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[Londonrake]

Interesting stuff about a captured Russian T-90M Proryv tank.

https://mil.in.ua/en/news/ukraine-s-arm ... iv-region/

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[Londonrake]

I personally doubt there was any expectation of actually destroying the bridge.

Yes, my mistake.

I thought it a reasonable discussion. Why resort to a cherry pick and mickey taking?

Constructs like bridges tend to be easy to damage but much more difficult to destroy. Particularly when so closely guarded.

Either way, it doesn't really matter though - and you're avoiding the main point.

The very fact that such an iconic construct, which bears a very close personal association with Putin and is an embodiment of Russia's commitment to making the Crimea part of the Motherland - not to mention nowadays its strategic importance - has been subjected to such an attack is highly significant. No matter how things are spun it's clearly a slap in the face humiliation for the man. Especially when added to recent events on the battlefield. It all adds to the mix of problems Putin's dealing with at the moment.

I agreed with your whole post LR minus the comment that you did not believe the bridge was not meant to be destroyed completely.

My sarcasm was only based on that.

My apologies then.

I think this was a highly significant personal event for Putin. He instigated the bridge's construction and did a great deal to bring that about. I believe he even personally drove the first vehicle across. I suspect there will be some sort of significant response. Hopefully - although it's anybody's guess of course - not one that's too significant.

I have an insider who knows a great deal about these events. He sent me his evidence:

bridge 2.jpg

[Get Real!]

Unable to have their way on the battlefield, the Anglo-Americans have gradually resorted to terrorist acts against Russian infrastructure such as underwater gas pipelines, now the Crimean bridge and others before it, and not forgetting the totally senseless killing of a famous Russian citizen’s daughter.

So everything leads in one direction... the eventual Russian retaliation which will not be pleasant.

The only question is.... will the Russians be smart enough to avoid striking anything in or around Europe and go for the root of the problem, or screw up?

That decision is what will determine the outcome of this whole debacle.

If Russia makes the wrong nuclear move they're fucked, and if not the world will be theirs.


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[Get Real!]

It all comes down to this premise:

If you nuke small/smaller nations the whole world will turn against you, but if you nuke America most of the world will applaud you, and those that don't will surrender to you.


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[miltiades]

It all comes down to this premise:

If you nuke small/smaller nations the whole world will turn against you, but if you nuke America most of the world will applaud you.


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If anyone was in doubt that the Psychopath is what I have described IT to be, surely now all doubts have disappeared.
Taking the entire board posting his usual shit, the guy/ IT, is a fucking nutter not just a Paedophile and a necrophiliac but a complete and utter Psychopath. Pe5vert go FUCK YOUR FILTHY SELF.

[Get Real!]

It all comes down to this premise:

If you nuke small/smaller nations the whole world will turn against you, but if you nuke America most of the world will applaud you, and those that don't will surrender to you.


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[Paphitis]

DING DONG bitches.

Paphitis is in da house!

How is the war going? Any news from the front lines? How is the Bakhmout offensive going?

Has Putlar had a gooid birthday?

Enjoy and marvel the great so Ukrainian military wins against the second stongest (cough cough ) military in the world.

[Paphitis]

Paphitis, can you with a straight face tell us that this scene is not an orchestrated Ukrainian Bull Shit propaganda?

This was even on major news network!

Yes I can tell you with a straight face.

It is very clear that some Ruzzians are surrendering after they call a Government Hotline - where they are given instructions on how to surrender and where to surrender and how to position their guns, vehicles and tanks to avoid any misunderstanding or mishap.

Whether you believe that is a staged production or not makes no difference to me. It looks very legitimate to me, but you can please yourself.

What you should be asking is WHY Ruzzians have low morale and WHY they may wish to surrender. If I was in their boots, I would be surrendering too. And there are many reasons for that. They simply don't have the will to give up their lives for Oligarch privilege when they don't even have good and proper kit, food or clean water.

An Army marches on its stomach. When the Ukrainians are eating ice-cream and cake in their ditches, that tells you everything you need to know. Supply lines dude, equipment and kit.

So, you cannot vouch for the authenticity of this particular video, especially since the faces of the supposedly Russian tank crew were never shown close up.

You know very well that the scheme the Ukrainian Government doesn't allow to show the faces of Ruzzian Soldiers, especially if the Ruzzian Soldiers opt for a prisoner exchange - they will go to jail for 15 years.

If these Ruzzian Soldiers become Ukrainians, then I am sure you will get interview videos later on. But in the mean time, the Ruzzian Soldiers have surrendered and need protections. Ukraine can't undermine that because if they do, no other Ruzzians will surrender.

Yes, very convenient for Ukraine not to give the staged game away by using the cop out explanation which you gave.

It's not just convenient. It's just common sense.

Secondly, what difference would it make. Can you recognise and distinguish between a Russian and a Ukrainian by the look of the face. Maybe if they are Chechnyan, Tatar or from the far east, but if they are Russian, you couldn't tell the difference between a Russian, Ukrainian or even an Aussie. They don't really have that masny distinguishing features. Russians and Ukrainians are racially Rus people, descended from the Fins, Scandinavia and closely related to vikings.

[Get Real!]

Maybe if they are Chechnyan,...

Chechen even!


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[Londonrake]

Unable to have their way on the battlefield, the Anglo-Americans have gradually resorted to terrorist acts against Russian infrastructure such as underwater gas pipelines, now the Crimean bridge and others before it, and not forgetting the totally senseless killing of a famous Russian citizen’s daughter.

The "Anglo-Americans" aren't on the battlefield. Which it seems anyway to most people here on Earth - unlike your relentless "great news from the Russian army troll factory" daily output - seem to think hasn't exactly been going Putin's way recently.

As far as "terrorist acts" are concerned either you're confused or taking the piss. Putin sent near 200,000 professional troops across the border into Ukraine 8 months ago, where they've since killed thousands, flattened large swathes of cities, towns and villages and sent millions fleeing into the uncertainty of homelessness (remember that?) or refugee destitution. So, come again about "terrorist acts".

So everything leads in one direction... the eventual Russian retaliation which will not be pleasant.

Well, we're getting there perhaps. Your sermons about Armageddon toned down. By "retaliation" though I assume you mean your oft expressed desire to see a nuclear holocaust.

The only question is.... will the Russians be smart enough to avoid striking anything in or around Europe and go for the root of the problem, or screw up?

Trust me. If Russia starts throwing nuclear weapons around it will be a screw up for humanity.

That decision is what will determine the outcome of this whole debacle.

Yes - that decision would.

If Russia makes the wrong nuclear move they're fucked, and if not the world will be theirs.

I really don't know what it takes to convince you, that the scenario you seem so ardently to desire would mean that the world you refer to - the one left, with hundreds of millions dead, millions set to die from radiation and billions starving, would be straight out of Dante. What on Earth goes on in that head of yours? Clearly, you are not a family man, nor one who troubles himself with the teachings of Jesus Christ.

If - as a token of wanting this forum to return to a semblance of normality - you dropped the deliberately provocative signature and blocked Milti we might perhaps all get on with the normal business of routinely slagging each other off.