war there must be some kind of chivalry. To a certain extent, among western nations, there is. Not so with Russia, and Chyna. They will adopt WW2 carpet bombing tactics. This is what Russia is doing in Ukraine. Hence the numerous war crimes which Russia will be held accountable for as it will be classified as a terrorist state internationally and won’t be able to trade. Therefore, over time, their economy will collapse. Pootin and his henchmen will face international justice.

Ukraine however, will win this war. It is winning now. It will go on and join the EU and NATO and will remain a respected international player that will be recognised for defeating a supposed superpower.

No one is going to say to Ukraine why it shelled Donetsk. We all know why they are doing it. Their objective is to liberate it from illegal occupation.

And in this war, civilians will be killed. About 150,000 Ukrainian civilians have already been killed by Russian bombings. And another few million have been displaced. All this from an illegal invasion of their territory.

No one will point any fingers on Ukraine unless it’s a legitimate war crime committed by them - such as executing POWs or deliberately targeting apartment blocks like Russia has. If Ukraine sends a salvo of HIMARS rockets for instance against a vital supply birch like the Kerch Bridge and 10 civilian cars are wiped out instantly, it will not be considered a crime because this bridge is a legitimate military target. It’s like let’s say sone civilians were located near a vital Russian logistics post or base whilst that was under attack. Well they will likely die. But it doesn’t mean that is a war crime.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sun Dec 11, 2022 2:31 am

It looks like Ukraine has been very active hitting targets in the occupied zones. And of course the Ruzzians are saying civilians were targetting.

The reality however is that a hotel was targetted full of Ruzzian soldiers, killing many of them. Even if there were civilians in the same hotel, the building will be targetted. That's what the Ukrainians need to do. Hoit spots with high concentrations of Ruzzian soldiers to kill as many as possible.

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Dec 11, 2022 11:07 pm

''Russia drones smash power network in Odesa''

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ru ... 022-12-10/

...for the record.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:43 pm

Where have all the bitches gone? :?

DING DONG has no effect when there is no one in da house! :shock:

We need to conduct welfare checks on Get Real. I hope he hasn't inflicetd self harm. :?

DT, can you go to his house to see of the old geezer is alright?

I promise I won't mention the war...

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