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Sound advice to the pro-American fools on this forum...

The Extreme Dangerousness of Continuing to Hide the U.S. Government’s Psychopathy

Every psychopath is well practiced at lying; anyone who tolerates that person’s lying is not only encouraging psychopathy but is, oneself, psychopathically unconcerned about the public’s welfare, because any such encouragement will, itself, facilitate the further spreading of lies and deception of the public. This is how psychopathy, which is a merely personal disease, becomes spread and pandemic, thereby producing a dysfunctional society, widespread deception. It happens not only due to the presence of psychopaths, but also due to their passive assisters, who fail to call-out the lie and the liar and to expose them publicly so as to assist in penalizing them, instead of to assist the lies and liars, for those to spread and thrive.

https://southfront.org/the-extreme-dang ... ychopathy/

[Londonrake]

See you finally commented.
Although for the highlighted part, your analysis a few days ago was much more worthy.
We heard you, like we heard GR.

For me the most important issue is why the two sides are willing to risk it.
I can understand why Russia is willing to risk it, but why the Anglo-Saxon axis and it's vassal States in the EU are willing to risk it?
Please don't give me the bullshit about sovereignty, liberty, human rights etc, that they themselves violated a million times all over the world.
So what's the REAL reason?

Catching up.

It's impossible to have rational exchanges with GR. His primary response towards anybody who has a difference of opinion is bullyboy ridicule. So be it. Quid pro quo it becomes. Even that deteriorates to the level of the absurd when he's clearly drunk.

Moving on.

I'm not sure what you mean by the West "risking it". Putin's played the nuclear card since the beginning of this war. He loudly pronounced putting Russia's strategic forces on a "high state of alert" the first weekend. Something most would tend to keep stum about. Those who most importantly need to know would be aware anyway. Since, we've had regular "hints" from high Russian officials, or the great man himself, about their willingness to use nuclear weapons.

AFAIK there's been no such rhetoric from the West. Although, it seems the issue of "Western nuclear blackmail" has been played regularly on Russian State Media. Speaking of which, there's been no such reticence on their part, where they've tended to regularly talk about such things as the obliteration of the UK/London with Russian Wunderwaffe. None of that gets transmitted without the Kremlin's approval of course.

So, what are we looking at? It comes across to me as desperation. I regard Putin as the school bully boy - give me what I want or I'll hurt you. The answer to that of course is......................

Ultimately it comes down to whether the man feels sufficiently desperate to use nuclear weapons. That of course is the problem with dictators. We don't seem to have learned anything in that respect.

I'd be interested in your view and opinion on where I perhaps have it wrong.

My fundamental concern I think remains valid. Despite GR's repeated exhortations that the solution to this "problem" is the obliteration of hundreds of millions by nuclear fire, to me the man's clearly a lunatic and............................ I simply don't understand why the more rational members of this forum, despite their allegiances, don't say so. You never know, he might actually STFU on the issue. Or even - Heaven forbid - modify his psychotic views in the light of other, more sensible members, opinions.

Whatever the groupthink is, it seems to me that silence tends to imply implicit approval of his oft repeated Armageddon rants.

[Londonrake]

For LR

Is this the story you were talking about that made a headline in Western media?

https://t.me/rybar/39580

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Who struck at the column with civilians in Zaporizhzhya - analysis of Rybar

This morning, civilians waiting to leave the liberated territory from the Ukrainian Zaporozhye were hit by an artillery strike. A shell (presumably 155 mm) hit a site at the Orekhovsky car market, where columns were formed to cross the contact line.

According to official statements, 24 people died and more than 30 were injured. Naturally, the Ukrainian side immediately accused the RF Armed Forces of shelling the convoy.

Rybar's team analyzed the direction of the impact, the nature of the spread of soil and fragments. We have established that the blow was delivered from the north-western direction - from the side of the city.

If you look at what military facilities are on the trajectory of the strike, then at the address of st. Musical 4b we will find the military unit 3033 of the National Guard of Ukraine (coordinates 47.79788978589064, 35.22518575082353).

Today's shelling of its own citizens is intended to demonstrate that any attempt to leave the territory of the Russian Federation is not only undesirable, but will be punishable by death.

High resolution infographic

Come on. I thought you were better than that.

Rybar? Clearly one of your favoured "sources". Isn't he a Russian Nationalist Blogger though?

Sorry but - let's look at the big picture. My main point really.

Russia has used high-intensity bombardment of Ukrainian towns and cities for 7 months now. Not forgetting the occasional, seemingly random, use of rocket/missile munitions against similar targets. Who knows the casualty figures? I doubt though that many would argue tens of thousands of civilians have died.

Yet, throughout this "special military operation" whenever there's an incident involving civilian casualties that finds its way onto the front pages - and is subject to widescale condemnation - the Russian propaganda machine rolls out the "false flag" story.

Do you really believe the Ukranian army have followed a policy of killing thousands of their own civilians for 8 months, in order to make the Russians look bad? I thought they were doing a good enough job of that themselves.

This isn't of course something new. To me it seemed to have originated - most recently - in Syria. Where Assad's forces used chemical weapons against the Sunni population of Ghouta. Killing 1400. The Russians stepped in to blame the Sunni rebels, saying they killed their own people to make Assad look bad, and that totally disastrous ditherer Obama retreated. Hey, it worked! Let's play it again! And again, and...............................

[Pyrpolizer]

Risking a nuclear war was the highlighted in blue part I was referring to, therefore your saying I'm not sure what you mean by the West "risking it" makes me wonder if it's an effort to avoid the question.
"Risking it" was clearly referring to nuclear war....
You want to try answering my question again?

[Londonrake]

Risking a nuclear war was the highlighted in blue part I was referring to, therefore your saying I'm not sure what you mean by the West "risking it" makes me wonder if it's an effort to avoid the question.
"Risking it" was clearly referring to nuclear war....
You want to try answering my question again?

I thought I did answer your "question".

I'm sure all sensible people hope that nuclear weapons aren't used. If so it would surely be on the part of a desperate, cornered, Vladimir Putin? What the response would be is a matter of multiple scenario guesses. I can't see any of them ending well for Putin though. Despite yesterday's Nuremberg Rally he comes across as a man between a rock and hard place.

Notwithstanding, he's clearly made a lot of serious miscalculations in the past 8 months. It hasn't turned out at all to be like his great - effortless - victory in annexing Crimea - despite I'm sure his expectations.

Again....................... such power is in the hands of a single individual?

Despite all the asides. It does seem that today's main news is about events in Lyman. No?

[Pyrpolizer]

For LR

Is this the story you were talking about that made a headline in Western media?

https://t.me/rybar/39580

[ Photo ]
Who struck at the column with civilians in Zaporizhzhya - analysis of Rybar

This morning, civilians waiting to leave the liberated territory from the Ukrainian Zaporozhye were hit by an artillery strike. A shell (presumably 155 mm) hit a site at the Orekhovsky car market, where columns were formed to cross the contact line.

According to official statements, 24 people died and more than 30 were injured. Naturally, the Ukrainian side immediately accused the RF Armed Forces of shelling the convoy.

Rybar's team analyzed the direction of the impact, the nature of the spread of soil and fragments. We have established that the blow was delivered from the north-western direction - from the side of the city.

If you look at what military facilities are on the trajectory of the strike, then at the address of st. Musical 4b we will find the military unit 3033 of the National Guard of Ukraine (coordinates 47.79788978589064, 35.22518575082353).

Today's shelling of its own citizens is intended to demonstrate that any attempt to leave the territory of the Russian Federation is not only undesirable, but will be punishable by death.

High resolution infographic

Come on. I thought you were better than that.

I asked if that's the story. I also thought you were better than that, having experienced all the lies Zelensky and the Americans say and do to accuse Russia, making it headlines in Western media. Should I mention the shelling of the ZNPP, accusing the Russians of shelling themselves, the "mass graves" in Izium that were actually single graves marked with numbers and Christian crosses, or the recent accusation that Russia blew up their own Nord Stream assets?
Just point me one example of a crime against humanity that either Ukraine or the Americans or any other Western did, that made it a headline in Western media, without actually accusing Russia of doing it . JUST ONE.


Rybar? Clearly one of your favoured "sources". Isn't he a Russian Nationalist Blogger though?

It's run by Russian individuals. Not nationalistic at all. It often criticizes the Russian Military and officials.

Sorry but - let's look at the big picture. My main point really.

Russia has used high-intensity bombardment of Ukrainian towns and cities for 7 months now. Not forgetting the occasional, seemingly random, use of rocket/missile munitions against similar targets. Who knows the casualty figures? I doubt though that many would argue tens of thousands of civilians have died.

You seem to forget that the Ukrainians were placing their tanks and artillery inside towns, next to schools and hospitals, shelling the buildings around them just for fan/or to accuse the Russians. You seem to forget they were shooting in cold blood everyone trying to leave. How else would they keep their human shield in place? All these of course never made it to the Western media. There have been hundreds of testimonies from the media I am watching though.

Yet, throughout this "special military operation" whenever there's an incident involving civilian casualties that finds its way onto the front pages - and is subject to widescale condemnation - the Russian propaganda machine rolls out the "false flag" story.

Precisely, because the vast majority is false flag. Do you know most of the Himars are currently shot randomly in civilian areas in Donesk hitting bus stops, streets, parks and squares?
Of course you don't. Nothing of that would ever make it a headline in Western media.

Do you really believe the Ukrainian army have followed a policy of killing thousands of their own civilians for 8 months, in order to make the Russians look bad? I thought they were doing a good enough job of that themselves.

Civilians have been killed as it always happens in wars. Please don't give me the shit that Russian shelling Killed civilians whereas the Ukrainian shelling was delivering rose water. However yes I absolutely believe the Ukrainians killed civilians on purpose because I ve watched testimonies from plain people! You know why? Because they don't consider the people on the East their own. Is that news to you? ?? All the Ukrainians want is the territory of those people (and their resources of course).

This isn't of course something new. To me it seemed to have originated - most recently - in Syria. Where Assad's forces used chemical weapons against the Sunni population of Ghouta. Killing 1400. The Russians stepped in to blame the Sunni rebels, saying they killed their own people to make Assad look bad, and that totally disastrous ditherer Obama retreated. Hey, it worked! Let's play it again! And again, and...............................

Sorry I don't/didn't follow the war in Syria, but if it's true then read my first paragraph above. Blaming someone else is a widespread practice, used by everybody not just the "bad" Russians.

[Londonrake]

Thus - as always - is revealed the pointlessness of discussion on something as divisive as a war.

Time of course will tell. Let's hope we're around to discuss it - and not among the hundreds of millions victims of GR's fantasies.

Apparently - as a Christian Orthodox country, we'll all be spared.


BTW - in the hope of not provoking anybody. I wish you all a very happy Independence Day.


Nighty, night. Back after a dozen posts or so.

[Get Real!]

Time of course will tell. Let's hope we're around to discuss it - and not among the hundreds of millions victims of GR's fantasies.

Forum idiot, you should be doing a lot more READING and LISTENING, and far less posting!

You can start right here...

https://zggg98sgwbg1gh.bitchute.com/hYA ... fQyhWH.mp4

[Pyrpolizer]

Risking a nuclear war was the highlighted in blue part I was referring to, therefore your saying I'm not sure what you mean by the West "risking it" makes me wonder if it's an effort to avoid the question.
"Risking it" was clearly referring to nuclear war....
You want to try answering my question again?

I thought I did answer your "question".

I'm sure all sensible people hope that nuclear weapons aren't used. If so it would surely be on the part of a desperate, cornered, Vladimir Putin? What the response would be is a matter of multiple scenario guesses. I can't see any of them ending well for Putin though. Despite yesterday's Nuremberg Rally he comes across as a man between a rock and hard place.


Notwithstanding, he's clearly made a lot of serious miscalculations in the past 8 months. It hasn't turned out at all to be like his great - effortless - victory in annexing Crimea - despite I'm sure his expectations.

Again....................... such power is in the hands of a single individual?

Despite all the asides. It does seem that today's main news is about events in Lyman. No?

You are still avoiding a straight answer with the pretext of multiple scenarios.
There are no multiple scenarios, it's either a win or lose scenario.

I told you before that you have no idea how the Russian state works. You are getting ridiculous thinking this is all about Putin's war. It's Russia's war! The West already said they will make sure Russia will lose this war. Even Liz Truss said it the other day. In other words their aim is to make Russia desperate. Do you agree so far?

From the point when Russia gets desperate there are only two possibilities:
It will either accept defeat and withdraw and then collapse from inside, or it will initiate a nuclear Armageddon.
If it collapses from inside then the West will win everything it wanted. If however Russia initiates a nuclear Armageddon the whole world will lose. It's a 50-50% probability actually.

So what's the REAL reason taking such a huge risk for the West?
There must be something REALLY HUGE on the stakes for them too, so what is it?

[Paphitis]

BTW! DING DONG bitches!

Any news from the frontlines! How is the Bakhmout offensive going? Has it fallen into Russian hands yet?

Any news from Lyman? What happened to the Russians there.

Glory to Ukraine bitches.

Everyday, more than 600 orcs are turned into sunflowers and Russia continues to supply Ukraine with weapons. Our number 1 weapons supplier.

And we don’t know how many but Ukraine has captured up to 4000 POWs in the last 24 hours bitches. That’s a lot of cigarette packets Ukraine needs to give.