That much you got right… the retarded Ukies couldn’t pull off their jocks without getting in a twist, let alone strike the bridge, the pipelines, or that little girl.
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That much you got right… the retarded Ukies couldn’t pull of their jocks without getting in a twist, let alone strike the bridge, the pipelines, or that little girl.
Kikapu wrote:Paphitis, can you with a straight face tell us that this scene is not an orchestrated Ukrainian Bull Shit propaganda?
This was even on major news network!
Yes I can tell you with a straight face.
It is very clear that some Ruzzians are surrendering after they call a Government Hotline - where they are given instructions on how to surrender and where to surrender and how to position their guns, vehicles and tanks to avoid any misunderstanding or mishap.
Whether you believe that is a staged production or not makes no difference to me. It looks very legitimate to me, but you can please yourself.
What you should be asking is WHY Ruzzians have low morale and WHY they may wish to surrender. If I was in their boots, I would be surrendering too. And there are many reasons for that. They simply don't have the will to give up their lives for Oligarch privilege when they don't even have good and proper kit, food or clean water.
An Army marches on its stomach. When the Ukrainians are eating ice-cream and cake in their ditches, that tells you everything you need to know. Supply lines dude, equipment and kit.
So, you cannot vouch for the authenticity of this particular video, especially since the faces of the supposedly Russian tank crew were never shown close up.
You know very well that the scheme the Ukrainian Government doesn't allow to show the faces of Ruzzian Soldiers, especially if the Ruzzian Soldiers opt for a prisoner exchange - they will go to jail for 15 years.
If these Ruzzian Soldiers become Ukrainians, then I am sure you will get interview videos later on. But in the mean time, the Ruzzian Soldiers have surrendered and need protections. Ukraine can't undermine that because if they do, no other Ruzzians will surrender.
Yes, very convenient for Ukraine not to give the staged game away by using the cop out explanation which you gave.
It's not just convenient. It's just common sense.
Secondly, what difference would it make. Can you recognise and distinguish between a Russian and a Ukrainian by the look of the face. Maybe if they are Chechnyan, Tatar or from the far east, but if they are Russian, you couldn't tell the difference between a Russian, Ukrainian or even an Aussie. They don't really have that masny distinguishing features. Russians and Ukrainians are racially Rus people, descended from the Fins, Scandinavia and closely related to vikings.
It is not meant for us to know whether the faces are Russian or not, but meant for Russia to determine if the so called surrendered soldiers are troops belonging to them or not, so that if they are not, they can then tell Ukrainians that the whole thing is staged and that they can prove by facial recognition that in fact the “surrendered” troops are Ukrainians with their propaganda.
Aside from the above, who would really fall for such a invitation to become a traitor to their own country for some unenforceable “cash in the sky pie” offered by Ukraine, regardless whether the Russians agree with the war or not.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Russians in Russia are calling these two “surrender” phone numbers in their millions just to crash the system. Ukraine is into the mind games business with their propaganda and sounds good to their troops to boost their egos, but what I have a hard time understanding is, that you would fall for it, that this is a credible effective propaganda.