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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:58 pm

DING DONG BITCHES! :lol:

Red-eyed Paphitis is in da house. Still trying to get my body clock back into real world reality bitches, and keep warm.

Now, how is the war going? Any developments? Has everyone had a good and joyous Kherson Liberation Day? The citizens of Kherson are so happy bitches, welcoming the Ukrainians. We should all be very happy for them.

Now bitches, with the wheels now falling off the Ruzzian band wagon, and Ruzzia well and trully losing this war and Ukraine dictating all the terms, expect the following predictions. You will hear it here first.

Crimea, will be liberated next after the Ukrainians cut off Melitopol. It will be liberated before DONBAS.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sat Nov 19, 2022 12:03 am

Kikapu wrote:
Londonrake wrote:I've always thought/said I believed Russia would win this war. I have to rethink that though after recent events. Although I've lacked Paphitis's faith and enthusiasm, post Kiev, Kharkiv and Kherson I'm starting to bend to his view.

After 9 months fighting, and all the destruction and loss incurred, clearly the war's been a total disaster for everybody and not the rapid, virtually painless walkover (like Crimea 2014) originally conceived. I wonder what would happen if we were transported back to Feb 23rd. In the light of events would Putin actually stick to his, several times expressed, statement that Russia had no intention of invading Ukraine? It was all malicious western propaganda?

If Russia were to win the war tomorrow and, as per the original expectation, take the whole of Ukraine, what sort of "victory" would it constitute? They'd find themselves overlords of 40 million who'd learned to hate the Russian's guts. It would surely be an unending nightmare of violent insurrection? Requiring a vast number of occupiers to even try to keep a lid on it?


A win for Russia means implementing the 2014 Minsk agreements regardless the cost, therefore, looking at the Ukraine map to parts which Russia occupies, not only Russia has implemented the 2014 Minsk agreements, but has exceeded it, not to the likings of Zelensky. Zelensky has made it clear that the war is not over until ALL occupied territories are returned, including Crimea.

Putin had the war plan correct against Ukraine and he would have achieved it very quickly whatever they may have been, but he got blindsided by not knowing that the collective West was going to join the war on Ukraine’s side which has been the plan since 2014 Minsk agreements, which stands the reason why Ukraine never ratified it the 8 years since. Had Putin plan to have a war with the collective West, no doubt he would have planned it differently.

Paphitis is not correct that Ukraine has/will win this war because of Russians pulling out off Kiev, Kharkiv and Kherson. Russia is solidifying the regions it is holding using the Dnipro River as a good natural defensive line where it can. This will allow Russia to shell the Ukrainian forces with the minimum requirement of it’s own forces. Should the Dam on the river is blown up, the war in the Kherson region will be over for a while, both for Russia and Ukraine.

Bottom line is though, that Ukraine with full backing of NATO has not been able to take the occupied areas by Russia, especially since Russia was not intending such a fight at the start in February 24th and was never prepared for it. Slowly but surely the collective West is getting tired of supplying weapons and money to Ukraine at the cost of having their economies damaged. I would not be surprised if the collective West has already made arrangements for Russia to pull out of Kherson so to give a small “victory” to Zelensky and at the same time force Zelensky to reach an agreement with Russia at the current battle lines. It might sound far fetched, but then again, wars makes strange bedfellows, no?


Well, there seems to be many delusions on the forum.

Ruzzia not only has losing the war on the ground, but they have completely lost geo strategically. You wouldn't want to be in Ruzzia's position. It is now the most sanctioned country in the world and today, the EU just froze $68 billion in assets on top of the $330 Billion frozen by Merika.

Canada, Australia, Japan and South Korea look to do the same.

This on top of the fact that Ruzzia conventional military capabilities have virtually been wiped out, with Ruzzia now lacking conventional munitions, guns, Tanks, APCs, and Cruise Missiles.

Ruzzia also just dodged a bullet because NATO could have invoked Article 4 and potentially Article 5. Lucky escape there. Ruzzia was on the red phone and said they didn't mean it and so the Merikans decided to blame Ukraine just to avoid Nuclear War. But they won't allow Ukrainian inspectors to the site, because the Merikans want to cover up for the Ruzzians.

GR nearly got his wish. :lol:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Sat Nov 19, 2022 2:23 am

Kikapu wrote:
Bottom line is though, that Ukraine with full backing of NATO has not been able to take the occupied areas by Russia, especially since Russia was not intending such a fight at the start in February 24th and was never prepared for it. Slowly but surely the collective West is getting tired of supplying weapons and money to Ukraine at the cost of having their economies damaged. I would not be surprised if the collective West has already made arrangements for Russia to pull out of Kherson so to give a small “victory” to Zelensky and at the same time force Zelensky to reach an agreement with Russia at the current battle lines. It might sound far fetched, but then again, wars makes strange bedfellows, no?

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Well, well, well, what do you know?

Looks like the US is getting ready to pressure Zelensky to accept a negotiated settlement with Russia.

The New Voice of Ukraine
If Russia does not withdraw from Ukraine, war will have to end in negotiations, White House says

Fri, November 18, 2022, 10:27 PM
John Kirby

However, Kirby underscored that the United States will rely on Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to determine when and how the talks with Moscow could be conducted.

“This war could end today if Mr. Putin did the right thing,” Kirby said.

“Obviously, he has shown no proclivity to pull his troops out, so we also all agree that a diplomatic negotiated settlement is the next best thing to Putin just pulling his troops out.”

On Nov. 10, The New York Times reported that Chairman of U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley said that Ukraine has “achieved roughly as much as they could expect before winter sets in,” suggesting Kyiv should now seek talks with Moscow “to lock in their gains at the negotiating table.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-does- ... 00705.html
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Nov 19, 2022 3:37 am



...many differing/different views.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sat Nov 19, 2022 3:42 am

End of year synopsis…

What I’ve learned from the events of the past year is that Russia has proven to be the world’s ONLY true superpower, capable of holding out against the biggest and most powerful alliance known to mankind which includes the EU, NATO, the US, Britain, Israel, Ukraine, Japan and many others including ex-Soviet states.

This anti-Russia hyper-challenge has been truly unprecedented, and a testament to Russia’s phenomenal firepower, unfathomable stockpiles of arms and ammunition, impressive multi-faceted warfare capabilities, breathtaking tenacity of its ground forces, and exceptional leadership.

To say that I’m impressed by Russia is an understatement, and I cannot fathom any other nation being capable of admirably confronting all that’s been thrown at them; which includes nonstop economic, political, and military attack for at least a year.

Those who have a sound military understanding have witnessed the Ukraine folding by the end of the first month having lost the vast majority of its land, sea, and air forces, only for its allies to step in and take over with never-ending replenishments of pretty much everything, a full takeover of command & control, satellite and intel assistance, and even the world’s richest man coming to the rescue to replace America’s failed GPS with his alternative satellite technology; for which the Ukrainians have nothing but praise.

As we reach the end of 2022, the West and its myriad of allies having run out of options that don’t risk nuclear retaliation, are starring at a most humiliating and unprecedented defeat at the hands of a single nation that has been massively miscalculated, having long been a super-quiet achiever led by an exceptional statesman with an insatiable nationalist resolve.

Not too long ago the world was still secretly in awe of Nazi Germany’s military might but all that has changed now for Nazi Germany’s legendary military status can finally fade into obscurity having been surpassed by that of Russia in 2022! :)
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Nov 19, 2022 4:26 am

...and this one, thought provoking.

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sat Nov 19, 2022 5:38 am

Kikapu wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Bottom line is though, that Ukraine with full backing of NATO has not been able to take the occupied areas by Russia, especially since Russia was not intending such a fight at the start in February 24th and was never prepared for it. Slowly but surely the collective West is getting tired of supplying weapons and money to Ukraine at the cost of having their economies damaged. I would not be surprised if the collective West has already made arrangements for Russia to pull out of Kherson so to give a small “victory” to Zelensky and at the same time force Zelensky to reach an agreement with Russia at the current battle lines. It might sound far fetched, but then again, wars makes strange bedfellows, no?

cyprus47975-9340.html



Well, well, well, what do you know?

Looks like the US is getting ready to pressure Zelensky to accept a negotiated settlement with Russia.

The New Voice of Ukraine
If Russia does not withdraw from Ukraine, war will have to end in negotiations, White House says

Fri, November 18, 2022, 10:27 PM
John Kirby

However, Kirby underscored that the United States will rely on Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to determine when and how the talks with Moscow could be conducted.

“This war could end today if Mr. Putin did the right thing,” Kirby said.

“Obviously, he has shown no proclivity to pull his troops out, so we also all agree that a diplomatic negotiated settlement is the next best thing to Putin just pulling his troops out.”

On Nov. 10, The New York Times reported that Chairman of U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley said that Ukraine has “achieved roughly as much as they could expect before winter sets in,” suggesting Kyiv should now seek talks with Moscow “to lock in their gains at the negotiating table.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-does- ... 00705.html


It's only a matter of time Kikapu.

The only entrenched Ruzzian troops are in DONBASS. Crimea is vulnerable as is the land bridge and it will fall as will Luhansk. It's just a question of which one first. In my opinion, it should be crimea, to get within range to fully destroy Kerch Bridge after cutting the Svatove and Melitopol supply lines.

What Ukraine needs to concern itself with, is liberating Luhansk before that allowing Ruzzia to concentrate its forces.

As for the entire front lines, Ukraine is dominating. Ruzzia is well and truly on the back foot and throwing waves of men to the slaughter as cannon fodder, resulting in hundreds of dead Ruzzians every day without gain. It's a war of attrition that Ruzzia is losing. The numbers and the weaponry favor Ukraine, and more importantly, so too the morale and willingness to fight to the end and until victory is achieved and when I talk about victory, I am talking about a comprehensive victory.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sat Nov 19, 2022 5:43 am

Get Real! wrote:End of year synopsis…

What I’ve learned from the events of the past year is that Russia has proven to be the world’s ONLY true superpower, capable of holding out against the biggest and most powerful alliance known to mankind which includes the EU, NATO, the US, Britain, Israel, Ukraine, Japan and many others including ex-Soviet states.

This anti-Russia hyper-challenge has been truly unprecedented, and a testament to Russia’s phenomenal firepower, unfathomable stockpiles of arms and ammunition, impressive multi-faceted warfare capabilities, breathtaking tenacity of its ground forces, and exceptional leadership.

To say that I’m impressed by Russia is an understatement, and I cannot fathom any other nation being capable of admirably confronting all that’s been thrown at them; which includes nonstop economic, political, and military attack for at least a year.

Those who have a sound military understanding have witnessed the Ukraine folding by the end of the first month having lost the vast majority of its land, sea, and air forces, only for its allies to step in and take over with never-ending replenishments of pretty much everything, a full takeover of command & control, satellite and intel assistance, and even the world’s richest man coming to the rescue to replace America’s failed GPS with his alternative satellite technology; for which the Ukrainians have nothing but praise.

As we reach the end of 2022, the West and its myriad of allies having run out of options that don’t risk nuclear retaliation, are starring at a most humiliating and unprecedented defeat at the hands of a single nation that has been massively miscalculated, having long been a super-quiet achiever led by an exceptional statesman with an insatiable nationalist resolve.

Not too long ago the world was still secretly in awe of Nazi Germany’s military might but all that has changed now for Nazi Germany’s legendary military status can finally fade into obscurity having been surpassed by that of Russia in 2022! :)


There is good reason why everyone hates Ruzzia! It's because they are a whore of a country and a criminal rogue.

And they are not holding on neither. Ruzzia has its pants down and now getting the good old cuccumber treatment you always talk about. Big cucumber treatment as well, with the odd pineapples thrown in for good measure. :lol: :lol: :lol:

BTW, Ruzzia isn't fighting NATO, EU or Merika. All the free world is doing is supplying some weapons. Ukrainian soldiers however, are doing all the hard work. Credit to them. If Ruzzia was fighting NATO and EU, the Ruzzians wouldn't last a week. :D

Look at all the happiness in Kherson.

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sat Nov 19, 2022 6:10 am

There are only a few instances in world history where History has been written to change the world for the better.

Such as:

Sparta and the war against Persia at Thermopylae.
Alexander The Great Conquests
The crusades
The French Revolution
The American Revolution
The Hellenic Revolution
WWI - allies against Germany
WW2 - Britain against Germany
WW2 - US against Japan
6 day War
Korean War

and finally, Ukraine completely destroying Ruzzia.

It couldn't happen to a better country. Right now, times like this, I feel like I wish I was Ukrainian. What a gritty tough and resilient country.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sat Nov 19, 2022 6:28 am

BTW bitches, it has been confirmed that Ukraine has crossed the Dnieper River and captured some small settlements on the other side and soon will have a bridgehead.

Ruzzian troops are running away. :D

Oh well bitches. Too bad and so sad for Ruzzia. :lol: :lol: :lol:

How the tables have turned hey bitches! Earlier you were all gloating and rubbing your hands with glee as you watched all the illegal acts against a peaceful country and all the crimes against humanity.

Now, you see the collective west united in support of Ukraine, so that good may triumph over true evil.

the biggest satisfaction here bitches, is that good is winning against this evil. That justice is being dished out in spades. While the war is bad, the fact that we will prevail against evil tyranny, is something we should be very proud of. Just like our forefathers fighting the NAZIs, we find ourselves fighting against a similar evil.

To be fair bitches, we could all see it coming. Ruzzia's day of reckoning is upon it and with this comes a good reality check to all you bitches on this forum. Now you know who your daddy is bitches. :lol:

Look at the bright side. You have all been liberated from your delusions. Feel all that weight come off your shoulders bitches and take the time to smell the roses, watch Coronation Street, or Dr Phil and have a good cleansing bubble baths. :lol:
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