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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sun Mar 06, 2022 4:14 am

Maximus wrote:Putin is no doubt public enemy number one in many peoples opinion but zelensky is making a lot of mistakes.

The US want to flood Ukraine with weapons to fight Russia because they are on the decline and they are trying to preserve their global hegemony. They don't want to get involved directly though.

This is another one of their proxy wars and the Ukrainians are deluding themselves that they are fighting for their freedom. Russia doesn't want to be there but because they are, Ukrainians are forced to defend themselves.


That’s if his own doing.

Yes it’s our duty to supply Ukraine so that they may prevail defending their country.

There is actually a distinct good vs bad here. The evil badness is the invader of a sovereign country. The innocent victims are the Ukraine people.

They most certainly are fighting for their country and freedom. That is obvious. Ukraine has been invaded.

May God strengthen their arms so that they prevail for the glory of Ukraine and it’s independence.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sun Mar 06, 2022 4:17 am

Maximus wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Just go kill yourself Paphitis... I'm staring to suspect you're on drugs. Such a shame and you have little kids.. :(

NTROBI SOU!


I don't know what you are seeing, but it looks like Russia has failed dismally! As I predicted.

Russia military piss operation has been botched to say the least. Russians are losing badly.



They are not losing on the battle field paphitis.

Their economy is in better shape than Ukraine’s too.

they are losing the information and global public opinion war only.


They most certainly are being defeated.

Ukraine still stands and will stand forever as they have something to fight for here.

Russia’s military piss operation has been a dismal failure thus far with the Ukrainian military fighting the Russians on their terms and on their lands.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Maximus » Sun Mar 06, 2022 4:28 am

Your idea of Ukraine winning is purely by default, because you think Russias operation is a failure.

Ukraine can only win when they beat Russia back, and kick them out of Ukraine.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sun Mar 06, 2022 4:31 am

Maximus wrote:Your idea of Ukraine winning is purely by default, because you think Russias operation is a failure.

Ukraine can only win when they beat Russia back, out of Ukraine.


It’s actually been a dismal failure so far in regards to their operations. They have thousands of tanks bogged down and stuck, unable to move or go anywhere.

Thousands of their troops have already surrendered and laid down their weapons.

They have massive casualties.

As soon as they enter any Ukrainian city they come under a barrage of fire from the defenders.

It’s not looking good for Russia.

But yes what you say is true. When a country falls under occupation and the population have a resolve to fight, then there is no defeat. Just eventual defeat of the invader who will be forced to withdraw in the longer run.

This is the undoing of many invaders. History holds stern lessons, and it doesn’t matter if the invader is a “superpower” or not. Superpowers don’t send in their armies without the proper logistics. Wars are won on logistics and supply lines. Without logistics you are screwed.

An Army marches on its stomach.

When there is no logistical capacity to keep their columns adequately fuelled, then the war is already lost.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sun Mar 06, 2022 4:49 am

What’s good for the goose is good for the gander…

Russia, having witnessed the criminal Wests’ systematic campaign of personal property theft and harassment against Russian-born individuals living in the US and the EU, has now embarked on its own version of the same prompting this warning from the US State Department…

https://ru.usembassy.gov/russia-level-4-do-not-travel/

But it’s too late and too hard to escape because all the previous shortsighted travel and money-accessing sanctions imposed by the West are now hurting citizens scrambling for cover from both sides.

There are now some arrests of US, Brit and EU citizens inside of Russia and the shit is about to hit the fan!

Meanwhile a hideous Jewish cross-dressing freak hiding inside a Polish bunker (the mouthpiece of the foolish West?) is still shouting MORE! MORE! MORE! …as his thirst for worldwide calamity cannot be easily quenched!

Maybe they should shave that freak’s head where I wouldn’t be surprised they find a “666” on the scalp!
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sun Mar 06, 2022 4:50 am

Get Real! wrote:What’s good for the goose is good for the gander…

Russia, having witnessed the criminal Wests’ systematic campaign of personal property theft and harassment against Russian-born individuals living in the US and the EU, has now embarked on its own version of the same prompting this warning from the US State Department…

https://ru.usembassy.gov/russia-level-4-do-not-travel/

But it’s too late and too hard to escape because all the previous shortsighted travel and money-accessing sanctions imposed by the West are now hurting citizens scrambling for cover from both sides.

There are now some arrests of US, Brit and EU citizens inside of Russia and the shit is about to hit the fan!

Meanwhile a jewish cross-dressing freak hiding inside a Polish bunker (the mouthpiece of the foolish West?) is still shouting MORE! MORE! MORE! …as his thirst for worldwide calamity cannot be easily quenched!


the west is doing the right thing and fighting Russia economically.

As for the property "theft". There are laws in the west which stipulate that the proceeds of crime can be confiscated by the state. Most of these Oligarchs are Russian mafia and political scoundrels and criminals much like Pootin with his 200 billion personal fortune. These proceeds were plundered from the Russian people during the Soviet collapse whilst others made their fortunes from the seedy Russian Mafia undeworld.

It's only fitting they all be dispossessed!

As for American, British and EU assets in Russia, it's onlt fitting they too suffer for being stupid enough to invest in a shit hole like Russia, ruled by a tyrant. Let's just call it the stupidity tax. Well deserved.

I mean what were they thinking? Why would anyone want to invest in Russia when you can invest in USA, Canada, Australia, Switzerland, UK or any of the Scandinavians.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Mar 06, 2022 6:44 am

''JERUSALEM, March 5 (Reuters) - Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett met Russian President Vladimir Putin in the Kremlin on Saturday to discuss the war in Ukraine and later spoke by phone with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy, Bennett's spokesperson said.

Bennett is coordinating his efforts in the crisis with the United States, France and Germany, an Israeli official said.

After his meeting with Putin, Bennett headed to Berlin for talks with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, his spokesperson said.''

...and Herzog visiting Turkey.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sun Mar 06, 2022 7:10 am

One of the members of the Ukrainian negotiating group was shot dead by the SBU…

“It is possible that in Kyiv they are simply eliminating those who advocate a diplomatic solution to the problem and the fulfillment of the requirements presented by the Russian side. This underlines that no positive steps should be expected from the negotiation process.”


https://avia-pro.net/news/sbu-zastrelil ... -gosizmene

Under the circumstances Russia can strip the Ukraine of statehood outright, and/or crank up the operation’s lethality.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sun Mar 06, 2022 11:05 am

A candid post by an American citizen...

As an American, I am surprised how gullible everyone is walking around. Just like little children.

Everyone I talk to says Putin is a murderer and a killer, a true monster, but none of them can give you any examples to back it up. CNN says so every 30 seconds obviously.

We murdered thousands of people for 20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan, murdered people in Syria, murdered Ghadaffi and destroyed Libya, causing the civil war there that lasted years (Hillary thought it hilarious), and of course, Bill Clinton bombed and murdered 100,000 Orthodox Christian Serbs.

None of these people or countries threatened us as the Ukraine and NATO have threatened Russia since 2014.

But Putin a a monster and a murder and a killer. Don't you ever forget it!
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Sun Mar 06, 2022 11:50 am

The world is begining to realise finally that the UN is not functioning. Welcome to our world.

On another note we were sold the idea of Nuclear weapons claiming it would stop wars. Well it seems rather than stop wars, it seems to paralyse those who have them from confronting another nuclear power even when they are invading another country.

This took place for the last 40 odd years with one side or the other attacking a country without any fear of any kind. It was 99.999% America doing the attacking and murdering millions but who is counting.

What a wonderful world we live in.
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