Paphitis wrote:I thought you were talking about the first video. That is the video that showed the incident when the Ukrainians opened fire on them.
There were actually 3 videos idiot. Yours was the second one. The third one was from a Ukrainian Drone surveying the area for a damage analysis that intelligence do. The Ukrainians released that video as well - so clearly they do not feel they have much to hide over the incident.
So in other words, Ukraine has been incredibly transparent about this incident.
And no, your second video does not depict an execution.
All videos show executions in cold blood. These are war crimes. There have been many videos in the past showing Ukrainian Nazis shooting POWs in the legs. You supported ALL of them even boasted that's what the "brave Australian nothings" do. Do we need more evidence that you are a fascist supporter of Nazi ideology?
Wish you good luck in clearing whatever part will be left of Ukraine from all that scam. Maybe you should offer them a free ticket to Australia.
Pyrpolizer wrote:Speaking of war crimes have you seen the latest video the stupid Ukrainian Nazis uploaded recently? It shows ~ 10 Russian soldiers from the moment they surrendered, then set lying face down on on the ground, and then executed in cold blood. It went viral, and caused huge turmoil in Russia, and Russian affiliated sites. As usual there was nothing in the Trashy Western media. If anyone is interested I will find the relevant link in telegram.
They would have been so fucked up, if alive, and most were already dead, a soldier just went around shooting a Coup De Grace to the back of the head to a mortally wounded soldier.
That is the only humane thing to do at that point.
And they filmed this as well. Which just isn't done when you commit a war crime let alone post the video on the world wide web.
Criminals always leave evidence behind unintended, thinking it will never be discovered. False!
In Ukraine, some of these criminal evidence are on the soldier’s personal smart phones which they think it will never become public until the soldier with these criminal evidence on their personal phones are discovered by others when they themselves are either captured of killed in action. Theses criminal footages are not made by a production crew so stop justifying these criminal acts by Ukraine with bullshit excuses , Paphitis.
Really.
So these war criminals would film themselves in the act of committing war crimes, and be charged for it. Dream on!
This is what happened. The Ukrainians atarted filming the capture of surrendering Ruzzians, which is what they do so often to serve their information and propaganda war. All well and good so far. this indicates good intentions.
But then something happened and got out of hand, and the machine gunner was forced to open fire and virtually killed all or most of them in a split second.
Then they made a second video showing the Coup De Grace to each one of them.
That's it.
Now, it really doesn't matter what you say, because Ukraine will report the incident to the Hague and UN and it will be investigated and their soldiers will be interviewed. Nothing else will come from it.
But what will come is the eventual accountability for all of Ruzzia's crimes against humanity. Yes it is they who invaded a sovereign country and it is they who bomb residential building and civilian infrastructure.
There is one clear war criminal nation here and it isn't Ukraine.
Well, you don’t see the faces of those committing these crimes, so why would they suspect they will get caught if they were to film these criminal acts, at least not until these films are discovered on the criminals phones when they are caught or killed in action. No doubt some may show it to their fellow soldiers and have a good laughter whilst drinking beer. They cannot be “an officer and a gentlemen” after all, but just a gang of criminals who would commit such crimes.
Kikapu wrote:Well, you don’t see the faces of those committing these crimes, so why would they suspect they will get caught if they were to film these criminal acts, at least not until these films are discovered on the criminals phones when they are caught or killed in action. No doubt some may show it to their fellow soldiers and have a good laughter whilst drinking beer. They cannot be “an officer and a gentlemen” after all, but just a gang of criminals who would commit such crimes.
It's clearly a shocking video clip, tempered though for me by a few things.
Firstly, it poses questions which can't really be answered satisfactorily, rather than being a cut 'n' dried incident.
Secondly, I would ask, what if the shoe were on the other foot? If Paphitis presented it as Russian soldiers shooting Ukrainian prisoners, what would your response be? That doesn't take much imagination. You would laugh it out of court.
There's ample evidence, by independent agencies, of Russian war crimes and atrocities having been committed since this conflict began. Just a reminder that it's one they precipitated. You dismiss them out of hand though, as being either staged by the Ukraine or crude propaganda. You're simply not interested. In the light of this offering that's hypocritical.
Putin's always needed justifications for what he's brought upon the world - increasingly so since it all started heading south militarily - in order to bolster domestic public and critical support. Thus, we get the repeated "Nazi" line which for obvious reasons is very evocative to the Russian people. Then absurdities like the secret bio weapon establishments being uncovered. Not to mention how Ukraine was planning to invade Russia. All amply supported with "evidence" from an industrial scale State propaganda machine.
You really are a very excitable person. Whatever other member's opinions of Paphitis - a "Nazi collaborator" FFS?
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Kikapu wrote:Even Paphitis’ hero at Fox News Tucker Carlson has had enough with Paphitis’ other hero, Zelensky!
Zelensky is a puppet. He is DEMANDING what he was promised by the Americans, in the arrogant way every cocaine addict DEMANDS things. The Ukrainian refugees DEMAND what they were promised from European Countries everywhere they go, to the point they piss the hell out of the locals. This is the mentality they got when they used to get everything free from the Soviets, and thereafter from the Russians having to provide them free gas and free nuclear fuel on exchange of their pipelines passing through Ukraine.
The secret talks between the head of the American and the Russia intelligence in Ankara Turkey marked the end of the American support and we will gradually see this spreading in Western media. European top officials already started making public statements against their American 'friends" who force them take disastrous decisions against their own economies. They also accused US's recent schemes as a providing direct incentives to European (and especially German) industries to relocate in America, accusing the Americans of trying to steal their manufacturing base.
In the end Ukraine and Zelensky will simply be dumped, owing billions to all those who lend them including the EU and IMF. Ukraine is already a bankrupt state, it will take it whole generations to surface. I posted a link to a video discussion earlier, https://youtu.be/u-KxE-PDKE8 which among other things contains thoughts about the reconstruction of Ukraine. It's clear for me that nobody watched that part which makes me wonder what's the point of sharing information to a forum where nobody wants to learn anything.... Well the Russians themselves actually have huge worries of the economic cost for the regions they plan to incorporate. Imagine what will happen to the rest of Ukraine. The cost is estimated to trillions...
Russia was right all along. There's no place for the Americans in Europe. Nato is useless, the Europeans need a new security framework that will ensure both their own security as well as the security of Russia. The sooner the Europeans realize that the better or else they will lose Russia for ever and end up to just degrading average economies close to what Portugal, Bulgaria, Greece etc are today.
Pyrpolizer wrote: In the end Ukraine and Zelensky will simply be dumped, owing billions to all those who lend them including the EU and IMF. Ukraine is already a bankrupt state, it will take it whole generations to surface. I posted a link to a video discussion earlier, https://youtu.be/u-KxE-PDKE8 which among other things contains thoughts about the reconstruction of Ukraine. It's clear for me that nobody watched that part which makes me wonder what's the point of sharing information to a forum where nobody wants to learn anything.....
Pyro, I have watched the above video in it’s entirety, so thank you for posting it.
Pyrpolizer wrote: In the end Ukraine and Zelensky will simply be dumped, owing billions to all those who lend them including the EU and IMF. Ukraine is already a bankrupt state, it will take it whole generations to surface. I posted a link to a video discussion earlier, https://youtu.be/u-KxE-PDKE8 which among other things contains thoughts about the reconstruction of Ukraine. It's clear for me that nobody watched that part which makes me wonder what's the point of sharing information to a forum where nobody wants to learn anything.....
Pyro, I have watched the above video in it’s entirety, so thank you for posting it.
However, this situation has benefitted the western corporations very well at the expense of everybody else in the world. So, it is not just the Ukrainians that are paying the price I am afraid. We now have people here who will end up paying over 5000 pounds for energy after April. They are lucky we will be heading towards summer, but winter soon comes along, and the way energy price is calculated is not even mentioned in the mainstream media.
Pyrpolizer wrote:It's clear for me that nobody watched that part which makes me wonder what's the point of sharing information to a forum where nobody wants to learn anything....
The hypocritical son of a total ANAL-WHORE is unhappy that nobody appreciates his “sharing” of videos and info!
Hang in there for 2-3 weeks when I’ll have more time so as to express my appreciation to you!
