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[Pyrpolizer]

I asked before how many out of it's 7.5 million unemployed, has Ukraine mobilized in this war.
I got no reply so far. Instead all we learned so far is that Russia called 300K reservists.

Well here's some answer. 5.5 million !!?? I would expect about 1 million judging by the Russians complaining of the enemy's numerical superiority at all fronts.

https://t.me/rybar/39363

Translation:

About the upcoming new wave of mobilization in Ukraine

Against the background of the announced partial mobilization in Russia, Ukraine allowed the conscription of students who are still exempt from the need to go to the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

According to presidential adviser Alexei Arestovich, this is how Kyiv can respond to the actions of the Russian Federation. He also added that the country's mobilization reserve now stands at 5.5 million people.

Prior to this, just over a week ago, Ukraine banned male students who study at foreign universities from traveling abroad. Previously, this was allowed on an exceptional basis, but since September 14, the loophole has finally closed.

All this suggests that in the near future Kyiv is preparing a new wave of mobilization both to compensate for the losses of recent months and to maintain a significant numerical superiority over the RF Armed Forces. No matter how many citizens of Ukraine die per month, the mobilization potential still allows local politicians to compensate those who are out of action and throw new reinforcements into the offensive.

And hardly anyone thinks about the price of the issue and future consequences: foreign sponsors of Kyiv openly do not hide their readiness to fight with Russia to the last Ukrainian.

[Maximus]

this is horrendous, I am lost for words for the sheer loss of life and the wider consequences of this war.

[Pyrpolizer]

this is horrendous, I am lost for words for the sheer loss of life and the wider consequences of this war.

Human life doesn't matter to the Ukrainian leadership.
The Russians abandoned most of Kharkiv oblast just to save lives, as they didn't have enough troops to hold it, while they never expected such huge mobilization from the Ukrainians.
They are still throwing hundreds in the remaining part of Kharkiv, walking around in agricultural land as if they are at in their backyard... Hundreds die every day, but they still manage to take more empty land.

Remember the doctrine "we will fight to the last Ukrainian?" Well that's what happening now.
I 've seen an interview with this presidential advisor Alexei Arestovich saying the leadership in Ukraine despises the people. He stressed it repeatedly , and even went further to explain the reasons. I was shocked !!

There is something VERY big going on between the Americans+Nato Vs Russia. The 58 trillion they spent so far is nothing compared to what they expect to get back. Their goal and objective is the destruction of Russia. The Ukrainian leadership is simply their instrument.

[DT.]

A country is under invasion. A sovereign country with recognized borders by all. And to hear Russian sympathizers asking for change because the fight isn’t fair and there’s too many Ukrainians defending makes me concerned about some people sanity here. The country is facing down an invader in its sovereign borders. Till the last fucking Ukrainian if they have to ffs and bravo to them.

[Pyrpolizer]

A country is under invasion. A sovereign country with recognized borders by all. And to hear Russian sympathizers asking for change because the fight isn’t fair and there’s too many Ukrainians defending makes me concerned about some people sanity here. The country is facing down an invader in its sovereign borders. Till the last fucking Ukrainian if they have to ffs and bravo to them.

Ukraine lost it's sovereignty by the minute it violated the agreements that made it a state and by the minute it invited Nato in. Cuba had recognized borders by all too.Yugoslavia as well. Tens of other countries including Cyprus...
Problem with Ukraine is that it won't be to the last Ukrainian. It will be to the last of us.
Bravo to us as well then.

[repulsewarrior]

A country is under invasion. A sovereign country with recognized borders by all. And to hear Russian sympathizers asking for change because the fight isn’t fair and there’s too many Ukrainians defending makes me concerned about some people sanity here. The country is facing down an invader in its sovereign borders. Till the last fucking Ukrainian if they have to ffs and bravo to them.

...well said.

[Londonrake]

Anyway. Should, as you seem to be saying, we end up with Russia using a nuclear weapon, which I think could be entirely possible - the Russian population are already being primed with talk of western nuclear "blackmail" - then Mr Putin will be signing his own redundancy notice and Russia will be a friendless, pariah state for generations.

How come the USA did not become a pariah State after nuking Japan twice?

Wasn’t the justification for nuking was to save lives (American lives) and to end the war?

Can Russia not use the same justification for nuking Ukraine or does such justification is ONLY reserved for the collective West?

Just asking!

More Whataboutism. If you want to discuss that then raise a thread on the subject.

[Londonrake]

Look at the list of countless TRASH a Russian nuclear strike against America, would instantly cleanse:

Junkies, Pushers, Distributors, Prostitutes, Bimbos, Pimps, Pedos, Trannies, Bikies, Karens, Rappers, Crooks, Con artists, Criminals,
Televangelists, Politicians, Zionists, Republicans, Democrats, Militarists, Arms dealers, Preppers, Hawks, Cops, Judges, Lawyers, etc...

Destroy Satan’s lair and 99.99% of the world’s problems would be instantly gone!

Warming up to the “great cleansing” yet? Well Russia is our only hope!

Support #1: RUSSIA!

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Any comments on this?

[Londonrake]

Let’s just explore what consequences Russia would face from the collective West should Russia use tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine as America is warning Russia that there will be consequences.

Will there be more sanctions or will there be a nuclear response against Russia?

Personally, the collective West will not stick their necks out for Ukraine by firing nukes at Russia because there will be a retaliation and which country would suffer the most economically should that happen, Russia getting nuked or the country who had dared to nuke Russia? The answer should be self evident I would imagine, therefore, the nuclear option against Russia for the collective West is out of the question, which gives Russia a free hand to nuke Ukraine should it come to that. There will be other consequences for Russia, but being nuked by the collective West is not one of them, and Zelensky knows it too well, which is why he is in a panic mode.

I agree. Although it seems the policy on response is one of ambiguity.

I can't see how you can consider Zelensky to be in a "panic mode". If it came to the event you describe it would surely be more the case of Putin being so?

My view, FWIW, is that such an event, even if limited, would have disastrous consequences for Russia and Putin in particular. I don't mean nuclear consequences but global perceptions and policies. I can't see how anybody could ally themselves or even adopt a policy of abstention towards the country afterwards. Russia would be even more of a pariah than they are now.

It seems a hard point to put across for some reason but a significant exchange of nuclear weapons between major nations would be a disaster for all of us. Unless you inhabit the world of somebody like GR of course. Apart from the millions of deaths from immediate effects and lingering radiation billions would starve. You would have to be a lunatic to advocate such a thing. The defence rests.

[Londonrake]

Great video showing the suicidal Ukrainian penetration in Kherson.
I kept wondering why the Russians don't just recapture the whole area?
Well, why should they? Isn't it a nice slaughterhouse as long as the Ukrs keep sending free meat ?

That neatly sums up the problem I have with people like you. Deranged.