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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Tue Sep 27, 2022 11:56 am

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Paphitis wrote:I remember being on a bus from Paphos to Nicosia a few years ago. I was surrounded by Ruzzians. I only made it to Yeroskipou.

As we were driving along, their smell and the heat was affecting me. I yelled out to the bus driver to stop the bus. I only just made it out puking my breakfast. The bus driver was waiting for me to re- enter and I said, sorry, I'm staying here. Walkked to the taverna, about 1 km down the road, sat down to have some refreshments, called a taxi and continued my journey.

I'll never forget that.

I have never see a more filthier people. I swear that guy next to be never showered for 2 weeks. Putrid! :x

And that cold stoney look on their faces and beady eyes. There is something not quite right. Can't put my finger on it.

Who takes a bus in Cyprus? And from Paphos???

A stingy backpacker.

What's the matter with you pibol. Here is Bafidoboullo turning out not only to be environmental but also socialist and you are knocking him. There is clearly many people who use the bus service, not everybody earns the same kind of living you rich boys do and in any case public transport is better for environment.

Now, once I landed in Paphos airport and got a cab into to town, and the driver turned out to be a Terggish migrant from Georgia. He could not speak Greek or English but we managed to converse in Tergish. What is the world coming to.

While we are at it, why is there no public bus service from the airports into Nicosia. I mean even in the worst third world countries this service exists.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby DT. » Tue Sep 27, 2022 12:14 pm

Lordo wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:I remember being on a bus from Paphos to Nicosia a few years ago. I was surrounded by Ruzzians. I only made it to Yeroskipou.

As we were driving along, their smell and the heat was affecting me. I yelled out to the bus driver to stop the bus. I only just made it out puking my breakfast. The bus driver was waiting for me to re- enter and I said, sorry, I'm staying here. Walkked to the taverna, about 1 km down the road, sat down to have some refreshments, called a taxi and continued my journey.

I'll never forget that.

I have never see a more filthier people. I swear that guy next to be never showered for 2 weeks. Putrid! :x

And that cold stoney look on their faces and beady eyes. There is something not quite right. Can't put my finger on it.

Who takes a bus in Cyprus? And from Paphos???

A stingy backpacker.

What's the matter with you pibol. Here is Bafidoboullo turning out not only to be environmental but also socialist and you are knocking him. There is clearly many people who use the bus service, not everybody earns the same kind of living you rich boys do and in any case public transport is better for environment.

Now, once I landed in Paphos airport and got a cab into to town, and the driver turned out to be a Terggish migrant from Georgia. He could not speak Greek or English but we managed to converse in Tergish. What is the world coming to.

While we are at it, why is there no public bus service from the airports into Nicosia. I mean even in the worst third world countries this service exists.


Had a perfectly good bus service to the Nicosia Airport but you assholes bombed it.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Tue Sep 27, 2022 1:11 pm

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Kikapu wrote:Let’s just explore what consequences Russia would face from the collective West should Russia use tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine as America is warning Russia that there will be consequences.

Will there be more sanctions or will there be a nuclear response against Russia?

Personally, the collective West will not stick their necks out for Ukraine by firing nukes at Russia because there will be a retaliation and which country would suffer the most economically should that happen, Russia getting nuked or the country who had dared to nuke Russia? The answer should be self evident I would imagine, therefore, the nuclear option against Russia for the collective West is out of the question, which gives Russia a free hand to nuke Ukraine should it come to that. There will be other consequences for Russia, but being nuked by the collective West is not one of them, and Zelensky knows it too well, which is why he is in a panic mode.

Pretty much what this article is saying:

https://warnews247-gr.translate.goog/mi ... x_tr_hl=en


And what this guy is saying!

Medvedev makes forecast about nuclear strike on Ukraine

Ukrainska Pravda

STANISLAV POHORILOV — TUESDAY, 27 SEPTEMBER 2022, 11:54

Dmitry Medvedev, Deputy Chairman of the Russian Security Council believes that Russia can launch a nuclear strike on Ukraine with impunity, since NATO countries will not take retaliatory steps, worrying about their own security.

Source: Medvedev on Telegram

Quote from Medvedev: "Let's imagine that Russia is forced to use the most formidable weapons against the Ukrainian regime, which has committed a large-scale act of aggression that is dangerous for the very existence of our state. I believe that NATO will not directly interfere in the conflict even in this scenario. After all, the security of Washington, London, and Brussels for the North Atlantic alliance is much more important than the fate of an unnecessary Ukraine."

Details: Medvedev is convinced that NATO countries are not going to "die in a nuclear apocalypse", and therefore they will "swallow the use of any weapon" by Russia. :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/medvedev-mak ... 02627.html
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Tue Sep 27, 2022 1:33 pm

DT. wrote:
Lordo wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:I remember being on a bus from Paphos to Nicosia a few years ago. I was surrounded by Ruzzians. I only made it to Yeroskipou.

As we were driving along, their smell and the heat was affecting me. I yelled out to the bus driver to stop the bus. I only just made it out puking my breakfast. The bus driver was waiting for me to re- enter and I said, sorry, I'm staying here. Walkked to the taverna, about 1 km down the road, sat down to have some refreshments, called a taxi and continued my journey.

I'll never forget that.

I have never see a more filthier people. I swear that guy next to be never showered for 2 weeks. Putrid! :x

And that cold stoney look on their faces and beady eyes. There is something not quite right. Can't put my finger on it.

Who takes a bus in Cyprus? And from Paphos???

A stingy backpacker.

What's the matter with you pibol. Here is Bafidoboullo turning out not only to be environmental but also socialist and you are knocking him. There is clearly many people who use the bus service, not everybody earns the same kind of living you rich boys do and in any case public transport is better for environment.

Now, once I landed in Paphos airport and got a cab into to town, and the driver turned out to be a Terggish migrant from Georgia. He could not speak Greek or English but we managed to converse in Tergish. What is the world coming to.

While we are at it, why is there no public bus service from the airports into Nicosia. I mean even in the worst third world countries this service exists.


Had a perfectly good bus service to the Nicosia Airport but you assholes bombed it.

You what? Assholes? it takes one to no one my friend.

Buuuuuuuuut it weren't me, honest gov. I was on the other side of Cyprus when we bombed it.

When was this then? 1571?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Tue Sep 27, 2022 1:35 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Let’s just explore what consequences Russia would face from the collective West should Russia use tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine as America is warning Russia that there will be consequences.

Will there be more sanctions or will there be a nuclear response against Russia?

Personally, the collective West will not stick their necks out for Ukraine by firing nukes at Russia because there will be a retaliation and which country would suffer the most economically should that happen, Russia getting nuked or the country who had dared to nuke Russia? The answer should be self evident I would imagine, therefore, the nuclear option against Russia for the collective West is out of the question, which gives Russia a free hand to nuke Ukraine should it come to that. There will be other consequences for Russia, but being nuked by the collective West is not one of them, and Zelensky knows it too well, which is why he is in a panic mode.

Pretty much what this article is saying:

https://warnews247-gr.translate.goog/mi ... x_tr_hl=en


And what this guy is saying!

Medvedev makes forecast about nuclear strike on Ukraine

Ukrainska Pravda

STANISLAV POHORILOV — TUESDAY, 27 SEPTEMBER 2022, 11:54

Dmitry Medvedev, Deputy Chairman of the Russian Security Council believes that Russia can launch a nuclear strike on Ukraine with impunity, since NATO countries will not take retaliatory steps, worrying about their own security.

Source: Medvedev on Telegram

Quote from Medvedev: "Let's imagine that Russia is forced to use the most formidable weapons against the Ukrainian regime, which has committed a large-scale act of aggression that is dangerous for the very existence of our state. I believe that NATO will not directly interfere in the conflict even in this scenario. After all, the security of Washington, London, and Brussels for the North Atlantic alliance is much more important than the fate of an unnecessary Ukraine."

Details: Medvedev is convinced that NATO countries are not going to "die in a nuclear apocalypse", and therefore they will "swallow the use of any weapon" by Russia. :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/medvedev-mak ... 02627.html

What is it about assholes called Dimitri? They are so aggressive. Is this cove short? I bet he is just like Milti.

Chill man, relax. Otherwise you will die of a heart attack.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:20 pm

DT. wrote:
Paphitis wrote:I remember being on a bus from Paphos to Nicosia a few years ago. I was surrounded by Ruzzians. I only made it to Yeroskipou.

As we were driving along, their smell and the heat was affecting me. I yelled out to the bus driver to stop the bus. I only just made it out puking my breakfast. The bus driver was waiting for me to re- enter and I said, sorry, I'm staying here. Walkked to the taverna, about 1 km down the road, sat down to have some refreshments, called a taxi and continued my journey.

I'll never forget that.

I have never see a more filthier people. I swear that guy next to be never showered for 2 weeks. Putrid! :x

And that cold stoney look on their faces and beady eyes. There is something not quite right. Can't put my finger on it.


Who takes a bus in Cyprus? And from Paphos???


It was the first time and last time ever let me tell you.

I have a house in Ktima, not far from the police station and Paphos District Courts, and around the corner was the buis terminal which I can get to on foot. Someone, told me I could catch the bus. I was against it and either favoured hiring a car which is my usual tactic, or catch a taxi. I was treated like I was some weirdo for wanting to catch a taxi. I always found Cypriot taxis as dirt cheap and convenient.

Anyway, the bus fare was 15 Euro. When I saw the minibus, I was having second thoughts. Then when I was inside, the dam thing was like a sauna. When we got going, the airconditioning would still not work. It must have been over 40 degrees. And then when I was sitting next to these filthy Russo-Pontians, and smelling their body odour, I lost the plot. I was becomming one grumpy Paphiti and started giving the driver a hard time. My wife would say and she will attest, then when I get into one of my moods it's time to take cover. Then I had it and ORDERED the guy to stop which he did telling the idiot I wanted to get out. I was vomiting quite violently within seconds of leaving the bus.

I went to the Yeroskipou Taverna. Went to bathroom, then sat down there for a while to compose myself, had some refreshing soft drinks and lots of water and some fruit etc etc. Recovered quite quickly in the fresh air.

I then called a taxi. I was relieved. Didn't care how much I was going to pay. Some minutes later, my taxi arrived. A very late model Mercedes. My driver was a Kalamara. An older gentleman clearly from Greece. As it turns out, he was an ELDYK Vet who saw action at Nicosia Airport in 1974. Very pleasant man, who had some very interesting yarns and was as you would expect from a kalamara, quite boisterous and a typical Greek Manga. It was a good ride. On the highway between Limassol and Nicosia, not a km under 150. :D

Cost was 50 Euro. That's how Paphitis does it bitches.

Cheap as chips as far as I was concerned. I don't know if the Kalamara gave me a discount or not - but I found it quite cheap. We did have a real good rapport. Quite a very likable guy as well. Now, I think I even tipped him. My tipsd are minimum 10 Euros, but if I really like you, it's more likely 20 Euros. I really liked my taxi driver, so I think he got a 20. Also, for the fact I have a soft spot for vets.

That's how Paphitis rolls bitches. 8)

I hired a car from Nicosia the next day from memory.

Planning to hire a car in Istanbul next year as well. Plan to drive from Istandbul to Galipoli, get on the ferry, to Canakale, and drive all the way down the Western Coast and then Ferry (without hire car) to SAMOS.

To be totally honest with you, I don't mind Turkey at all. Or the Turkish people. But good lord, I'd rather slit my wrists going anywhere near those Russo-Pontians. :shock:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:30 pm

I’ve just added Ktima to my list of nuke targets.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:35 pm

BTW!

DING DONG BITCHES! :lol:

Paphitis is in da house?

Has Bakhmout capitulated yet bitches? No? Not yet? What taking so long? :lol:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:37 pm

Get Real! wrote:I’ve just added Ktima to my list of nuke targets.

Na ghtimasis ha.

What kind of a name is that for a place.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:39 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
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Paphitis wrote:If Ruzzia use a nuclear weapon, it will be to their detriment. They will be a Pariah for the next 50 years. It can't be compared to Japan at all. The Allies then were only seeking a Japanese surrender to end WW2 and did not want to invade Japan. So this was the only way.


You see Paphitis, you are making excuses to the collective West in their justification for nuking Japan twice, a civilian targets each time no less, because it would save lives of the allied forces had the war continued, and if the aim is to end the war by nuking the opposition, then surely under your own reasoning in using nukes can be justified, then surely Russia using nukes in Ukraine would also end the war and saving thousands of lives from both sides, no?


The west isn't required to justify anything. The response from the west has already been justified and it is just a response to an illegal invasion of a sovereign country and member of the United Nations.

The west has not invaded anyone, or acted illegally.

The collective west sees the invasion of Ukraine as no different to the invasion of Poland by Hitler, and it is an event which will either create dire consequences for the globe. In any event, threats of Nuclear War are completely meaningless. The western military doctrine when dealing with dangerous tyrants like pootin, is that the west makes a stand in Ukraine, to prevent future disasters for Poland, Moldova, Finland, and the Baltics. Ukraine now is the defence line for Europe at large. So now we are in a game of poker. And the collective west and NATO are calling to see Pootin's hand. If worse comes to worse, Russia will be gambling with the existence of Ruzzia at large.

For the last 20 years, the West has given Pootin the benefit of doubt. But now, those days are over.

As for nuking Japan, the choices were clear. Either nuke Japan, and cause Japan to surrender, or invade them, have war for many more years to come, which Japan would have a good chance of winning, but losing even more civilians.

Neither the US, Australia, or Britain would have had the appetite for continued war.


Let me ask you a question. Why did they nuke Japan, and not Germany which was the root of the problem? I 'd bet you don't know. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Ask away. Unlike you, I'm only too happy to answer questions.

There are many reasons. Not least of which Fat Man wasn't ready till late July 1945, a project led by Physicist Oppenheimer from the University of California. Germany had surrendered by 30th of April, 1945. It was already occupied by allied troops.

In addition, Germany was already backs to the wall and losing by that stage prior to their surrender, with their forces in retreat and allied forces closing in from France and from the East (Ruzzians).

There was no need to use a Nuclear Weapon on Germany. It's far too destructive on an enemy already in a state of total collapse, where their defeat was imminent and assured.

Japan on the other hand was in retreat in the Pacific. But there were no allied troops in Japan itself. The Americans were already dictating the war and well in control, but to force a surrender, the allies (US, UK and Australia) were contemplating a costly D Day style landing in Japan. You could imagine the losses there. And I actually believe Japan would have defeated the Allies guaranteed. Japanese do not surrender easily. One thing you can say about the Japanese is that you would prefer to face the NAZI Germans any day than face the Japanese, and in their own country within their own borders, well it would not have been very nice.

I have a lot of time for the Japanese. I do not support or take any delight in having their cities nuked. Despite the fact that they were a WW2 enemy to Australia, and the fact thousands of Australian POWs were killed, tortured and starved by them. Yes animosity. But I respect them as a people and a culture. I've witnessed them as a people to know their strengths. Something I can't bring myself to do with regard to the filthy Ruzzian scum. Yes, Japanese people are superior to Ruzzians. I truly believe this to be true. Cleaner and far more sophisticated at all levels and superior intelligence as well. I respect that a lot.

You can never meet a more thoughtful and composed race of people, rich in culture and tradition.

To cut a long story short, the reason why Japan was nuked during WW2 was to hasten their surrender without necessitating a full scale invasion of Japan. It was deemed far less costly in terms of losses, especially of our own troops.


No that was not the reason. In fact there was no reason to nuke Japan at all, because it was already defeated. It would collapse and surrender any time having lost all it's naval and Air capability, via simple allied naval and air blockade, lack of resources etc. The excuse for the nukes was always to save lives assuming there would be an invasion in Japan. No such invasion was necessary. Try again.


You need to think about this.

Yes, the Americans were actually giving Japan a chance to surrender and end the war - but the Japanese would not surrender and there was nothing the Americans or allies could do to force them to surrender. The allies had no troops on the ground in Japan, and therefore, Japan did not have to surrender and would not surrender.

Unless you got your troops surrounding Tokyo and putting them under siege like the allies did to Berlin, the Japanese were not going to surrender.

As far as the Americans were concerned, they wanted a complete and unconditional surrender from Japan. They achieved that objective by nuking Hirishima, and Nagasaki.

The Americans and allies had defeated japan in the Pacific, but Japan was not under siege, and the Americans only had strike range with B29 bombers only months earlier. japan still had a vast industrial capability, could build ships, and aircraft and their military was still formidable, unlike Germany which was almost completely carpet bombed and decimated.
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