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[Pyrpolizer]

Indication that the missile was an S-300 fired from Ukraine.

https://rybar.ru/piwigo/upload/2022/11/ ... b9887d.jpg

Despite it being a Ukranian missile Russia is to blame Nato says.

Well Ukraine would not need to fire off missiles if not for the need to defend itself against Russia.

[Pyrpolizer]

Indication that the missile was an S-300 fired from Ukraine.

https://rybar.ru/piwigo/upload/2022/11/ ... b9887d.jpg

Despite it being a Ukranian missile Russia is to blame Nato says.

Imo even if it actually was a Russian missile, the Americans would do everything possible to force everyone say the opposite.

[Lordo]

Indication that the missile was an S-300 fired from Ukraine.

https://rybar.ru/piwigo/upload/2022/11/ ... b9887d.jpg

Despite it being a Ukranian missile Russia is to blame Nato says.

Imo even if it actually was a Russian missile, the Americans would do everything possible to force everyone say the opposite.

In reality if we use that logic, we can blame the Americans because it was them that put Ukraine up to asking to join Nato.

[Lordo]

Indication that the missile was an S-300 fired from Ukraine.

https://rybar.ru/piwigo/upload/2022/11/ ... b9887d.jpg

Despite it being a Ukranian missile Russia is to blame Nato says.

Well Ukraine would not need to fire off missiles if not for the need to defend itself against Russia.

Every thug uses that excuse when they beat up a victim. According to the thug the victim made them do it. In the old days the rapists used the same defence and blamed the victim for wearing a short skirt. We are now nearly in 2023, that excuse does not work.

In any case Russia did not start the war Ukraine did by attacking the eastern region and killing innocent civilians.

[Londonrake]

You seem you have a habit of regurgitating posts made months ago, each time adding more distortion to what was actually said. I was very clear from the very beginning that whatever nuclear capability was delivered to Belarus should imo be of similar status as the American nukes in Incirlik -Turkey. In other words they are in Belarus but most probably under Russian control.

Here are some links to help educate yourself instead of talking nonsense. If within 10 days the Russians intercepted 200 Himars and missed an unknown number imagine how many the Ukrainians fired from 27 of Sept. Assuming you were following the news (doubtful) there were 12 Himars hits on Antonofsky bridge on the first day whereas each Himars pallet holds 9 pieces.

https://eurasiantimes.com/himars-batter ... ry-defeat/
https://eurasiantimes.com/russia-orders ... -kinzhals/

With you, it's always slander and talking down to people. Coupled with the compulsion to add what you perceive as clever quips. If you could curb those tendencies it would probably make for an interesting debate. It's a sad fact. Reasonable discussion/debate on what's probably a lifetime important issue is lost on the altar of vanity. Otherwise, your can absolutely trust me - it will be quid pro quo.

I have to say, what on Earth are you talking about?

I think by "regurgitating posts" you mean that terrible tendency to refer to things somebody said before. Well, you will need to get used to that. If you state a view it will/could be challenged and sometimes revisited. However difficult for you that might happen to be. In that sense, you should think about your contributions. Bully-boying won’t save you from them.

"Distortions"? You have me there.

Obfuscation, obfuscation, obfuscation.

You posted a link originally that said Putin had given Lukashenko nuclear weapons. Quoting yet another of those obscure fringe websites stuffed with anti-west views. Now, you're backtracking, talking about Incirlik, which has nothing to do with the war in Ukraine.

You clearly stated that 1000 HIMARS had been expended by the Ukrainians over a month in order to take out a small bridge. Contemptuous about the weapons effectiveness. Now - surprise, surprise - you're backtracking and post a link which actually does nothing to support such a ridiculous view.

Perhaps the Russians pulled out of Kherson, their only significant gain in 9 months, because they weren't satisfied with the room service?

No comment on Kherson?

[Londonrake]

In any case Russia did not start the war Ukraine did by attacking the eastern region and killing innocent civilians.

Please, do a bit of research. Your posts on this are embassingly ignorant.

Anyway, instead of defending Russia’s invasion of its neighbour, which has apparently resulted so far in the killing of 40,000+ Ukrainian civilians and 10+ million refugees fleeing. Shouldn’t you be bitching about how UK people are being abused by their government. Who it seems should be given a fair trial then shot?

To say, you are so full of, your favourite word - shit - doesn’t do the expression justice.

Wouldn’t you be far happier wandering alone around La la land? Or perhaps, going home?

[Pyrpolizer]

You seem you have a habit of regurgitating posts made months ago, each time adding more distortion to what was actually said. I was very clear from the very beginning that whatever nuclear capability was delivered to Belarus should imo be of similar status as the American nukes in Incirlik -Turkey. In other words they are in Belarus but most probably under Russian control.

Here are some links to help educate yourself instead of talking nonsense. If within 10 days the Russians intercepted 200 Himars and missed an unknown number imagine how many the Ukrainians fired from 27 of Sept. Assuming you were following the news (doubtful) there were 12 Himars hits on Antonofsky bridge on the first day whereas each Himars pallet holds 9 pieces.

https://eurasiantimes.com/himars-batter ... ry-defeat/
https://eurasiantimes.com/russia-orders ... -kinzhals/

With you, it's always slander and talking down to people. Coupled with the compulsion to add what you perceive as clever quips. If you could curb those tendencies it would probably make for an interesting debate. It's a sad fact. Reasonable discussion/debate on what's probably a lifetime important issue is lost on the altar of vanity. Otherwise, your can absolutely trust me - it will be quid pro quo.

I have to say, what on Earth are you talking about?

I think by "regurgitating posts" you mean that terrible tendency to refer to things somebody said before. Well, you will need to get used to that. If you state a view it will/could be challenged and sometimes revisited. However difficult for you that might happen to be. In that sense, you should think about your contributions. Bully-boying won’t save you from them.

"Distortions"? You have me there.

Obfuscation, obfuscation, obfuscation.

You posted a link originally that said Putin had given Lukashenko nuclear weapons. Quoting yet another of those obscure fringe websites stuffed with anti-west views. Now, you're backtracking, talking about Incirlik, which has nothing to do with the war in Ukraine.

You clearly stated that 1000 HIMARS had been expended by the Ukrainians over a month in order to take out a small bridge. Contemptuous about the weapons effectiveness. Now - surprise, surprise - you're backtracking and post a link which actually does nothing to support such a ridiculous view.

Perhaps the Russians pulled out of Kherson, their only significant gain in 9 months, because they weren't satisfied with the room service?

No comment on Kherson?

This forum in not only about discussing -especially on issues there's is nothing to discuss.
It's also about providing information. What information did you provide so far?
It's also about providing breaking news. What breaking news did you provide so far?
It's also about providing numerical estimates. What estimates did you provide so far?
It's also about presenting interesting facts. What interesting facts did you provide so far?

The answer to is ZERO/ ZILCH on anything.

All you do is just wait for others to do the hard work. just to jump in and start your drivel, mostly containing persona analyses, totally unsupported statements, fantasies and what have you . Come on do something useful other than been a spastic senile old man who waits for everything ready on the plate.
I don't expect any miracle, so I have to force myself to ignore you from now on.

[Londonrake]

This forum in not only about discussing -especially on issues there's is nothing to discuss.
It's also about providing information. What information did you provide so far?
It's also about providing breaking news. What breaking news did you provide so far?
It's also about providing numerical estimates. What estimates did you provide so far?
It's also about presenting interesting facts. What interesting facts did you provide so far?

The answer to is ZERO/ ZILCH on anything.

All you do is just wait for others to do the hard work. just to jump in and start your drivel, mostly containing persona analyses, totally unsupported statements, fantasies and what have you . Come on do something useful other than been a spastic senile old man who waits for everything ready on the plate.
I don't expect any miracle, so I have to force myself to ignore you from now on.

Sigh!

I would rather concentrate on the issue. Not all this bully boy shit. A pious hope it seems.

"This forum in not only about discussing -especially on issues there's is nothing to discuss.". WTF does that mean?

"It's also about providing information. What information did you provide so far? ". What information are you talking about? You dismiss absolutely everything from thousands of sources out of hand, whist it seems accepting absolutely anything that comes out of Russian State media or fringe anti-west websites as gospel. Where's the middle ground?

What breaking news are you talking about? Isn't that all part and parcel of the previous?

What numerical estimates would you accept from me? Answer - none. We have Shoigu telling us - straight faced - that 5000 Russian soldiers have died in Ukraine since last March. GR tells us that's obviously wrong and concedes it's more like 10-15000 . IMHO equally ridiculous. What's your view, because you're never going to accept anything I offer?

Your interesting facts seem to consist of the like of 1000 HIMARS expended on one bridge and Putin giving Lukashenko nuclear weapons. Both nothing more than total lies. Like Russian's ever threatened "You've asked for this" major offensive in the New Year you've simply made it up. What sort of interesting facts would you accept from me? None.

"All you do is just wait for others to do the hard work. just to jump in and start your drivel, mostly containing persona analyses, totally unsupported statements, fantasies and what have you . Come on do something useful other than been a spastic senile old man who waits for everything ready on the plate."

Again you resort to "drivel". That's just a bully boy way of avoiding answering relevant points. Much like your frequent use of "rant" "diatribe" "tirade" "abuse". FFS - calm down and stop strutting around like a bully boy.

What "personal analyses"? Do you mean - referring to stuff people have posted before? Grow up. We own the views we post.

Trust me - I'm not a spastic senile old man.

I've no idea what you mean by waiting for everything to be ready on a plate.

"I don't expect any miracle, so I have to force myself to ignore you from now on."

I've lost count of your talk about ignoring me. Frankly, as I've said before, I couldn't give one. I shan't ignore you though.

You might want to consider who exactly you'll be "discussing" things like this thread with? Paphitis drops in now and then but has quite solid views and is I don't believe about to spend time debating the issues. Other than that you can agree and discuss details with a few other like minded people but that's about it.

Your choice.

[repulsewarrior]

...more on ammunition.

[repulsewarrior]

...from the horses' mouths.