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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Sep 27, 2022 11:47 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsMN4FC3Nao[/youtube]

...the words, "fait accompli" comes to mind.


Assuming they did vote at gunpoint, do you have any evidence that their vote was not secret? :wink:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:09 am

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Paphitis wrote:It was the first time and last time ever let me tell you.

I have a house in Ktima, not far from the police station and Paphos District Courts, and around the corner was the buis terminal which I can get to on foot. Someone, told me I could catch the bus. I was against it and either favoured hiring a car which is my usual tactic, or catch a taxi. I was treated like I was some weirdo for wanting to catch a taxi. I always found Cypriot taxis as dirt cheap and convenient.

Anyway, the bus fare was 15 Euro. When I saw the minibus, I was having second thoughts. Then when I was inside, the dam thing was like a sauna. When we got going, the airconditioning would still not work. It must have been over 40 degrees. And then when I was sitting next to these filthy Russo-Pontians, and smelling their body odour, I lost the plot. I was becomming one grumpy Paphiti and started giving the driver a hard time. My wife would say and she will attest, then when I get into one of my moods it's time to take cover. Then I had it and ORDERED the guy to stop which he did telling the idiot I wanted to get out. I was vomiting quite violently within seconds of leaving the bus.

I went to the Yeroskipou Taverna. Went to bathroom, then sat down there for a while to compose myself, had some refreshing soft drinks and lots of water and some fruit etc etc. Recovered quite quickly in the fresh air.

I then called a taxi. I was relieved. Didn't care how much I was going to pay. Some minutes later, my taxi arrived. A very late model Mercedes. My driver was a Kalamara. An older gentleman clearly from Greece. As it turns out, he was an ELDYK Vet who saw action at Nicosia Airport in 1974. Very pleasant man, who had some very interesting yarns and was as you would expect from a kalamara, quite boisterous and a typical Greek Manga. It was a good ride. On the highway between Limassol and Nicosia, not a km under 150. :D

Cost was 50 Euro. That's how Paphitis does it bitches.

Cheap as chips as far as I was concerned. I don't know if the Kalamara gave me a discount or not - but I found it quite cheap. We did have a real good rapport. Quite a very likable guy as well. Now, I think I even tipped him. My tipsd are minimum 10 Euros, but if I really like you, it's more likely 20 Euros. I really liked my taxi driver, so I think he got a 20. Also, for the fact I have a soft spot for vets.

That's how Paphitis rolls bitches. 8)

I hired a car from Nicosia the next day from memory.

Planning to hire a car in Istanbul next year as well. Plan to drive from Istandbul to Galipoli, get on the ferry, to Canakale, and drive all the way down the Western Coast and then Ferry (without hire car) to SAMOS.

To be totally honest with you, I don't mind Turkey at all. Or the Turkish people. But good lord, I'd rather slit my wrists going anywhere near those Russo-Pontians. :shock:


Stupid & ignorant Paphitako first learn the difference between Russian Ethnicity and Russian Federation Nationality. I doubt you learn anything from this forum other than wasting your time writing fantasy stories from "da house" but anyway here's the link.

cyprus47975-8060.html#p927891

The Pontians are actually Ethnic Greeks, who took refuse at the south territories of USSR during the Armenian and Pontian Genocide. After the collapse of USSR the Greek Gvnt offered them all Greek passports to repatriate as many as she could.
Many of them came to Cyprus the vast majority of which working at building construction sites, mainly in Paphos.
Very poor people and mostly uneducated. They were speaking all sorts of languages including Turkish.
The term Russo-Pontians is just our invention, to describe the origin of those poor people.
After the 2013 economic disaster in Cyprus all Pontians disappeared from Cyprus.

So you entered a bus full of Pontians sweating all day at construction sites under 40 deg C heat, living only God knows under what conditions, exploited like hell, and expected them to smell Givenchy Fragrances?

Fyi most buses here have weird smell, just because they are mostly used by Indian, Pakistani and other foreign labourers. Very few Cypriots use them. The situation changed lately as Cypriot elderly have no other option.

You are an ignorant of everything about Cyprus. Remind us again of your fantasy story about the Russians who opened up a casino in the center of Paphos trying to catch a fish out of you. :lol: :lol: :lol:


My friggin ass they were Greek. I know what Greeks are like and what they look like, talk like and the way they behave.

These were not Greek. Maybe claiming so, but they looked very Ruzzian to me. Usually, you can't smell Greeks. And Greeks don't have that tell tale stony and cold face with cringy evil looking beady eyes. Greeks also usually smile and are a happy people.

Sorry, nothing Greek about them.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Wed Sep 28, 2022 3:19 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
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Paphitis wrote:If Ruzzia use a nuclear weapon, it will be to their detriment. They will be a Pariah for the next 50 years. It can't be compared to Japan at all. The Allies then were only seeking a Japanese surrender to end WW2 and did not want to invade Japan. So this was the only way.


You see Paphitis, you are making excuses to the collective West in their justification for nuking Japan twice, a civilian targets each time no less, because it would save lives of the allied forces had the war continued, and if the aim is to end the war by nuking the opposition, then surely under your own reasoning in using nukes can be justified, then surely Russia using nukes in Ukraine would also end the war and saving thousands of lives from both sides, no?


The west isn't required to justify anything. The response from the west has already been justified and it is just a response to an illegal invasion of a sovereign country and member of the United Nations.

The west has not invaded anyone, or acted illegally.

The collective west sees the invasion of Ukraine as no different to the invasion of Poland by Hitler, and it is an event which will either create dire consequences for the globe. In any event, threats of Nuclear War are completely meaningless. The western military doctrine when dealing with dangerous tyrants like pootin, is that the west makes a stand in Ukraine, to prevent future disasters for Poland, Moldova, Finland, and the Baltics. Ukraine now is the defence line for Europe at large. So now we are in a game of poker. And the collective west and NATO are calling to see Pootin's hand. If worse comes to worse, Russia will be gambling with the existence of Ruzzia at large.

For the last 20 years, the West has given Pootin the benefit of doubt. But now, those days are over.

As for nuking Japan, the choices were clear. Either nuke Japan, and cause Japan to surrender, or invade them, have war for many more years to come, which Japan would have a good chance of winning, but losing even more civilians.

Neither the US, Australia, or Britain would have had the appetite for continued war.


Let me ask you a question. Why did they nuke Japan, and not Germany which was the root of the problem? I 'd bet you don't know. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Ask away. Unlike you, I'm only too happy to answer questions.

There are many reasons. Not least of which Fat Man wasn't ready till late July 1945, a project led by Physicist Oppenheimer from the University of California. Germany had surrendered by 30th of April, 1945. It was already occupied by allied troops.

In addition, Germany was already backs to the wall and losing by that stage prior to their surrender, with their forces in retreat and allied forces closing in from France and from the East (Ruzzians).

There was no need to use a Nuclear Weapon on Germany. It's far too destructive on an enemy already in a state of total collapse, where their defeat was imminent and assured.

Japan on the other hand was in retreat in the Pacific. But there were no allied troops in Japan itself. The Americans were already dictating the war and well in control, but to force a surrender, the allies (US, UK and Australia) were contemplating a costly D Day style landing in Japan. You could imagine the losses there. And I actually believe Japan would have defeated the Allies guaranteed. Japanese do not surrender easily. One thing you can say about the Japanese is that you would prefer to face the NAZI Germans any day than face the Japanese, and in their own country within their own borders, well it would not have been very nice.

I have a lot of time for the Japanese. I do not support or take any delight in having their cities nuked. Despite the fact that they were a WW2 enemy to Australia, and the fact thousands of Australian POWs were killed, tortured and starved by them. Yes animosity. But I respect them as a people and a culture. I've witnessed them as a people to know their strengths. Something I can't bring myself to do with regard to the filthy Ruzzian scum. Yes, Japanese people are superior to Ruzzians. I truly believe this to be true. Cleaner and far more sophisticated at all levels and superior intelligence as well. I respect that a lot.

You can never meet a more thoughtful and composed race of people, rich in culture and tradition.

To cut a long story short, the reason why Japan was nuked during WW2 was to hasten their surrender without necessitating a full scale invasion of Japan. It was deemed far less costly in terms of losses, especially of our own troops.


No that was not the reason. In fact there was no reason to nuke Japan at all, because it was already defeated. It would collapse and surrender any time having lost all it's naval and Air capability, via simple allied naval and air blockade, lack of resources etc. The excuse for the nukes was always to save lives assuming there would be an invasion in Japan. No such invasion was necessary. Try again.


You need to think about this.

Yes, the Americans were actually giving Japan a chance to surrender and end the war - but the Japanese would not surrender and there was nothing the Americans or allies could do to force them to surrender. The allies had no troops on the ground in Japan, and therefore, Japan did not have to surrender and would not surrender.

Unless you got your troops surrounding Tokyo and putting them under siege like the allies did to Berlin, the Japanese were not going to surrender.

As far as the Americans were concerned, they wanted a complete and unconditional surrender from Japan. They achieved that objective by nuking Hirishima, and Nagasaki.

The Americans and allies had defeated japan in the Pacific, but Japan was not under siege, and the Americans only had strike range with B29 bombers only months earlier. japan still had a vast industrial capability, could build ships, and aircraft and their military was still formidable, unlike Germany which was almost completely carpet bombed and decimated.


Fyi japan was carpet bombed and decimated already just like Germany. The Japanese wouldn't surrender even if another 10 cities were nuked, as they already faced more destruction from conventional weapons. What made them surrender were the Soviets, who changed sides and declared war against them by invading on 9 of August exactly the day the 2nd nuke was dropped. It was a choice between becoming Communists or signing a better treaty with the Americans.

Every search in Google would tell you the exact same thing.

Japan surrendered because the Soviet Union entered the war. Japanese leaders said the bomb forced them to surrender because it was less embarrassing to say they had been defeated by a miracle weapon. Americans wanted to believe it, and the myth of nuclear weapons was born. Look at the facts.

https://www.carnegiecouncil.org/explore ... ssroom/010

https://www.history.co.uk/shows/x-compa ... der-in-ww2

and many other...


It had nothing to do with Ruzzia declaring war. The Japanese probably would have destroyed the red army. I also believe they probably would have beat the Americans as well if the allies invaded actually. That's how much I rate the Japanese and their motivation.

A similar motivation that you see from the Ukrainian Military which is difficult to harness - which is why Ruzzia will lose the war in Ukraine.

Greece declared war on Japan too. The Japanese feared the Americans most, but yes, I take your point that the Japanese would 100% rather surrender to America than to Ruzzia. That goes without saying. I think surrendering to America would be preferred by anyone rather than Ruzzia. Germany preferred to surrender to America instead of Ruzzia as well. No one likes Ruzzians. The Americans would be a lot better to submit to and eventually, Japan will be sovereign again like before, and being under American hegemony is a lot better than Ruzzian as Americans a probably a great deal more soft and fairer, as well as forgiving, with the passage of time.

And that has proven to be the case. Japan today is a great friend and ally. America, and Australia have a great friendly relationship with Japan as an equal partner and ally. Almost like WW2 never even happened. Japan is a very trusted and likable partner and I don't think that will ever change. As a people they are very good, clean and just 100% fabulous and a net contributor to global peace and stability. Very advance industry as well, probably second to none and we are talking high quality industry as well, on par to Europe and North America.

They are a good country.

Unlike Ruzzia and Ruzzians which are the scum of earth. Japanese, just like virtually every country on earth don't like Ruzzians. Germans don't like them either. Ruzzians are just beyond the pale for most. Now I got to qualify that I am not talking about Russians as a whole, just Ruzzians and their political leadership and their seemingly existing mindset. It's literally filthy and criminal. I have met many great Russians and yes, nice people and all that. I'm not racist against Russians, just Ruzzians. And there are millions of Russians who don't like what Ruzzia is doing and they even feel embarrassed and many of them are on the streets demonstrating and getting arrested.

I even find Russian women extremely attractive and all that. But not Ruzzians.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:52 am

America is Europe’s friend! :)

The Nord Stream sabotage yesterday…

https://avia-pro.net/news/prichina-chp- ... -podryvami

The culprit?

Hear it from the horse's mouth on ABC News on February 7, 2022...

https://zggg98sgwbg1gh.bitchute.com/FQj ... NF0uHX.mp4

With friends like these who needs enemies...
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Wed Sep 28, 2022 9:59 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsMN4FC3Nao[/youtube]

...the words, "fait accompli" comes to mind.


Assuming they did vote at gunpoint, do you have any evidence that their vote was not secret? :wink:

If there were no observers, why would they make people vote at gunpoint. They can just as well declare the win no matter what the result, if they were that way inclined.

One of the things Russia offered the all people in these areas was the cancellation of their debt. That is some help. And of course the stopping of bombings from either side.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Wed Sep 28, 2022 11:30 am

Articles...

Thousands protest Russia sanctions in Germany's Schwerin <--- News that will never make the corrupt Western media.
https://rumble-foxo.cdn.rumble.cloud/vi ... Yf.caa.mp4

An American act of terrorism against Europe...
https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1 ... 0-m73S.mp4

America defeats Germany for the third time in a century
https://mronline.org/2022/02/28/america ... a-century/

Bots are flooding social media with pro-US propaganda...
https://mronline.org/2022/09/24/bots-ar ... dies-show/
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Sep 28, 2022 1:30 pm

Paphitis wrote:My friggin ass they were Greek. I know what Greeks are like and what they look like, talk like and the way they behave.

These were not Greek. Maybe claiming so, but they looked very Ruzzian to me. Usually, you can't smell Greeks. And Greeks don't have that tell tale stony and cold face with cringy evil looking beady eyes. Greeks also usually smile and are a happy people.

Sorry, nothing Greek about them.


Oh yeah "They were not Greek". You are very good in throwing denials silly boy, regardless of how much out of reality you are.
No matter how loud you bark, and how forcibly you twist, do digest it. The Pontians ARE ETNHIC GREEKS. The looks on their face and their mentality is absolutely irrelevant. Have you ever seen Greeks from Lebanon? They look like Lebanse and they speak perfect French like the Lebanese! Greeks from Egypt? They look like Egyptian. Greeks from Turkey? They look and behave like Turkish "yavrim". Russian citizens of the far East? They look like Chinese. It's the local micro-climate that changes the facial looks of humans. And the environment they live that underlines their behavior. Even Greeks from England look and behave like British over the years...

More about the Pontian ETHNIC GREEKS here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontic_Greek
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Sep 28, 2022 1:46 pm

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It had nothing to do with Ruzzia declaring war. The Japanese probably would have destroyed the red army. I also believe they probably would have beat the Americans as well if the allies invaded actually. That's how much I rate the Japanese and their motivation.

A similar motivation that you see from the Ukrainian Military which is difficult to harness - which is why Ruzzia will lose the war in Ukraine.

Greece declared war on Japan too. The Japanese feared the Americans most, but yes, I take your point that the Japanese would 100% rather surrender to America than to Ruzzia. That goes without saying. I think surrendering to America would be preferred by anyone rather than Ruzzia. Germany preferred to surrender to America instead of Ruzzia as well. No one likes Ruzzians. The Americans would be a lot better to submit to and eventually, Japan will be sovereign again like before, and being under American hegemony is a lot better than Ruzzian as Americans a probably a great deal more soft and fairer, as well as forgiving, with the passage of time.

And that has proven to be the case. Japan today is a great friend and ally. America, and Australia have a great friendly relationship with Japan as an equal partner and ally. Almost like WW2 never even happened. Japan is a very trusted and likable partner and I don't think that will ever change. As a people they are very good, clean and just 100% fabulous and a net contributor to global peace and stability. Very advance industry as well, probably second to none and we are talking high quality industry as well, on par to Europe and North America.

They are a good country.

Unlike Ruzzia and Ruzzians which are the scum of earth. Japanese, just like virtually every country on earth don't like Ruzzians. Germans don't like them either. Ruzzians are just beyond the pale for most. Now I got to qualify that I am not talking about Russians as a whole, just Ruzzians and their political leadership and their seemingly existing mindset. It's literally filthy and criminal. I have met many great Russians and yes, nice people and all that. I'm not racist against Russians, just Ruzzians. And there are millions of Russians who don't like what Ruzzia is doing and they even feel embarrassed and many of them are on the streets demonstrating and getting arrested.

I even find Russian women extremely attractive and all that. But not Ruzzians.


It doesn't matter what you believe. What matters is what historians say...
A lot of people consider the Americans criminals and scum and the Germans racist to the bone, with a lot of inherited fascist mentality still prevailing. The truth is the majority of the World considers those generalized views idiotic, just like your own generalized view.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Wed Sep 28, 2022 1:47 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:My friggin ass they were Greek. I know what Greeks are like and what they look like, talk like and the way they behave.

These were not Greek. Maybe claiming so, but they looked very Ruzzian to me. Usually, you can't smell Greeks. And Greeks don't have that tell tale stony and cold face with cringy evil looking beady eyes. Greeks also usually smile and are a happy people.

Sorry, nothing Greek about them.


Oh yeah "They were not Greek". You are very good in throwing denials silly boy, regardless of how much out of reality you are.
No matter how loud you bark, and how forcibly you twist, do digest it. The Pontians ARE ETNHIC GREEKS. The looks on their face and their mentality is absolutely irrelevant. Have you ever seen Greeks from Lebanon? They look like Lebanse and they speak perfect French like the Lebanese! Greeks from Egypt? They look like Egyptian. Greeks from Turkey? They look and behave like Turkish "yavrim". Russian citizens of the far East? They look like Chinese. It's the local micro-climate that changes the facial looks of humans. And the environment they live that underlines their behavior. Even Greeks from England look and behave like British over the years...

More about the Pontian ETHNIC GREEKS here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontic_Greek

Erdogan is also a Pontian. He was born in a village called "Potamia-Guneysu" in north east Turkey. His roots are from this village.
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