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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:19 am

Sounds like getting “occupied” by Vlad means food, water, medicine and the right to hold peaceful protests! :lol:

“In the Black Sea port of Kherson, the first Ukrainian city to fall to the Russians, some 2,000 residents held protests against the occupiers”


What can I say... the great man is making history by redefining how “occupation” is conducted! 8)

So proud of this guy... :)
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:21 am

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Paphitis wrote:Do they want to take the capital or not?

Just today, the Russians did enter the port city and were repelled. They had to withdraw.

What else =di they come for?

And you speak about my cognitive bias. What about yours? What about your cognitive bias and support of an illegal invasion into the sovereign State of Ukraine. I mean how hypocritical can you get?


From the very beginning, before the war even started I am the first one who said the Ukraine boarding Russia by 1200+ Km cannot bring Nato to it's doorstep because this is a huge country and the result would be to encircle Russia. The whole world was watching the Russians for months patiently trying to get a logical agreement both with Nato and Ukraine, however they were all mocking them and actually the Anglo Saxons were provoking them to do this war, even setting the dates! Therefore I always believed Russia's reaction was absolutely justified. Now if you think this reaction could be anything other than an invasion then you are naive.
Russia is a superpower and had enough from the US who would have (and already has) done much worse in multiple occasions. These are the realities in which we live.

I didn't say you have cognitive bias which to a small degree everyone has. I said you had EXTREME cognitive bias which is psychotic.Who is the only one in this forum who never sees the other side of the story, while he supports everything the Anglo Saxons do under the coverage of Nato as if they are Angels blessed by God? Who is the only who constantly imagines victories and parades for what he calls "us"?


In case you didn’t know, Ukraine is not a NATO member. It applied and was vetoed by NATO in joining. So to be precise, as it stood, NATO did not want Ukraine as a member, at least for now. Why did NATO not want them? Probably because they did not want to antagonise the Russians.

So the objective of NATO is not to encircle Russia, or to start a WW3 and attack Russia.

The clear objective of NATO is defence from the kind of action Ukraine is subjected to.

Secondly, Ukraine can not be denied it’s sovereign right to forge ahead with alliances of its choice and to join the EU.

If for instance it still wants to join NATO then no one could actually blame them for that desire. There is clearly a need for their own security to join NATO. Whether NATO lets them join is of course another matter.

Which brings me back to Cyprus. I think it’s time for Cyprus to follow in Ukraine’s footsteps. You are behaving like a NATO country anyway and an EU country and have placed sanctions on Russia. And so you should. So Pootin does not like you to say the least.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:23 am

Get Real! wrote:Sounds like getting “occupied” by Vlad means food, water, medicine and the right to hold peaceful protests! :lol:

“In the Black Sea port of Kherson, the first Ukrainian city to fall to the Russians, some 2,000 residents held protests against the occupiers”


What can I say... the great man is making history by redefining how “occupation” is conducted! 8)

So proud of this guy... :)


You also said that Kharkiv fell, but it hadn't.

Then yesterday, Russia tried to enter Mariupol but the invading force was repelled.

You also said Zalensky was in Poland. He wasn’t.

You need to stop looking at state controlled Russian media. :D
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:29 am

Russia has already lost this war with the Russian soldier now confused and not knowing what it is exactly they are fighting for.

There are literally thousands of Russians captured and most of these kids are saying they are in Ukraine on exercise. Sone said they arrived to fight fascist NAZIs and expected Ukrainians to welcome them with gratitude as their saviours.

When they arrived, they found no NAZIs just normal people.

There are also reports that senior Russian military figures, many of whom have led and run highly successful military operations in the past, are at their wits end with Pootin saying that the operation into Ukraine is literally already doomed with many Russian soldiers dieing for no reason. They describe this operation as lacking planning and logistical support and destined for failure.

Sounds like that Coup is on the cards.

I dare Pootin visit the troops. The sooner the better.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:34 am

“Israeli PM's visit to Moscow underlines talk's urgency”

This meeting is very important and may well be defining in this conflict because Israel is a “silent” Russian supporter thanks to the unorthodox deal between them with respect to Syria.

Israel would never side against Russia despite the 200k odd Jewish community and Jewish government of the Ukraine.

All calls by the little weasel for Israeli support have thus far been ignored because Israel knows what’s good for them and how this would end.

Now Israel will be the go-between Russia and the US so that this conflict comes to an end and the dust settles as quickly as possible.

NATO has been defeated in this debacle as they were defeated in Syria, and it’s time to lick wounds and move on, until the next humanitarian disaster they create.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:40 am

Get Real! wrote:“Israeli PM's visit to Moscow underlines talk's urgency”

This meeting is very important and may well be defining in this conflict because Israel is a “silent” Russian supporter thanks to the unorthodox deal between them with respect to Syria.

Israel would never side against Russia despite the 200k odd Jewish community and Jewish government of the Ukraine.

All calls by the little weasel for Israeli support have thus far been ignored because Israel knows what’s good for them and how this would end.

Now Israel will be the go-between Russia and the US so that this conflict comes to an end and the dust settles as quickly as possible.

NATO has been defeated in this debacle as they were defeated in Syria, and it’s time to lick wounds and move on, until the next humanitarian disaster they create.


Wishful thinking.

Israel is probably going there to warn Pootin that any action anywhere near the Golan Heights will be met with stern Israeli action.

NATO has come out on too here and can only expand much further as little countries will be begging to join.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:46 am

Shell makes 'difficult decision' to buy Russian oil

Shell said today that it made the "difficult decision" to purchase a cargo of Russian crude oil to ensure a continued supply of energy to the European market.

Exactly what I've been saying... that there are TWO sets of the West's "rules"... the one sold for the public's consumption (the LIE) and the one that is actually implemented. (the REALITY)

Russia's hold on the West is too advantageous to be defeated.

The union of 1,000 monkeys still cannot match the intellect of the world’s greatest politician.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:49 am

Get Real! wrote:
Shell makes 'difficult decision' to buy Russian oil

Shell said today that it made the "difficult decision" to purchase a cargo of Russian crude oil to ensure a continued supply of energy to the European market.

Exactly what I've been saying... that there are TWO sets of "rules"... the one sold for the public's consumption (the LIE) and the one that is actually implemented. (the REALITY)

Russia's hold on the West is too advantageous to be defeated.


There is no hold. It’s all manufactured.

This is a clear invasion of a sovereign country and Israel isn’t going to betray its fellow Jew in Zalensky.

Israel has its own agenda and is probably looking at an incursion of Syria
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sun Mar 06, 2022 3:00 am

Paphitis wrote:Israel has its own agenda and is probably looking at an incursion of Syria

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https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-699247

Israel cannot move against Syria without Russia's permission.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Mar 06, 2022 3:08 am

''Drone footage recorded by a resident of Kherson shows a really unique and rare glimpse on close combat between elements of two professional armies.''

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