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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby DT. » Fri Mar 04, 2022 11:58 am

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DT. wrote:This "genius" has just fallen into the west's trap and is going to be stuck in the Ukraine for the next 10yrs. This will keep him contained and away from his next target Moldova. In the meantime the west will begin the Russian drain. The Russians have never felt or seen this before. Food shortages, appliances, aircraft maintenance, factory closings...this will all be felt heavily on the population. Russia will be drained of human and economic capital, good move Putin.

That’s the narrative the West is circulating to save face and you’ve jumped straight on their bandwagon!

Welcome to the Empire of Lies that Putin has been warning us about, and here’s news for you…

The overwhelming majority of anti-Russian sanctions and embargoes announced by the West are completely HOLLOW because most ties with Russia were already dismantled/severed in previous fallout.

Ask yourself… how can America be announcing new sets of sanctions against Russia for the last 40 YEARS and still hasn’t run out of things to include? Does that make any sense to you? :lol:

And the best part… how come America has just been embargoed (FOR REAL) by Russia from acquiring any further rocket engines, parts, and maintenance… if they were sanctioning Russia so well? :wink:

It’s pretty obvious that Russia can sanction the US but not the other way round any more!

But anyway, the biggest victim in this fallout will be the EU with respect to Wheat and Energy… this debacle deserves a dedicated write-up which I’ll try to do soon.

Now, here’s America’s trade DEFICIT with Russia…

TOTAL 2021 6,388.3 29,695.1 -23,306.8 <-- you know what that minus means right?
TOTAL 2020 4,886.9 16,901.1 -12,014.2
TOTAL 2019 5,784.6 22,278.7 -16,494.2
TOTAL 2018 6,658.1 20,845.0 -14,186.9
TOTAL 2017 7,002.9 17,055.4 -10,052.5
TOTAL 2016 5,831.1 14,543.4 -8,712.3
TOTAL 2015 7,086.5 16,372.4 -9,285.9


https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c4621.html

Does that look like 40 years of US embargoes to you? :)

And what about this?

“U.S. Petroleum Imports from Russia Set a Record in Biden’s First Year”
https://cnsnews.com/article/washington/ ... first-year

What the Empire of Lies announces to the public, and what is really going on... are two different stories DT!


that minus means Russia will be short 23bn from the US and the US will shop elsewhere...keep up gramps.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:01 pm

DT. wrote:that minus means Russia will be short 23bn from the US and the US will shop elsewhere...keep up gramps.

America’s TRADE DEFICIT with Russia has been increasing year after year and you’ve been buying their LIES that Russia was being embargoed all along!

Who is the fool now DT?

Only when Russia announces an embargo against the US, it is for real.

And if Russia were to also slap the US with an OIL embargo, I’ll let your wisdom figure out what happens to America.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:16 pm

Russia Says NASA Can Use 'Broomsticks' After Stopping Rocket Engine Sales

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ru ... ar-AAUyT4w

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:38 pm

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Really I don’t know the basics.

How will the Russians pay the $110 per barrel price, which will translate to about 12 erudite a gallon for petrol?

Secondly, it’s no fantasy. Russia’s stockpiles of precision weapons are dwindled. They are in no position to fight a long protracted war and they are certainly in no position to fight a war with NATO.

They have exposed their weaknesses.

Secondly, Ukraine is in the box seat now and will win this war. Russia has lost the war already. They will not be able to occupy and secure the country. That horse has bolted now. The Russians will be lucky to save their soldiers at this point. Their casualties are sky high and their soldiers have no will or desire to fight and kill Ukrainians. Their morale is low and their troops feel dejected and demoralised. They will be lucky to survive. There are also reports that hundreds of Russian soldiers are surrendering to Ukrainian military every day. Actual Tank Ctews getting out of their tanks and just walking towards Ukrainian positions with hands raised.

The Russians have ordered crematoriums to burn the bodies of their dead so that the bodies won’t return back to Russia. The families won’t even get a body to bury for their closure.

In contrast to the Russians, the Ukraine people are determined to defend their country.

This is a lost war for Russia. I told you before it even started I doubted Russia could win. Pootin was banking on a Ukrainian surrender under the shock and awe tactics. The tactic was to kill as many civilians to break the Ukrainians resolve. Well Pootin miscalculated and created one very huge military disaster for Russia.

Just think for a moment that all their Armour is actually stuck on the bitumen, many out of fuel and not enough supply to refuel them. If they were in a war with America, or NATO, their columns of armour would be burning by now and you will see the pollution and smoke from space.

The Ukrainians don’t have that capacity but what they do have is thousands of Javelins, so even if the tanks roll in to their cities, they would be picked off 1 by 1 and Russian soldiers know this and probably don’t want to die in a war that means nothing to them. On the other hand, this war is everything for the Ukraine soldier as they know they are fighting for their country and families.


Oh no, you are not going to drag me to your never ending fantasy essays.
Not even one line of what you say is anything but fantasy.
You suffer from severe cognitive bias. Some cognitive bias is not bad per se, but yours is close to the limits of paranoia.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Mar 04, 2022 1:15 pm

DT. wrote:
This "genius" has just fallen into the west's trap and is going to be stuck in the Ukraine for the next 10yrs. This will keep him contained and away from his next target Moldova. In the meantime the west will begin the Russian drain. The Russians have never felt or seen this before. Food shortages, appliances, aircraft maintenance, factory closings...this will all be felt heavily on the population. Russia will be drained of human and economic capital, good move Putin.


DT could you please inform the audience in what currency will the Germans Italians et al pay Gazprom for their supplies of gas? Note that Gazprom Bank has not been sanctioned, gas supply from Russia has not been cut off. Maybe you could also enlighten us HOW they will pay, as from what we all know SWIFT has been banned to them. Cash?

NB. This is kind of a rhetoric question, but your reply will help spin up some dead brains.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Fri Mar 04, 2022 1:44 pm

This may help.

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Seven Russian banks have been banned from SWIFT, while two of the country's biggest institutions were excluded - Sberbank and Gazprombank. The two banks were exempted because they handle most of the payments relating to gas and oil exports.

The seven banks are VTB Bank, Bank Otkritie, Novikombank, Promsvyazbank, Rossiya Bank and Sovcombank, and VEB, Russia's development bank.

I guess this goes along with the occupation of the Ukranian President. These are some sanctions ok.

Al they have to do is open up accounts with the banks that are not sanction and there is about 150 of them.

It is quite obvious this is just for show so they look as though they are doing something but in reality they are doing nothing of any serious consequence.

I am interested to hear what kind of wealth is un-sanctionable. In UK they are going after yachts, finance and properties.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Mar 04, 2022 2:28 pm

DT. wrote:that minus means Russia will be short 23bn from the US and the US will shop elsewhere...keep up gramps.



So the core issue hiding inside the package of "sanctions" is all about stealing as much of Russian assets as possible, from those who can do it.
Thanks DT.
Perhaps that's the reason they provoked this war.
So how many Russian assets has that clown British PM grabbed so far, erm.. sorry I meant "seized" ?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Mar 04, 2022 2:34 pm

Lordo wrote:This may help.

SWIFT
Seven Russian banks have been banned from SWIFT, while two of the country's biggest institutions were excluded - Sberbank and Gazprombank. The two banks were exempted because they handle most of the payments relating to gas and oil exports.

The seven banks are VTB Bank, Bank Otkritie, Novikombank, Promsvyazbank, Rossiya Bank and Sovcombank, and VEB, Russia's development bank.

I guess this goes along with the occupation of the Ukranian President. These are some sanctions ok.

Al they have to do is open up accounts with the banks that are not sanction and there is about 150 of them.

It is quite obvious this is just for show so they look as though they are doing something but in reality they are doing nothing of any serious consequence.

I am interested to hear what kind of wealth is un-sanctionable. In UK they are going after yachts, finance and properties.


Ok Lordo, but I wanted DT to reply, to spin up some dead brains. Your has never been dead giavole mavre. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Obviously the whole "sanctions" is just a smoke screen for stealing Russian assets.
We will hear about it when the masses in Europe eventually wake up in a couple of years too late.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Fri Mar 04, 2022 2:40 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
DT. wrote:
This "genius" has just fallen into the west's trap and is going to be stuck in the Ukraine for the next 10yrs. This will keep him contained and away from his next target Moldova. In the meantime the west will begin the Russian drain. The Russians have never felt or seen this before. Food shortages, appliances, aircraft maintenance, factory closings...this will all be felt heavily on the population. Russia will be drained of human and economic capital, good move Putin.


DT could you please inform the audience in what currency will the Germans Italians et all pay Gazprom for their supplies of gas? Note that Gazprom Bank has not been sanctioned, gas supply from Russia has not been cut off. Maybe you could also enlighten us HOW they will pay, as from what we all know SWIFT has been banned to them. Cash?

NB. This is kind of a rhetoric question, but your reply will help spin up some dead brains.


There was an interesting article in yesterday's DT. It mainly concerned how for some time Russia has been quietly buying and illicitly shipping out gold from Sudan mainly but also a couple of other African countries. Such that they now have a significant stockpile of the stuff. They've been assisted in this by the activities of their Wagner group, enabling a sympathetic Sudanese warlord to gain and hold on to power in the country. As well as the gold there have been moves into cryptocurrency and the Chinese Yuan. This has been going on quietly for quite some time, in order to build up a hedge against any sanctions.

All of that is principally to fund any war effort and the State payroll. Nothing causes more trouble of course than your soldiers or civil servants not being paid.

That IMHO doesn't detract from the points that DT makes. You only have to skim through any business tome to understand the weight of what's being inflicted upon ordinary Russians. For them it's 1998 all over again.

Interesting speculation in today's press. That Putin may impose martial law in Russia, thus giving him the opportunity to round up all the notable trouble makers.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Fri Mar 04, 2022 2:58 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
DT. wrote:
This "genius" has just fallen into the west's trap and is going to be stuck in the Ukraine for the next 10yrs. This will keep him contained and away from his next target Moldova. In the meantime the west will begin the Russian drain. The Russians have never felt or seen this before. Food shortages, appliances, aircraft maintenance, factory closings...this will all be felt heavily on the population. Russia will be drained of human and economic capital, good move Putin.


DT could you please inform the audience in what currency will the Germans Italians et all pay Gazprom for their supplies of gas? Note that Gazprom Bank has not been sanctioned, gas supply from Russia has not been cut off. Maybe you could also enlighten us HOW they will pay, as from what we all know SWIFT has been banned to them. Cash?

NB. This is kind of a rhetoric question, but your reply will help spin up some dead brains.

There was an interesting article in yesterday's DT. It mainly concerned how for some time Russia has been quietly buying and illicitly shipping out gold from Sudan mainly but also a couple of other African countries. Such that they now have a significant stockpile of the stuff. They've been assisted in this by the activities of their Wagner group, enabling a sympathetic Sudanese warlord to gain and hold on to power in the country. As well as the gold there have been moves into cryptocurrency and the Chinese Yuan. This has been going on quietly for quite some time, in order to build up a hedge against any sanctions.

All of that is principally to fund any war effort and the State payroll. Nothing causes more trouble of course than your soldiers or civil servants not being paid.

That IMHO doesn't detract from the points that DT makes. You only have to skim through any business tome to understand the weight of what's being inflicted upon ordinary Russians. For them it's 1998 all over again.

Interesting speculation in today's press. That Putin may impose martial law in Russia, thus giving him the opportunity to round up all the notable trouble makers.

Your politics 101 reality check:

What America announces in public (to show off) and what America does (behind the scenes faced with reality) are two entirely different things.

Write this on your forehead.
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